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Flat Earth Media / Re: An interesting challenge from Michael Toonz
« on: March 26, 2024, 07:43:14 PM »
I see.

The calculations he offered WRT the "round" earth were from an on-line calculator.  The page with the calculator describes how the calculations are done.  The resulting prediction was correct.

The "round earth calculator" actually has the "celestial sphere," math.

The other calculations were done using one particular flat earth model and some simple grade 9 math.  As he pointed out, there seems to be some issue with which flat earth model to choose and what the elevation of the sun is as flat earther's themselves cannot agree on those important aspects of their "theory".

However, you mention "physical aspects of the celestial sphere".  Perhaps they would be a way to make a reliable prediction.  So, which physical aspects are we talking about and what is the mathematical model for their use?
The only issue with the math is how one chooses to label it. The math is the same.

One group believes the numbers are a result of a spherical earth, the other group knows it is the "celestial sphere" providing the basis for the numbers.

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Flat Earth Media / Re: An interesting challenge from Michael Toonz
« on: March 26, 2024, 04:02:56 PM »
He is assuming facts not in evidence when he offers up calculations based on a round earth. In reality, the sunset times reflect the sun's setting time over a flat earth. The angle measures are simply a transcription of a celestial sphere to locations below on the flat earth plane. And the sun really does not "set". It remains above the entire plane at all times. As it revolves over our heads, it becomes fully occluded by physical aspects of the celestial sphere.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 25, 2024, 05:25:21 PM »
So much winning!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68600093
The bond was reduced.

Next up - The appeals court throws out the whole case because it was fucking bogus to begin with.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 19, 2024, 03:30:32 PM »
It's almost like they went with an insane fine that they knew not even a billionaire could afford because it's a political hit job.
You'd think someone worth....*searches*

https://www.google.no/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/09/08/trump-overstated-net-worth-by-up-to-3point6-billion-per-year-ny-ag-alleges-in-new-filing.html?espv=1

$4.5 billion, per his claim, could cough up the money.

Practically no one has the cash on hand to pay 11% of their net worth to settle a civil suit. Further, it makes very little sense to get upset at someone for overstating their net worth, then fine them more money than you know they can afford (because you were upset at them for overstating their worth!).

It's an obvious attempt to make Trump look bad and it was a huge waste of time. The only thing this case has done to Trump's support is cement his narrative that the "deep state" is out to get him.

Wasn't the fine calculated based on the revenue lost to the bank?
What revenue?

Lost to what bank?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 19, 2024, 12:47:16 PM »
^Claims the Simpsons are an authoritative source on how real lives and procedural actions regarding policy should be conducted.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 18, 2024, 04:32:13 PM »
Most everyone here has no problem with the performance of the economy under Trump and most everyone here has little to no clue of what a trade tariff actually is.

Everyone here is getting tired of being totally wrong about the "thing Trump said."

"They," have been exposed as the secret "OMG" team they've been, all along.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 15, 2024, 02:15:02 PM »
So, I fail to understand how you lifelong socialists are against another lifelong socialist...what's the real message here?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2024, 05:49:01 PM »
Source? 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/02/fact-check-covid-19-uv-light-treatment-research-underway-los-angeles/3053177001/

"On April 20, three days before Trump made his remarks, pharmaceutical company Aytu Bioscience announced that it had signed an exclusive license for worldwide rights to the Healight Platform Technology under research at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles."
Well, good to know he's really really bad at siting sources.  And context since he was just talking about disinfecting rooms with light.  But hey, good on you for proving a point.
No, he was talking about potential therapy for respiratory infections.

And no one really cares if some ex-patriate has an opinion regarding some other person being bad at citing sources, since that same ex-patriate is terrible at reading comprehension.

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I suppose when anyone mentions Joe Biden has dementia, it is because the rackety old paedo has dementia.

So you admit that its not what's said but who says it.  Love the honesty on your hypocracy.
What hypocrisy?

There is nothing that old paedo fuck could ever say that would be remotely truthful or worthwhile.
The different answers based on the same words.  But as Honk said, was likely staged or carefully picked.
Not only was it staged, it was horrendously staged. Given the feeble first step of offering a quote regarding something that was actually legitimate.

The asshat writers of Kimmel's show are just as stupid as some of the re-adherents posting on this forum.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2024, 03:21:35 PM »
Source? 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/02/fact-check-covid-19-uv-light-treatment-research-underway-los-angeles/3053177001/

"On April 20, three days before Trump made his remarks, pharmaceutical company Aytu Bioscience announced that it had signed an exclusive license for worldwide rights to the Healight Platform Technology under research at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles."

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I suppose when anyone mentions Joe Biden has dementia, it is because the rackety old paedo has dementia.

So you admit that its not what's said but who says it.  Love the honesty on your hypocracy.
What hypocrisy?

There is nothing that old paedo fuck could ever say that would be remotely truthful or worthwhile.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2024, 03:17:07 PM »
If you are claiming the average joe on the street doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, you got no argument from me.
Well alrighty then. In that case I guess we're not too far apart on this one.
But it is troubling. These people can vote. And there they are doing a 180 degree turn on the spot depending on whether a certain event or comment they're presented with is said to have come from Biden (in which case it's "Boo! Hiss! Biden bad") or Trump (in which case it's "Well, he has a point. U-S-A! U-S-A!")

Again, you're getting bogged down in the detail of whether you can shine UV light in to someone and cure Covid. It doesn't matter. It was just one example in the video. There are others. The point is the people's opinions about what was said or done wasn't based on the merits of them but based entirely on who they were told had said or done those things. I'm not saying Trump has a monopoly on stupid voters by the way, but sheesh! No wonder we end up with such poor leaders.
Again, you are calling into question whether these people should be allowed to vote, when you yourself, on these very boards, were making fun of Trump for making the truthful statement about UV therapeutic treatment, when he made it.

I am going to remind everyone here of the real big, fucking lie you propagated in this very thread:
Just, please don't drink bleach to own the libs.
Don't you tell me what to do  >:(

He really has to stop saying this shit. I know some people think that the press unfairly obsess over him, maybe with some justification, but holy shit he gives a lot of ammo.
Trump never said anything about drinking bleach.  And you are supposedly making a critical post about the abilities of other people to cast a reasoned vote, based on their inability to correctly attribute quotes? Are you fucking serious?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2024, 01:22:03 PM »
The very first question by "the "man in the street," to the layperson had to do with the issue of a "shining light cure," for respiratory illness, such as corona.

Since UV light is a safe and effective treatment, as anyone can see, can we just dispose of your nonsense now?
Are you currently in training for the "missing the point" event in the 2024 Paris Olympics?
If so then I think the US is a shoo-in for a gold medal.

The point is not whether what Trump said was stupid, or whether what Trump did was bad.

The point is that the same person when presented with a certain statement declared it the ramblings of a dementia patient when told it was Biden who said it. When the person pretended that "whoopsie-doodle, I got my notes mixed up" and told them it was actually Trump who said it then suddenly it was all "well, it would depend what that technology was..." and so on.

Do you see the problem?
If you are claiming the average joe on the street doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, you got no argument from me. I see it exhibited in a multitude of posts from the re-adherents here everyday.

I mean, Mark Dice has done much of the same schtick buttwipe Jimmy tried to foist off as original in the lame vid you posted. The difference being the thing they are trying to backhandedly mock Trump for is actually legitimate and, regardless of who brought it up, that person should be acknowledged as having a legitimate point.

So, yeah...seems you are trying to mock some other people on the street who do not know shit, when it seems you do not know the same shit.

Tell me how this makes you any sort of arbiter.

But hey, never fear...those fearless minions in Georgia really got him now...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2024, 01:03:34 PM »
Sigh.

video snipped because Jimmy Kimmel is a goddamn moron

This is why democracy is a terrible idea.
The very first question by "the "man in the street," to the layperson had to do with the issue of a "shining light cure," for respiratory illness, such as corona.

Since UV light is a safe and effective treatment, as anyone can see, can we just dispose of your nonsense now?

https://www.google.com/search?q=UV+light+treatment+for+respiratory+illness&rlz=1C1GCEO_en&oq=UV+light+treatment+for+respiratory+illness&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigAdIBCTEyOTQzajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Nice find.

I mean, it was done after Trump said it but thats not the point.  If it was, why did they say Joe Biden had dimentia?  Surely the answers should have been the same regardless of who said it, no?
What do you mean it was done after Trump said it?

A pharmaceutical company made mention of it three days prior to Trump stating it.

I suppose when anyone mentions Joe Biden has dementia, it is because the rackety old paedo has dementia.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2024, 12:38:36 PM »
Sigh.

video snipped because Jimmy Kimmel is a goddamn moron

This is why democracy is a terrible idea.
The very first question by "the "man in the street," to the layperson had to do with the issue of a "shining light cure," for respiratory illness, such as corona.

Since UV light is a safe and effective treatment, as anyone can see, can we just dispose of your nonsense now?

https://www.google.com/search?q=UV+light+treatment+for+respiratory+illness&rlz=1C1GCEO_en&oq=UV+light+treatment+for+respiratory+illness&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigAdIBCTEyOTQzajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2024, 11:02:27 AM »
Well, bit by bit, the "two more weeks," is going to turn into four more years. Georgia is turning into a three-ring circus.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 07, 2024, 04:36:56 PM »
Yes, I agree Saddam.

It was excellent that Rushy pointed out you don't read any news articles.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 06, 2024, 09:22:26 PM »
It was Democrats seeking to kick a lifelong Democrat off the ballot. I mean, you guys should write the truth.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 05, 2024, 07:44:40 PM »
You are correct, I am.

Well, thats a bad ruling.  Means insurrection is ok so long as your party controls congress.

Joe better get impeached, then, so he can be immune to legal issues later.
It means there was not enough evidence to convict Trump of inciting an insurrection.

It means the words incitement and insurrection don't mean what you think they mean.
Despite his party all saying they would vote no to remove before seeing any evidence?
Surely you're trolling.
Adding "his party all saying," doesn't help your post.

You can quit trolling.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 05, 2024, 01:52:53 PM »
You are correct, I am.

Well, thats a bad ruling.  Means insurrection is ok so long as your party controls congress.

Joe better get impeached, then, so he can be immune to legal issues later.
It means there was not enough evidence to convict Trump of inciting an insurrection.

It means the words incitement and insurrection don't mean what you think they mean.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 05, 2024, 10:04:22 AM »
The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.
No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.
Yeah, I did read it. It is up to Congress to determine that. And they already did in the 2nd Impeachment.

Incorrect.
Congress does not determine guilt or innocence.  Otherwise Bill Clinton did nothing wrong.
Trump was acquitted in the 2nd Impeachment.

Congress did not bar Trump from holding a federal office.

So, you are incorrect.

As usual.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 05, 2024, 07:49:22 AM »
The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.
No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.
Yeah, I did read it. It is up to Congress to determine that. And they already did in the 2nd Impeachment.

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