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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 08, 2025, 08:59:15 PM »

More directly, if as Ukrainian President Zelensky went on stage and did the bit where he plays the piano with his testicles again, no one would bat an eye. He would lose no popularity, simply because that is the person they voted for. They would clap and call it hilarious.

This is obviously bullshit. When you appoint or vote someone to a certain role you expect them to do that role and act professionally.
When Sebastian Coe became an MP he didn't run laps of the House of Commons during debates and had he done so literally no-one would have said "What did you expect? You elected an Olympic runner!"

Trump is unconventional and in a way that's not a bad thing. The issues with him are the complete lack of honesty, integrity and strategy.
You MAGA lot might not care, but I'd suggest these are not ideal traits in a leader. Your strategy for coping with it is to either not care or simply pretend those things aren't true.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 08, 2025, 04:38:03 PM »

Up to a point. Zelensky was a comedian before he went in to politics. I don't think the people of Ukraine elected him and then expected him to go on another standup tour or launch a new TV comedy series. Whatever background someone has, you elect someone to run the country, not to enrich themselves.

Actually Zelensky proves that the rules of traditional politics don't apply to stars. There is a video segment of Zelensky playing the piano with his testicles in front of an audience. If a traditional politician went on stage and did it, or if previously filmed segment was uncovered and publicized as they were campaigning, this would be career ending for them. For a traditional politician a video of them pants down in front of a piano would be professionally embarrassing and they would get rejected by their party, or they would have to resign. Zelensky got away with it because he was a media and comedic star, and his antics even gained him popularity.

Zelensky may not be using humor anymore in his role as president, but if he had continued with it he would assuredly get away with a lot.

There is something in what you're saying.
But there's a difference between Zelensky using humour in his speeches - which many politicians do anyway (often with...mixed results) and him launching a new comedy show or stand up tour. If he did those things I suspect there would be a feeling of "shouldn't you be running the country?"

You are right that Trump gets away with stuff which other politicians wouldn't. I just don't see that as a good thing. I'd prefer leaders to have integrity.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 08, 2025, 04:06:33 PM »

No politician should

Again, this is the issue. He's not a traditional politician, so he doesn't play by those rules. He is a television star and world famous comedic personality whose running theme is that he runs businesses and makes money, so he can get rich off of his crypto business and meme coins if he wants to.

You may as well argue that if Elvis were elected President that he shouldn't continue to sing in concerts, but those arguments will obviously not go far in the realm of public opinion if President Elvis Presley wanted to lead in a concert. Your social expectations of a traditional president would mean nothing, and they mean nothing here with Trump.

Up to a point. Zelensky was a comedian before he went in to politics. I don't think the people of Ukraine elected him and then expected him to go on another standup tour or launch a new TV comedy series. Whatever background someone has, you elect someone to run the country, not to enrich themselves.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 07, 2025, 06:14:47 PM »

Reporter: "When dees it become the Trump economy?"

Trump: "It partially is right now. And I really mean this I think the good parts are the Trump economy and the bad parts are the Biden economy"

lol

I mean.. that is Trump.  What is good, is his doing.  What's bad is someone else's fault.  Man has never admitted to losing or making a mistake.

The buck stops literally anywhere else but here.

He is beyond parody. It’s a quote which wouldn’t look out of place on SNL.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 07, 2025, 02:44:18 PM »

Reporter: "When dees it become the Trump economy?"

Trump: "It partially is right now. And I really mean this I think the good parts are the Trump economy and the bad parts are the Biden economy"

lol

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Physicist Brian Cox on Universal Acceleration

« on: May 05, 2025, 08:36:32 AM »

Actually, he does say that the upwards acceleration manifests as physical phenomena. At around the 5:50 mark he explains

I won't bother re-quoting the part you quoted in which he doesn't say it's a physical phenomenon at all.
He very carefully explains that it's the time dilation which causes the shift. Nothing physical at all. With the cones he explains how the ground can be accelerating upwards on different sides of the earth without the earth expanding. Not sure why you are ignoring that.
The cherry picked quote doesn't even say what you claim.

It is using the same mechanism of a policeman's radar gun which uses the red or blue shift of light to determine acceleration. When cars are accelerating away from the policeman, the light redshifts.

You think the cars have to be accelerating for them to work? That would be very inefficient, they'd never catch anyone speeding who is going at a constant speed. They do work by Doppler shift, usually of radar not visible light. Some use lasers and they also use the time taken for the signal to return to the device.

That's not the only part of the argument. The other part is that there is a lack of evidence that the earth's surface is accelerating upwards through space time or bending space.

The evidence is the observations and experiments. Einstein's theory of gravity predicts these things, Newton's doesn't. Multiple experiments have been done which observe the things Einstein predicted. That's how we know that Einstein's model of gravity is better than Newton's. Although Newton's works fine in most circumstances. As I said, GPS satellites take Relativistic effects into account in order for it to work accurately
https://www.gpsworld.com/inside-the-box-gps-and-relativity/

Actually this thread shows that mainstream science is cherry picking what to accept. It can't accept an upwardly accelerating earth

Another one of your "no u" arguments.
You literally started this thread by citing Brian Cox explaining how earth is accelerating upwards. My video also says that, but it also explains that it is not a physical acceleration - again, the cone thing. It's an acceleration through spacetime. The weird thing is on this Wiki page you use Relativity to explain why UA doesn't accelerate the earth beyond the speed of light:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Universal_Acceleration#Accelerating_to_the_Speed_of_Light

This is another example of your cherry picking. You use Relativity to explain things when it suits you, you dismiss it as some magical mystical thing which can't be true when it doesn't suit you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 04, 2025, 06:08:28 PM »

Finally some good news!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9l3399wvno

Although maybe not that good. Unless the Democrats sort their shit out it’ll probably be Vance or someone else shitting up the place next

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 04, 2025, 07:56:13 AM »

Ukraine is the weaker country and beggars can't be choosers.

So your stance is bullying is good, let’s give in to the bullies. Not the best philosophy I’ve heard tbh

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Physicist Brian Cox on Universal Acceleration

« on: May 04, 2025, 07:53:44 AM »

That video actually goes through the evidence and affirms that the physical reality is that the surface of the earth is accelerating upwards.

lol. He literally doesn’t use the word physical or physically once. He explains quite well how the acceleration is not physical.

Upwards acceleration of the earth's surface doesn't work if the Earth is a ball, so unseen realms of existence are invented where mechanics are occurring beyond our perception.

Also not true. He also explains how this explains gravitational red shift and time dilation. Both of these things have been verified experimentally and he mentions how time dilation is taken in to account in GPS satellites. This isn’t blind faith, these are predictions of Einstein’s theories and have been observed to be true.

The reason why we always just see Brian Cox or others merely explaining what it is, but we never see direct defense of the upward acceleration of the earth's surface through space time, is because it is ridiculous beyond words

As a wise man once said (see my sig)
“Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."



You continue to conflate “I don’t understand this” with “this is not possible”. And curiously you do so while cherry picking parts of mainstream science where it suits your agenda. There’s no crime in being ignorant, but it’s a little silly to base a whole worldview on that ignorance.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 02, 2025, 05:02:58 AM »

Also
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkx3jgyvyzo

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 01, 2025, 09:12:53 PM »

Waltz to leave his post.
Strange as he didn’t do anything wrong.
ThisIsFine.jpg

"US National Security Adviser Mike Waltz will leave his post and be nominated to serve as ambassador to the United Nations, President Donald Trump says"

I actually thought you were joking.
Genuinely impossible to tell reality from satire these days.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 01, 2025, 06:45:19 PM »

Waltz to leave his post.
Strange as he didn’t do anything wrong.
ThisIsFine.jpg

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 01, 2025, 09:24:28 AM »

Wait wait wait...

You're using E85 as 'gas'?
No wonder we couldn't find it!  E85 is normally cheaper than regular unleaded so this went from:

Gas in many states
To gas in some states
To gas in 3 states
To gas at a few stations
To E85 at a few stations.

My my how the goal posts keep shifting.

lol
Tom will move them as far as he needs to in order to make it seem like his cult leader is right.
I wonder if he'll ever realise that the emperor has no clothes on. If he does then he will never admit it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 01, 2025, 09:08:02 AM »

Even this version of the claim

It is not a claim. That's the video if him saying "a lot of states". Something you claimed he didn't say and you accused the BBC of lying about.
But he did say it. That's the video proving it. The honest thing to do now would be to admit you were wrong and retract your accusation

Less than two minutes beforehand he says it is in "three states"

So now you're admitting that he contradicted himself within about a minute
First it was 3 States, a minute later it was "a lot of states". Unless you're going to argue that 3 out of 50 is "a lot".
I'm not sure how this helps your case.

Every price has gone down

Which is a lie, isn't it? Every price hasn't gone down. If we are still talking about gas and the average price has ticked up slightly then it cannot be true that every price as gone down because math.

Replace gasoline with womens purses in your argument and you will see how poor that argument is.

What a stupid comparison. I had a look on Amazon. You can find cheap purses for under £10. You can find some "luxury" ones for over £1,000.
Gas prices cannot be compared to that - sure, some places will have higher prices than others but you won't get that sort of range.

According to Gas Buddy Texas is now down to $1.97 a gallon for E85 type fuel

lol. So you picked the cheapest places in the entire State AND you picked the cheaptest type of fuel. A type I'd never heard of because
"Most standard petrol vehicles are not designed to run on E85 and may experience problems like loss of power, fuel economy issues, or even engine damage".

Trump is using gasoline as a national indicator of health, and so the lowest prices in the country should be used.

lol. OK, champ. Next time you fill up let me know what price you paid. See whether the minimum price of the cheapest type of fuel available in the country helps you.
I's suggest a better measure of health is that the economy of the whole country shrunk for the first time since 2022 because of Trump's insane trade war.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 30, 2025, 09:11:48 PM »

In the video of his statement Trump says that gas "hit" 1.98 in a "couple" of states[/url]. He does not say "a lot of states", so this quote they gave us which allegedly comes from Trump is a lie as well.

Nope.

This is the video where he says it



Very clearly says "a lot of states", so please retract that accusation.

posting the average price to its audience as a form of evidence is intellectually dishonest.

As usual, the opposite is true. If someone promises to bring down the price of something and the average price goes up then they haven't kept that promise. Even if the price at one or even a handful of gas stations is as low as he claims, it's a dishonest representation to take the minimum price you can find and use that as evidence that you kept your promise when the average has gone up.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Physicist Brian Cox on Universal Acceleration

« on: April 30, 2025, 01:47:30 PM »

Some explanation about what’s really going on here. Interesting stuff.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 30, 2025, 11:00:18 AM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5rd35wg4ro

And yet his cult members whoop and cheer and pretend they can see 5 fingers when he holds up 4.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 29, 2025, 01:29:21 PM »

textbook leftist woke talking points the woke playbook woke ideology the far left woke lefty virtue signaling woke leftist Team Woke virtue signaling woke deflection woke

lol honestly, tim's nightly meltdowns have been the highlight of the first 100 days

I quite enjoy waking up in the morning and seeing if Tom has had another meltdown.
It's like seeing if Santa has been.

But yes, I'm very woke because I think vulnerable children and adults should be cared about and protected in a civilized country, and that there should be due process.
Utter woke leftist nonsense, that!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 28, 2025, 03:42:25 PM »

The amount of lying and crying here for criminal migrants is astounding, considering the ones doing the lying and crying actually don't give a fuck either.

In a civilized society whether someone is a criminal or not is determined in a law court.
It's the lack of due process which should concern you. It doesn't because it's not affecting you.
Yet...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: April 26, 2025, 12:41:09 PM »

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/ice-deports-3-u-s-citizen-children-held-incommunicado-prior-to-the-deportation

imagine unironically deporting citizen babies with cancer

And I bet people like Tom and Action are cheering this.  Those fucking MAGA.  Evil to the god damn core.

It interesting how much that lot care about unborn babies.
And how little they care about actual babies, children or adults who are vulnerable.