Quote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 09:42:24 PMQuote from: Irushwithscvs on December 01, 2013, 09:35:00 PMQuote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 09:31:56 PMThe necessity of His own maximally great nature. Oh, I see, when asked direct questions you make shit up.No, I am making a logical inference about God's nature from the modal ontological argument for God's existence. Look up Alvin Plantinga if you want to understand how that translates to my thinking about God.Quote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 09:31:56 PMIt is greater to exist in an abstract sense than to not exist at all.Simply having the idea of something existing doesn't correlate to it actually existing. I can imagine myself with the ability to shoot fire from my hands, but I don't actually have that ability, nor does any form of my persona exist anywhere in reality that has that ability.Well obviously you couldn't think that and have it happen, but a soul can produce effects upon the body of the universe if it is contingent upon an abstract realm of it. Wiki mind-body dualism.Souls don't exist.
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on December 01, 2013, 09:35:00 PMQuote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 09:31:56 PMThe necessity of His own maximally great nature. Oh, I see, when asked direct questions you make shit up.No, I am making a logical inference about God's nature from the modal ontological argument for God's existence. Look up Alvin Plantinga if you want to understand how that translates to my thinking about God.Quote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 09:31:56 PMIt is greater to exist in an abstract sense than to not exist at all.Simply having the idea of something existing doesn't correlate to it actually existing. I can imagine myself with the ability to shoot fire from my hands, but I don't actually have that ability, nor does any form of my persona exist anywhere in reality that has that ability.Well obviously you couldn't think that and have it happen, but a soul can produce effects upon the body of the universe if it is contingent upon an abstract realm of it. Wiki mind-body dualism.
Quote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 09:31:56 PMThe necessity of His own maximally great nature. Oh, I see, when asked direct questions you make shit up.No, I am making a logical inference about God's nature from the modal ontological argument for God's existence. Look up Alvin Plantinga if you want to understand how that translates to my thinking about God.Quote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 09:31:56 PMIt is greater to exist in an abstract sense than to not exist at all.Simply having the idea of something existing doesn't correlate to it actually existing. I can imagine myself with the ability to shoot fire from my hands, but I don't actually have that ability, nor does any form of my persona exist anywhere in reality that has that ability.
The necessity of His own maximally great nature.
It is greater to exist in an abstract sense than to not exist at all.
There is scientific proof that they do exist and influence what we do. Brain scans from people asked to perform a task do not show a change in their brain activity when they do the task, such a registration of how far they would have to move their body to perform such a task. But obviously we do register such things. This suggests the existence of an immaterial thing that registers the details of a task and then uses our nervous system to perform it.
Quote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 10:22:44 PMThere is scientific proof that they do exist and influence what we do. Brain scans from people asked to perform a task do not show a change in their brain activity when they do the task, such a registration of how far they would have to move their body to perform such a task. But obviously we do register such things. This suggests the existence of an immaterial thing that registers the details of a task and then uses our nervous system to perform it.I urge you to show me this proof.
Anyway, I said "scientific proof"
Quote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 10:30:51 PMYou're a gullible one, eh? Anyway, I said "scientific proof" not "whatever you can pull out of your ass."
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on December 01, 2013, 10:34:46 PMAnyway, I said "scientific proof"No you didn't.
You can't provide scientific "proof". Science does not "prove" anything. It assigns probability to certain events or notions about events. "Proofs" exist only in mathematics. I think my youtube vid provides evidence for the soul. The soul exists, it can be shown within a reasonable doubt to influence our behaviour.
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on December 01, 2013, 10:24:57 PMQuote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 01, 2013, 10:22:44 PMThere is scientific proof that they do exist and influence what we do. Brain scans from people asked to perform a task do not show a change in their brain activity when they do the task, such a registration of how far they would have to move their body to perform such a task. But obviously we do register such things. This suggests the existence of an immaterial thing that registers the details of a task and then uses our nervous system to perform it.I urge you to show me this proof.
You don't think I'm going to post here sober, do you?
I have embraced my Benny Franko side. I'm sleazy.
There are cigarettes in joints. You don't smoke it by itself.
I understand this may be nit-picky, but "Atheist" isn't a religion. It's the lack of a religion, if anything.
I don't even care to find out what you're doing wrong, but I'm sure you're doing something wrong.
What's the difference between Deist and Theist?
Never mind, I just found out. That's really splitting hairs there (especially imo since I'm somewhat a mix of the two). :S
You can't provide scientific "proof".
Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on December 02, 2013, 07:46:54 AMI understand this may be nit-picky, but "Atheist" isn't a religion. It's the lack of a religion, if anything.A religion is a set of beliefs about reality. You don't have to believe in God to be religious. I think atheism entails a particular set of beliefs about reality and it therefore can be defined as a religion.
Quote from: RoundEarthisRound on December 02, 2013, 03:46:30 PMQuote from: Benjamin Franklin on December 02, 2013, 07:46:54 AMI understand this may be nit-picky, but "Atheist" isn't a religion. It's the lack of a religion, if anything.A religion is a set of beliefs about reality. You don't have to believe in God to be religious. I think atheism entails a particular set of beliefs about reality and it therefore can be defined as a religion.Religions have holy texts, and a system of belief. Atheism has none of that, it's just the lack of belief in a God.