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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 06, 2022, 11:38:27 AM »

One wonders why a 10-year old girl had to travel to Indiana from Ohio to have an abortion, if Indiana is the first state to ban abortion after Roe v Wade...

Segue to more defense of the obvious media spin...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 05, 2022, 10:27:04 AM »
You clearly do.  You said you think they're undersampling low density areas.  So just want to know what you consider to be accurate sampling.
I wrote no such thing.

To me, an adequate sampling would be none at all.

Polls, and the reports thereof, are an example of "tail wagging the dog," thus falling within the realm of unnatural events.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 04, 2022, 07:31:34 PM »
"Mr Biden said the result showed "the majority of Americans agree that women should have access to abortion". - Evidently, the BBC thinks like Biden (for shame), that Kansans represent all of citizens of the US.
Doesn’t basically every poll show that Americans are largely pro choice?
Basically, every poll is taken from areas where the population is most dense.

In fairness, he's not entirely wromg.
Random sampling means there is a higher chance of getting someone from a high dense area vs a low one.  Tho you can adjust polls so they do random sampling of target regions to minimize that problem.  But only so many people you should poll per area and if the area has like 1,000 people, well... No need to poll more than one or two.
But a city with a few million?  Need to poll a several hundred.

I’m not sure Lackey’s point is fair because he is asserting that polls over sample people living in cities without any evidence.
Polls cannot help but oversample populations with higher population density.

Just curious, what sample should they take?
Like lets say a county has 9,000 people.  What sample of them, of a state with a population of 3 million, should be taken to be fairly sampled?
I don't care what samples they take.

I am fairly convinced you have the same feeling.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 04, 2022, 07:29:56 AM »
Basically, every poll is taken from areas where the population is most dense.
That’s a yes, isn’t it?

The areas where the population is less dense are often the areas where the population is most dense…
It seems double speak has struck again?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 04, 2022, 07:27:47 AM »
"Mr Biden said the result showed "the majority of Americans agree that women should have access to abortion". - Evidently, the BBC thinks like Biden (for shame), that Kansans represent all of citizens of the US.
Doesn’t basically every poll show that Americans are largely pro choice?
Basically, every poll is taken from areas where the population is most dense.

In fairness, he's not entirely wromg.
Random sampling means there is a higher chance of getting someone from a high dense area vs a low one.  Tho you can adjust polls so they do random sampling of target regions to minimize that problem.  But only so many people you should poll per area and if the area has like 1,000 people, well... No need to poll more than one or two.
But a city with a few million?  Need to poll a several hundred.

I’m not sure Lackey’s point is fair because he is asserting that polls over sample people living in cities without any evidence.
Polls cannot help but oversample populations with higher population density.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 04, 2022, 07:24:46 AM »
"Mr Biden said the result showed "the majority of Americans agree that women should have access to abortion". - Evidently, the BBC thinks like Biden (for shame), that Kansans represent all of citizens of the US.
Doesn’t basically every poll show that Americans are largely pro choice?
Basically, every poll is taken from areas where the population is most dense.

I don't think that is entirely true. From Pew:

Most of our U.S. surveys are conducted on the American Trends Panel (ATP), the Center’s national survey panel of over 10,000 randomly selected U.S. adults. ATP participants are recruited offline using random sampling from the U.S. Postal Service’s residential address file. Respondents complete the surveys online using smartphones, tablets or desktop devices. We provide tablets and data plans to adults without home internet.

Our surveys are representative of the entire adult population of the United States and accurately account for the full population’s diversity by age, gender, race and ethnicity, region, and socioeconomic factors such as education levels, household income and employment status.
Congratulations on affirming my use of the word, "basically."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 03, 2022, 07:14:59 PM »
"Mr Biden said the result showed "the majority of Americans agree that women should have access to abortion". - Evidently, the BBC thinks like Biden (for shame), that Kansans represent all of citizens of the US.
Doesn’t basically every poll show that Americans are largely pro choice?
Basically, every poll is taken from areas where the population is most dense.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 03, 2022, 03:05:57 PM »
Obviously Kansas doesn't represent America.  It's much worse than that.  Kansas represents the part of America that would theoretically be all for repealing anything that would keep abortion legal.
Would you care to elucidate?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: August 03, 2022, 10:21:58 AM »
Yes! More baby murder!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62402625
The BBC has a definite problem with maintaining syllogism throughout this article.

"For Democrats and pro-choice groups, this is a sign that Americans are deeply unhappy with abortion rights being overturned - and see the Supreme Court's decision as out of step with the public."

It certainly is a sign that Kansans tend to believe the women in that state should be able to kill babies. And the Supreme Court decision put the question back into the hands of the public where it belonged, so that is certainly "in step," with the public.

"Mr Biden said the result showed "the majority of Americans agree that women should have access to abortion". - Evidently, the BBC thinks like Biden (for shame), that Kansans represent all of citizens of the US.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 01, 2022, 05:37:24 PM »
There is a very small uptick in deaths from heart disease during the pandemic both from those with or having had covid being weaker and less able to survive a heart attack and from people being reluctant to go to the hospital or clinic when experiencing symptoms due to fears of contracting covid.
How about being plain old denied the opportunity to go to the hospital due to the unnecessary lockdowns and restrictions.
How has anyone been denied the opportunity to go to the hospital in the US due to the response to the pandemic?
During the lockdowns and restrictions, many clinics, medical centers, and hospitals were closed to people needing regular visits to such places for many different types of ailments.

Both my sister and my brother-in-law were denied such visits during the near entirety of 2020.
It doesn't sound like these were visits to the ER in the sense of "I think I might be having a heart attack", but something else.  Certainly many elective procedures were postponed.
It sounds like an overall aging population was denied normally routine follow-up visits that could have prevented further deaths.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 01, 2022, 03:03:04 PM »
I didn't have any adverse side effects.

...

Simply put: there's no evidence to this women even works at a doctor's office, much less is sick.

There is also no evidence from you about your experience with the vaccine. Pro-vaxxers admit to acting dishonestly to push their agenda.



True.
So my advice is to trust nothing online.  Not even things you support.
Why would you bother to offer advice online if no one is to trust it?
Why indeed?
Think about it.  Use your brain.
Cementing the concept no one is to trust you, especially?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 01, 2022, 02:03:04 PM »
I didn't have any adverse side effects.

...

Simply put: there's no evidence to this women even works at a doctor's office, much less is sick.

There is also no evidence from you about your experience with the vaccine. Pro-vaxxers admit to acting dishonestly to push their agenda.



True.
So my advice is to trust nothing online.  Not even things you support.
Why would you bother to offer advice online if no one is to trust it?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 01, 2022, 10:22:49 AM »
There is a very small uptick in deaths from heart disease during the pandemic both from those with or having had covid being weaker and less able to survive a heart attack and from people being reluctant to go to the hospital or clinic when experiencing symptoms due to fears of contracting covid.
How about being plain old denied the opportunity to go to the hospital due to the unnecessary lockdowns and restrictions.
How has anyone been denied the opportunity to go to the hospital in the US due to the response to the pandemic?
During the lockdowns and restrictions, many clinics, medical centers, and hospitals were closed to people needing regular visits to such places for many different types of ailments.

Both my sister and my brother-in-law were denied such visits during the near entirety of 2020.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 01, 2022, 08:43:56 AM »
There is a very small uptick in deaths from heart disease during the pandemic both from those with or having had covid being weaker and less able to survive a heart attack and from people being reluctant to go to the hospital or clinic when experiencing symptoms due to fears of contracting covid.
How about being plain old denied the opportunity to go to the hospital due to the unnecessary lockdowns and restrictions.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 31, 2022, 07:09:57 PM »
Reporting that a criminal complaint exists is not scamming anyone. You really struggle with factual content vs what your easily outraged persona believes.
But it is another example of Trump's character and flagrant disregard for the law. 
^The effects of three-card monte journalism are demonstrated right here, as no criminality has been determined.

You were saying?
Are you saying that it's perfectly legal for Trump to continue using the presidential seal at his golf course even when federal law says that it isn't?
I wrote exactly what I wrote, as did you.

You labeled Trump a criminal in this case when that hasn't yet been established.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 31, 2022, 06:34:53 PM »
Reporting that a criminal complaint exists is not scamming anyone. You really struggle with factual content vs what your easily outraged persona believes.
But it is another example of Trump's character and flagrant disregard for the law. 
^The effects of three-card monte journalism are demonstrated right here, as no criminality has been determined.

You were saying?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 31, 2022, 04:25:54 PM »
What has been the result of this blockbuster case!?!?!
I never said that it's a "blockbuster case".  But it is another example of Trump's character and flagrant disregard for the law.  Then again, there are so many other investigations on against Trump that it's understandable that you might not care about this one.
Well, it seems that a disregard for the law isn't even established in this case, as that has not yet been determined.

Yes, there is a lot of news about all of these "investigations."

Lots of "three card monte," journalism taking place nowadays.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 31, 2022, 04:55:30 AM »
When you describe something illegal, let us know for sure, okay?

Do you mean like illegally using the presidential seal for commercial purposes?
Federal law prohibits knowingly using the printed or other likeness of the presidential seal “for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States.”

Violations of the law can result in fines, imprisonment up to six months or both.
Gee, you better contact the DOJ and have them get right on this whopper of a case.
Someone already did.
https://www.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/2021-7-16-Presidential-seal.pdf
Fantastic!

What has been the result of this blockbuster case!?!?!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 31, 2022, 04:52:23 AM »
When you describe something illegal, let us know for sure, okay?

Do you mean like illegally using the presidential seal for commercial purposes?
Federal law prohibits knowingly using the printed or other likeness of the presidential seal “for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States.”

Violations of the law can result in fines, imprisonment up to six months or both.
Gee, you better contact the DOJ and have them get right on this whopper of a case.

Weird way of admitting you were wrong.
Wrong about what?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 30, 2022, 04:32:44 PM »
Quick questions...

Do you think Brandon is gonna send a slate of fake construction workers to erect "the foot of wall" he swore would never be built during his administration?

Or will he send pedos to finish it?

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