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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 16, 2017, 07:41:13 PM »
The next episode just leaked. It was good overall, and without spoiling anything, it confirms one of the more infamous leaks from last year. The biggest problem is Arya. Her stupid grudge against Sansa makes no sense, and neither does her continued creepy, threatening behavior.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: August 16, 2017, 06:50:50 PM »



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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 16, 2017, 06:40:14 PM »
Well, it's not unusual to hesitate when it comes to condemning entire groups based on the actions of one person. For some reason, the left has unequivocally agreed that in this case it's perfectly fine, yet I didn't see anyone in the MSM lambast Obama for failing to condemn BLM for Dallas shootings.

Well, yeah, people don't really equivocate BLM and Nazis.

That's fine, but Trump didn't condemn just nazis, nor was he expected to, because 1) not everyone in the protest were nazis, and 2) the driver of the car very likely wasn't one. Trump was expected to condemn essentially all of alt-right, based on a lone actor whose affiliations are unknown, and some fisticuffs from people whose affiliations were also unknown.

Call them whatever you want. #NotAllAlt-Right is a bizarre hill to die on, and yes, people expected the President of the United States to condemn them and their bullshit ideology. And so far, the available evidence suggests that James Fields was most likely one of them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 16, 2017, 05:47:39 PM »
Well, it's not unusual to hesitate when it comes to condemning entire groups based on the actions of one person. For some reason, the left has unequivocally agreed that in this case it's perfectly fine, yet I didn't see anyone in the MSM lambast Obama for failing to condemn BLM for Dallas shootings.

Well, yeah, people don't really equivocate BLM and Nazis.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 16, 2017, 03:06:24 PM »
I can imagine quite a few legitimate reasons for why Trump didn't want to address nazis et al. right away (other than pandering). One of them being that the nazi boogeyman is massively overblown by left-leaning media. How many actual nazis or white nationalists do you think there were in that protest? Sure, there were some I'd imagine, but certainly not all of them. And those some likely weren't involved in the violence at all.

Condemning hateful ideologies in general is fine and dandy, but let's not blame people for something they probably didn't do. Let's just condemn all violence in one statement and the ideologies in another, which is what happened.

Nice rationalization, but we both know that Trump is utterly incapable of this level of restraint and nuance. If it had been a Muslim who did this, an illegal immigrant, or a leftist, the self-congratulatory shitposts would be flying thick and fast from Trump, as we've seen multiple times in the past. But now suddenly Trump's thoughtful, patient side emerges? Bullshit.

So you would agree that if this weren't Trump we're talking about, his statements would be fine?

I might be more willing to believe that it was a sincere plea for a measured response if it was coming from anybody but Trump, but I highly doubt that any other politician would hesitate to condemn such an unsavory group, in large part because no other politician is that reliant on racists making up a significant part of their base. All I'm saying is that it stands out as being especially out of character for Trump, given everything that we know about his temperament and usual responses to attacks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 15, 2017, 11:02:09 PM »
I can imagine quite a few legitimate reasons for why Trump didn't want to address nazis et al. right away (other than pandering). One of them being that the nazi boogeyman is massively overblown by left-leaning media. How many actual nazis or white nationalists do you think there were in that protest? Sure, there were some I'd imagine, but certainly not all of them. And those some likely weren't involved in the violence at all.

Condemning hateful ideologies in general is fine and dandy, but let's not blame people for something they probably didn't do. Let's just condemn all violence in one statement and the ideologies in another, which is what happened.

Nice rationalization, but we both know that Trump is utterly incapable of this level of restraint and nuance. If it had been a Muslim who did this, an illegal immigrant, or a leftist, the self-congratulatory shitposts would be flying thick and fast from Trump, as we've seen multiple times in the past. But now suddenly Trump's thoughtful, patient side emerges? Bullshit.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 15, 2017, 03:48:53 AM »
Edit: also something really bugs me about the whole half-dragon thing of the Targaryen ever explained? How is it that they're half-dragon? I'm betting the Lord of Light gave them this ability somehow, otherwise we have to assume the biological route, which is, uhh, well it's better than the incest I guess.

lore lore lore

They're not literally half-dragon. The ruling families of Valyria had a sort of intuitive magic that allowed them to communicate with and control dragons, which the Targaryens have managed to preserve in their bloodline through hundreds of years of inbreeding. The same magic is what gave Dany her invulnerability to fire. Also, R'hllor, the Lord of Light, doesn't have any real connection to Valyria, the Targaryens, or dragons beyond the shared use of fire.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 15, 2017, 03:31:00 AM »
The only place the Republicans and Trump have been supporting the KKK/Naizis are in the imaginations of Antifa and all who agree with them.

And judging by how enthusiastically they've embraced Trump, also in the imaginations of said KKK/Nazis/racists.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 13, 2017, 01:37:54 PM »
Of course Trump won't specifically blame racists for the ugly scene they created and the crime one of them committed. They're a key part of his base, and so he can't afford to isolate them.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: August 11, 2017, 04:41:34 AM »
I also meant to comment on the news that the Flash movie will be an adaptation of Flashpoint. It seems like a really weird choice to turn his first solo movie into what'll essentially be another event movie. Some people have suggested that WB might use the time-travel/alternate-universe shenanigans involved as a way to retcon out the poorly-received elements of the DCEU, and/or possibly replace Batfleck with a younger actor with less A-list pull. But really, though, we all know that this is just going to be a grimdark Batman movie in disguise, starring Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Lauren Cohan as the alt-Batman and alt-Joker, respectively. The Flash himself might occupy the same role that Wolverine did in DoFP, but the movie won't truly be about him.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: August 09, 2017, 06:43:54 PM »
It might be argued that, as the majority religion in the US, Christianity can afford to take it, whereas a minority faith who regularly receive persecution and abuse for their belief could probably be spared Dawkins' increasingly unhinged babblings.

It's because Christians won't blow you up for criticizing their religion. Muslims will.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 09, 2017, 04:37:04 PM »
Also Arya isn't a little girl anymore and she has been taught how to fight by some of the best in the world

I suppose I'll have to let this go. I just wish that last season they had shown Arya at least holding her own against the Waif in their sparring sessions, rather than it being a one-sided beatdown every time until the climax. I understand what the intention was, but I feel it was very poorly portrayed by the show.

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and this is a fantasy story, what a weird thing to nitpick.

"not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls"

Also, while I like the idea of Bran being more fatalistic and detached, they went a bit overboard turning him that autistic.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 09, 2017, 04:18:05 AM »
>tfw nobody is talking about this season

I started to write a thing complaining about Arya's skills again, and then the ending happened and holy shit.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 09, 2017, 12:06:06 AM »
Trump has now managed to get himself into a pissing contest with North Korea:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/08/politics/north-korea-missile-ready-nuclear-weapons/index.html


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: August 08, 2017, 05:35:39 PM »
As a representative of the hard-core-left, I can say that I really don't care, Dawkins hasn't been relevant in years and private radio stations aren't obliged to give anyone a platform.

I think you may have misunderstood his point. Boodidlie seems to have been talking about Islam being the one whom "the hard-core-left defends and wraps its arms around," as indicated by criticism of that religion leading to canceled platforms while criticism of Christianity does not. That being said, though, this doesn't come entirely down to liberal outrage somehow being more influential than conservative outrage. A major reason why the media is hesitant to say or do anything that might even be seen as critical of Islam is their fear of being attacked by angry Muslims.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 03, 2017, 03:11:54 AM »
Why do you want Trump's Twitter not to be treated seriously?
The exact reason for this is a bit difficult to explain, because it's a mix of gut feeling and unsubstantiated thoughts and actual research. Take this post with a grain of salt. Oh, and apologies in advance if I make no fucking sense.

Twitter has been my research area for just under a year now, and one of the most important early observations I've made about it is that it changes how you express your views (this is hardly a breakthrough; there is general consensus that this does happen). They become shallower and more binary. It also hugely encourages homophily and echo chambers. It's simply not a good means of establishing a person's thoughts. So, by assuming that Trump's Twitter is always an accurate representation of his thoughts, we are effectively creating a radicalised Trump. I worry that, to an extent, that narrative then turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone, dissenters and supporters, expects Trump to be more radical than Trump really is, so he pushes himself to be more radical.

But also, he somehow manages to redirect media attention to what is effectively shitposting, and not even particularly good shitposting. Whenever he needs attention diverted for something, he just drops a big ol' fart on Twitter and the media become preoccupied for a week. I'm fine(-ish) with taking some of Trump's tweets seriously - I would say that some of his tweets are quite clearly shorthand announcements of policy and such; but I'm strongly opposed to the current frenzied state of affairs in which everything he says on Twitter is of utmost importance.

Fake news!


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 30, 2017, 12:37:21 PM »
http://fortune.com/2017/07/14/trump-blocked-me-on-twitter-and-its-costing-me-my-career/

It's almost as if building your life around someone's Twitter profile and forcing the narrative that it should be considered "official statements" has the potential to backfire.

It's not like the White House has discouraged such a narrative:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/trump-tweets-official-statements/index.html

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 29, 2017, 04:36:40 PM »
It's fake news!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 28, 2017, 03:29:27 PM »
It's par for the course for Trump to hire the absolute worst kind of person for a particular job in his administration. One wonders how he ever managed to stay in business as a mogul.

Oh yeah, by constantly declaring bankruptcy and stiffing anyone gullible enough to do a job for him. I forgot.

That, and savvy use of the media to maintain his celebrity and larger-than-life persona.

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