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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2022, 06:26:46 PM »
If you've moved the goalposts so far from the OP that I've now no idea what you are talking about, that's you running away, not me.
No. I asked you a direct question that you are refusing to answer.
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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2022, 06:29:08 PM »
Fun fact: I don't live in America. Sooooo not realistic for me. :P
And while the hormone therapy may only take 1-2 years, you still need to diagnose said person and develop a plan for transition. And pay for it.


But, that's now how the US Collegiate NCAA interprets time-lines for transitioning.

So I guess you would just tell your biologically male daughter "great job" and your biologically female daughter "oh well"?

Truthfully?  I'd tell my trans daughter not to compete as its going to cause issues for all trans folks.  Especially since records and such are meaningless in the grand scheme of life.  Unless you're a pro-swimmer after college.




He assumes every child is loved by their parents and have a good understanding of sexuality. 
The vast majority of children are loved by their parents. It's a thing nature does to stop you abandoning them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin
And yet child abuse is a thing...
As for a good understanding of sexuality:  maybe because they had sex ed?  Like, are pimples good or bad?  When can I get a girl pregnant?  Can you get pregnant from oral sex?
But as my little pie chart shows ... abuse from teachers is way more common. They are the number one perpetrators.
Do you know who has the most contact with children?  Teachers.  So your data is basically saying "the group who spends the most time with the most children is also the group that has the most abusers.
Also, i'd love to see how many of those abusers were health teachers and not, say... Any ither kind.  Because it seems to be you're trying to say that teachers who teach sex ed are somehow more likely to abuse children vs other types of teachers.  Which is odd, all things considered.  Especially since sex ed is like... A week of class.

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Rabbits are not humans and don't have complex societies.  They also have mating seasons, while humans do not.  They also are mature ,sexually, after 6 months of living.  And their behavior is hormone driven.  Imagine if people were purely hornome driven.  It would be like teenagers but without any filters.
Imagine thinking that humans are different to all other creatures ... but only after the 1960s at which point sex education needed to be delivered.
Imagine thinking a problem didn't exist until someone tried to solve it.



So said parent goes 'Ask your teacher'.
Then kids end up using google and get nothing but porn sites.  Because that'll be healthy....
I live in a country where VPNs cost subscription money, ISPs block porn sites, browsers block porn sites, mobile phones block porn sites and search engines block porn sites. Children don't watch as much porn as your favourite tabloid newspaper might suggest.
I do not live in a country like that. USA isn't like that. But my point wasn't that they'd go looking for porn, my point was that porn would be what they found most when searching for answers. 
Then lobby your government for some parental controls on the internet instead of lobbying them to mandate that teachers talk to your kids about gay sex.  ::)
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Why?  I'm ok with them talking about gay sex.  As mentioned previously.  Dunno how norwegian sex ed is, tho.

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And unless kids today have become far more wholesome.... Porn was big when I was a teenager.  Clearly your teen days were more... Tame.
Porn in my teens was finding a soggy torn up magazine in the woods and trying to put the pieces back together to reveal a fat middle aged woman smothered in cream.

I was a teenager from 1991-1997. No one was on the internet back then. I shudder to think how long it would take to download a 240p 5 min video on AOL dial up.
I was a teenager from 1996-2002.  I was on the internet well before then and let me tell you... There was porn.  I know, I've seen it.  I remember it.  Tho I usually read sex stories. 

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So ban teachers, got it.
Almost, but you are getting there. Just ban teachers from teaching children about homosexuality. They can still teach them English, Maths and Science. You know, subjects that might help them get a job one day. The actual reason we send children to school in the first place. We don't send them to talk to middle aged men about being gay.
Nor should we ask a teacher to not help a student if they ask for advice.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2022, 09:10:16 PM »
This is what I fear, yes. Been going on for decades. I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Oh cool. So you're not the only bigot and therefore you're right.
Is that what you're going with?

Absolute horseshit.
Wow. In two words you dismiss the lived experience of gay people and reams of nature/nurture scientific study. Bravo.
And Stephen Fry wasn't joking. I mean, obviously he expressed what he wanted to say in his typical amusing fashion, but his point was that for as long as he was aware of such things, he knew what his sexuality was. Whether it's something you're born with or something which you develop is debatable, but the point is no-one "chooses" to be gay. Unless you can tell me you chose to be heterosexual, which is obviously not the case.

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If you have a new age parent that likes to dress you as a drag queen so you can express yourself at the age of 4 ... you might well turn out gay.
That's what happened to your brother, is it? How come you managed to escape this awful fate?

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Being gay sucks.
In large part because of people like you. Thankfully people like you aren't so common these days, so it doesn't suck as much as it used to. It's a shame you are continuing to be part of the problem. As for same sex couples having children - either through adoption or, surrogacy or sperm donor, my gut feeling is that a child is best raised by a mother and father but, actually, the literature doesn't really bear that out
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/
Obviously you'll dismiss that because it doesn't back up your bigotry, but I don't think I can help you with that.

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Why?

Because it is a thing. Part of a child's education should be to teach them about the reality of the world around them. And now gay marriage is legal and gay adoption is legal - despite bigots like you - it will be increasingly common for children to encounter other children with two parents the same sex. Thankfully children are far more accepting of this sort of stuff than people like you. And it's perfectly possible to teach them about stuff like this in an age appropriate way without mentioning anal sex or strap-ons
Teaching them about stuff like this is not "encouraging" them to be gay, but it might help them to make sense of their feelings when they get to an age where they start thinking about stuff like that. I'd suggest that's a good thing, given the way it worked out for older generations of gay people who had to hide away - again, because of people like you.

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You mean the previous generations that went on to create great civilisations over thousands of years?
Bishopian cherry picking. Yes, previous generations did lots of great things. They did slavery and the holocaust too.
And they forced people like Alan Turing, one of the geniuses who contributed to some of the stuff you laud, to undergo chemical castration when he was convicted for having relations with another man. Just because previous generations did a lot of good stuff doesn't mean it was all good and we can't move on and evolve as a society to do better. If you want to get left behind then that's up to you, but thankfully people like you will literally die out soon.

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You are one of those people that thinks everyone who lived in the past was stupid.
Says the man who reckons* the earth is flat and all the giants of science were dum-dums
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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2022, 09:53:03 PM »
I wonder if Thork’s gay acquaintances, if they exist, which I’m pretty sure they don’t,
My brother is gay.

Who turned your brother gay?

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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2022, 10:50:04 AM »
I wonder if Thork’s gay acquaintances, if they exist, which I’m pretty sure they don’t,
My brother is gay.

Who turned your brother gay?
I'm going to guess that my father dying and my going to uni left him with just his sister and mother as role models and it turned him a bit fruity. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2022, 12:53:46 PM »
I wonder if Thork’s gay acquaintances, if they exist, which I’m pretty sure they don’t,
My brother is gay.

Who turned your brother gay?
I'm going to guess that my father dying and my going to uni left him with just his sister and mother as role models and it turned him a bit fruity. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lol. Have you tried asking him? 
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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2022, 12:56:03 PM »
Lol. Have you tried asking him?
I'll take "no" for $100, Alex.
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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2022, 03:26:11 PM »
By Thork’s logic in this thread, his brother probably ‘turned gay’ because a teacher told him gays existed, after which there was no turning back

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« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2022, 08:46:27 PM »
I wonder if Thork’s gay acquaintances, if they exist, which I’m pretty sure they don’t,
My brother is gay.

Who turned your brother gay?
I'm going to guess that my father dying and my going to uni left him with just his sister and mother as role models and it turned him a bit fruity. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, I suppose if, according to you, being gay is so horrible and one is simply turned gay, why doesn't he just turn to hetero? Seems like a simple solution.

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« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2022, 05:55:39 AM »
If prepubescent children's sexual orientation or general sexuality can be shaped so easily by external factors, then I question why we even have LGBT people at all, let alone in their current numbers. For all the reactionary grumbling about a "gay agenda" whenever something LGBT-related appears in the news, the fact is that Western society is overwhelmingly heteronormative. From the moment that kids can see and understand what's happening around them, they are bombarded with a "straight agenda." Unless they're being raised in a weird gay cloister or something, almost all the couples they read about, see on TV, or know or encounter in real life are almost all going to be a man and a woman. Does anyone really think that a kid could just tune all that out as part of the gay brainwashing from their parents or teacher or whatever?
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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #70 on: January 25, 2022, 04:10:44 PM »
The Republican idea that homosexuality is a choice says that it is a choice for Republicans.
They could all turn gay at any moment.
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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2022, 12:51:09 AM »
I guess Florida hadn’t filled up that dumb shaped hole in their heart:

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-bill-doctors-decline-service/38890098?fbclid=IwAR2Ab9VgHtfyOuBIFbbN5c-cL2KqS4jemL2xcb5_5sIegw4-9BJfIsnqhJ8#

This is such an unbelievably stupid bill no matter your political leanings.
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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2022, 01:55:09 AM »
I guess Florida hadn’t filled up that dumb shaped hole in their heart:

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-bill-doctors-decline-service/38890098?fbclid=IwAR2Ab9VgHtfyOuBIFbbN5c-cL2KqS4jemL2xcb5_5sIegw4-9BJfIsnqhJ8#

This is such an unbelievably stupid bill no matter your political leanings.

 ::)

Yeah, here's over 10,000 liberals cheering on a hospital for refusing a heart transplant for an unvaccinated man.

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« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2022, 02:07:39 AM »
I guess Florida hadn’t filled up that dumb shaped hole in their heart:

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-bill-doctors-decline-service/38890098?fbclid=IwAR2Ab9VgHtfyOuBIFbbN5c-cL2KqS4jemL2xcb5_5sIegw4-9BJfIsnqhJ8#

This is such an unbelievably stupid bill no matter your political leanings.

 ::)

Yeah, here's over 10,000 liberals cheering on a hospital for refusing a heart transplant for an unvaccinated man.

You actually tallied up the leaning of every comment? Wow. Serious dedication in that hate boner.

Anyway, what the fuck does this have to do with what I posted? Refusing transplants to unvaccinated people is normal since they have to take immunosuppressants and they want the organ to go to person who will survive.

Now go ahead with your gotcha post, troll.



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Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2022, 02:11:39 AM »
Anyway, what the fuck does this have to do with what I posted? Refusing transplants to unvaccinated people is normal since they have to take immunosuppressants and they want the organ to go to person who will survive.

So you want doctors to favor transplants based on what they think as increased organ recipient survivability, but you don't want them to favor what they think are babies for increased survivability.

How incredibly hypocritical and flawed.

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« Reply #75 on: January 27, 2022, 02:18:06 AM »
Anyway, what the fuck does this have to do with what I posted? Refusing transplants to unvaccinated people is normal since they have to take immunosuppressants and they want the organ to go to person who will survive.

So you want doctors to favor transplants based on what they think as increased organ recipient survivability, but you don't want them to favor what they think are babies for increased survivability.

How incredibly hypocritical and flawed.

I’m sure someone will translate this in to English.

What I don’t want is a doctor not to treat someone based on a non-medical issue.
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« Reply #76 on: January 27, 2022, 02:24:17 AM »
So you want doctors to favor transplants based on what they think as increased organ recipient survivability

They already do, and have done for many years. There's nothing in this story to even raise an eyebrow at. Of course refusing to be vaccinated would disqualify you from receiving an organ transplant, along with plenty of other behaviors and practices that are seen by the medical community as destructive or dangerously unhealthy.
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« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2022, 02:26:19 AM »
If doctors can refuse service because of what they think is a chance at increased survability, then they can refuse service to provide abortion pills for increased survivability of what they think as a baby.

Please explain why you are not an utter hypocrite for thinking otherwise. You are picking and choosing which doctor can choose what services he wants to ethically provide.

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« Reply #78 on: January 27, 2022, 02:31:07 AM »
If doctors can refuse service because of what they think is a chance at increased survability, then they can refuse service to provide abortion pills for increased survivability of what they think as a baby.

Please explain why you are not an utter hypocrite for thinking otherwise. You are picking and choosing which doctor can choose what services he wants to ethically provide.

Nice strawman. You brought up abortion, no one else.
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« Reply #79 on: January 27, 2022, 02:41:33 AM »
If doctors can refuse service because of what they think is a chance at increased survability, then they can refuse service to provide abortion pills for increased survivability of what they think as a baby.

Please explain why you are not an utter hypocrite for thinking otherwise. You are picking and choosing which doctor can choose what services he wants to ethically provide.

Nice strawman. You brought up abortion, no one else.

The article you linked says that the bill is advocating for doctors to choose to provide service based on their conscience:

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But what about their conscience?

"Another way that conscience has been defined is that inner voice that someone uses to distinguish between right and wrong," Republican Florida House Rep. John Snyder said.

You say this is wrong. So you need to defend that.

Why shouldn't they be able to decline providing abortion pills if they can decline to provide heart transplants for the unvaccinated?

Why should doctors be forced to provide services to do something they think is unethical?