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Re: Shape of the Earth changes?
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2019, 12:23:12 AM »
The celestial bodies are projections on the atmosphere and don't change size.
Has this projection of celestial bodies on the atmoplane been experimentally verified?  A link to such an experiment would be greatly appreciated.

Light beams have been verified to project onto the atmolayer.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Magnification_of_the_Sun_at_Sunset#Projection_of_Lasers

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Re: Shape of the Earth changes?
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2019, 01:30:41 AM »
The celestial bodies are projections on the atmosphere and don't change size.
Has this projection of celestial bodies on the atmoplane been experimentally verified?  A link to such an experiment would be greatly appreciated.

Light beams have been verified to project onto the atmolayer.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Magnification_of_the_Sun_at_Sunset#Projection_of_Lasers
The laser beams projecting those guide stars are clearly visible.  No such beams are seen when observing the celestial bodies.
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Re: Shape of the Earth changes?
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2019, 01:52:36 AM »
The celestial bodies are projections on the atmosphere and don't change size.
Has this projection of celestial bodies on the atmoplane been experimentally verified?  A link to such an experiment would be greatly appreciated.

Light beams have been verified to project onto the atmolayer.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Magnification_of_the_Sun_at_Sunset#Projection_of_Lasers

Are the celestial bodies laser beams pointing down on to the atmolayer?

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Re: Shape of the Earth changes?
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2019, 10:48:30 AM »
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Light beams have been verified to project onto the atmolayer.


You can't just use 'evidence' from your own FW Wiki to claim that qualifies as verification.  Independent sources needed. 


The image of a laserbeam being emitted upwards from a telescope is how astronomers create an 'artifical star' to test for atmospheric turbulence.  It has nothing to do with the natural night time stars.  using the data from the artificial star astronomers can then program the active optics system to effectively shape the mirror so that it counteracts the turbulence.

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The celestial bodies are projections on the atmosphere and don't change size.

Sorry Tom I have never heard anything quite so absurd. Do you really believe that?

The atmosphere starts off at sea level and the mesosphere eventually peters off at an altitude of about 100km where the vacuum of space takes over.
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Re: Shape of the Earth changes?
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2019, 11:54:16 AM »
The celestial bodies are projections on the atmosphere and don't change size.
Some do. The planets do because as they orbit and we do the distance between us and them changes which means their apparent size does vary:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_diameter

Note again that there's a difference between what we can perceive and what we can measure...
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Re: Shape of the Earth changes?
« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2019, 12:04:21 PM »
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Some do. The planets do because as they orbit and we do the distance between us and them changes which means their apparent size does vary:

Absolutely. Venus is possibly the best example here with its apparent size varying according to the orbital arrangement between itself and Earth.

http://astrobiker.de/astronomie/galerie/venusphasen.jpg