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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Theory => Topic started by: BillyBob on January 17, 2014, 06:33:03 PM

Title: Sunrise
Post by: BillyBob on January 17, 2014, 06:33:03 PM
How do you people explain how the sun travels in a straight line and does not arc across the sky?
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Tintagel on January 17, 2014, 07:09:39 PM
How do you people explain how the sun travels in a straight line and does not arc across the sky?

Now you're just being ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm_Cn8-DCNc

A straight line, never arcing?  Are you sure about that?
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: BillyBob on January 18, 2014, 08:36:11 AM
You people say that the sun travels in a circle around the earth.  It does not look that way to me. 

The videos you posted are from within the Arctic circle.  The same video could have been made within the Antarctic circle.  How do you explain this? 
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Tintagel on January 18, 2014, 12:46:43 PM
You people say that the sun travels in a circle around the earth.  It does not look that way to me. 

The videos you posted are from within the Arctic circle.  The same video could have been made within the Antarctic circle.  How do you explain this?

No, it travels in a circle above the earth. 

Regarding antarctica, I don't disagree that on a spherical earth this would happen, but no one I've spoken to could verify whether it happens on ours.  How do you know it's true?  Have you been to antarctica and seen this?  I haven't.

Moreover, celestial gears would theoretically allow for a midnight sun in antarctica, too... I've simply never seen evidence that it occurs.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Tau on January 19, 2014, 05:33:30 PM
The Sun only follows a 'straight' path, meaning it goes from 90 East to 270 West and passes through one's local zenith, at the Equator during the Equinox. Otherwise, it always follows an arc.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: BillyBob on January 19, 2014, 08:05:13 PM
Why does it not make a circle over my head? 
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Thork on January 19, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
Why does it not make a circle over my head? 
Because you aren't in the centre of that circle. At the north pole in the summer it does just that.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: BillyBob on January 19, 2014, 08:10:07 PM
I don't live anywhere near the north pole.  However, the sun does rise and set here.  It does not do it in a circle, like flat earth theorists say it does. 
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Thork on January 19, 2014, 08:42:59 PM
I don't live anywhere near the north pole.  However, the sun does rise and set here.  It does not do it in a circle, like flat earth theorists say it does. 
What shape does it make? Then explain how that works on a globe.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: BillyBob on January 19, 2014, 08:53:33 PM
On a globe, the sun rises and sets from East to West.  On a flat earth, it goes in a circle.  How do explain this? 
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Thork on January 19, 2014, 09:11:41 PM
Because on a flat earth it is still travelling from East to West. There is no confliction.

Quote from: https://www.wordnik.com/words/east
East: The cardinal point on the mariner's compass 90° clockwise from due north and directly opposite west.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: BillyBob on January 19, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
East to west is a circle on a flat earth. 
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Thork on January 19, 2014, 09:24:10 PM
Yes. East to West is also a circle on a globe. If it was a straight line it would jut out into space.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: inquisitive on February 11, 2014, 08:33:57 AM
East to west is a circle on a flat earth.
Please provide a map to explain.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Tintagel on February 11, 2014, 01:50:21 PM
East to west is a circle on a flat earth.
Please provide a map to explain.
You don't have to look far, the map is easy to find in our wiki.  Here is one representation:
(http://wiki.tfes.org/images/4/43/Map.png)
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: inquisitive on February 11, 2014, 02:32:17 PM
East to west is a circle on a flat earth.
Please provide a map to explain.
You don't have to look far, the map is easy to find in our wiki.  Here is one representation:
(http://wiki.tfes.org/images/4/43/Map.png)
The distances between Australia and south africa and south america are wrong.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 11, 2014, 04:40:48 PM
The distances between Australia and south africa and south america are wrong.
Nope.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: inquisitive on February 11, 2014, 05:46:10 PM
The distances between Australia and south africa and south america are wrong.
Nope.
How many miles between Perth, Australia and Cape Town?  So you would pass over the south of India.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 11, 2014, 07:12:53 PM
The distances between Australia and south africa and south america are wrong.
Nope.
How many miles between Perth, Australia and Cape Town?  So you would pass over the south of India.
Sorry, could I have that in English?
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: inquisitive on February 11, 2014, 08:27:32 PM
The distances between Australia and south africa and south america are wrong.
Nope.
How many miles between Perth, Australia and Cape Town?  So you would pass over the south of India.
Sorry, could I have that in English?
If the picture above is correct what is the shortest distance between Perth, Australia and Cape Town in miles?  Please show the route.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 11, 2014, 08:28:45 PM
If the picture above is correct what is the shortest distance between Perth, Australia and Cape Town in miles?  Please show the route.
Define "the route".
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: inquisitive on February 11, 2014, 08:30:39 PM
If the picture above is correct what is the shortest distance between Perth, Australia and Cape Town in miles?  Please show the route.
Define "the route".
Which places are passed over.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 11, 2014, 09:21:41 PM
Which places are passed over.
That largely depends on which places you decide to pass over.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Alchemist21 on February 11, 2014, 10:10:44 PM
Why is PP trolling in this thread?
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 11, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
Why is PP trolling in this thread?
I'm not. Inquisitive's question is impossible to answer logically. The path one will take to get from one place to another depends entirely on their decision.

Please refrain from off-topic posting.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Alchemist21 on February 11, 2014, 11:30:23 PM
He asked for someone to show the shortest route from Perth to Cape Town.  To me, that would be the shortest distance, and the places you pass over are what falls on the line from Perth to Cape Town.

So will someone kindly show the route on this monopolar map which minimizes the distance between Perth, Australia and Cape Town, South Africa, and give the what the distance of that route would be as indicated by the map?
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: jroa on February 12, 2014, 12:02:59 AM
I could give you an answer, but how would we ever know if I am correct or not?
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 12, 2014, 12:04:57 AM
He asked for someone to show the shortest route from Perth to Cape Town.  To me, that would be the shortest distance, and the places you pass over are what falls on the line from Perth to Cape Town.
No, he didn't. He asked for the shortest distance and a route. I asked him to specify the route, and am currently awaiting for him to do so.

Please stop attempting to derail this thread.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Alchemist21 on February 12, 2014, 12:32:49 AM
I could give you an answer, but how would we ever know if I am correct or not?

You could show your work.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: jroa on February 12, 2014, 02:30:59 AM
Yes, but that would not prove anything, now would it?
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Scientific Method on February 12, 2014, 02:55:29 AM
If the picture above is correct what is the shortest distance between Perth, Australia and Cape Town in miles?  Please show the route.

Seems pretty straightforward to me. Shortest distance from "A" (Perth, Australia) to "B" (Cape Town, South Africa). On a flat map, the route to achieve this would be a straight line joining these two points.

Stop avoiding the question.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: markjo on February 12, 2014, 04:13:56 AM
If the picture above is correct what is the shortest distance between Perth, Australia and Cape Town in miles?  Please show the route.
Define "the route".
How about defining "the route" as "the path taken to travel the shortest distance from Perth, Australia to Cape Town, South Africa" and not being needlessly pedantic?
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: pilot172 on April 11, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
wow I didn't know the great Australian bite was that flat where des kangaroo island go and im surprised cape York is that flat I might be hit by cyclone ita
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: fappenhosen on April 11, 2014, 04:02:23 PM
If the picture above is correct what is the shortest distance between Perth, Australia and Cape Town in miles?  Please show the route.

You can take any route you like so long as you stay in the blue bits. Post the ships logs when you're done.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: jroa on April 12, 2014, 05:19:34 AM
I am curious to see the ships logs as well.  I suspect he just made it all up. 
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: Rama Set on April 12, 2014, 11:23:33 AM
Nothing like a trolling mod. He never claimed to sail from Perth to Cape Town. Please try and keep this on track. I would feel a great sense of ease.
Title: Re: Sunrise
Post by: BillyBob on April 26, 2014, 05:56:06 AM
Do you people not even understand the Sun rise?  What a bunch of morons.