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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 28, 2022, 03:09:57 AM »
It stays still.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 27, 2022, 11:45:41 PM »
You should only see one image of Polaris.  Its image follows you as you move around the world. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 27, 2022, 05:42:24 AM »
Edit: Clyde I found a few errors on the map which I'll correct soon.     

I'll keep my original response below for general purposes:
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The original reflection map plots the constellation directly overhead at a certain latitude every two hours- it doesn't capture movement.  How the stars can rotate counter-clockwise in the north and clockwise in the south over time, is a property of moving objects seen through a dome..


Credit:  https://wiki.tfes.org/Southern_Celestial_Rotation#Glass_Dome_Example

This is a map of the Cepheus Constellation and the Milky Way Galaxy and how they appear to rotate counter-clockwise around Polaris during the day from 30N latitude.



Other properties of a dome can be seen here..



 Stars with high altitudes such as the northern stars can duplicate there images.  Stars with lower altitudes such as the southern stars do not duplicate.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 25, 2022, 08:21:34 PM »
Stack, I updated the map above...   From NYC and London at night, you can both see the image of Polaris while looking north on a disc (even though your looking in different directions) because the actual image of Polaris is reflected off of the dome and transported to the edges...  I'm not even sure you can see the real Polaris (in yellow font) from the ground.  All we see are reflections of Polaris and the constellations above, as is represented by the 1st version of this star map.


So, technically the reflected image of Polaris follows you around the world, always pointing north near the edge of the dome. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 25, 2022, 08:45:54 AM »
Hi Guys,

Attached is an image of the northern stars as they would appear above the Dome In yellow font.  I included Polaris and a few other constellations.  The important concept here is that the stars in yellow are hovering above earth and there images are reflecting off of the Dome.  This is why you see many of the same constellations and Polaris accross the world at the same times. 

I placed these constellations with reference to the milky way.  Its still a work in progress so I will edit the map as needed. 


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 21, 2022, 10:04:05 AM »
Yes - And I see your point earlier.   The "image" of Polaris can always be seen around the world pointing directly north.  I just picked a few locations to plot it. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 21, 2022, 08:39:37 AM »
its this question that prompted me to make this map!  :D   I think the answer is that the northern stars reflect off of the dome in such a way that their image can be seen around the world.  I will make a map of this soon which will explain in more detail. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 21, 2022, 08:09:51 AM »
Stack, you can rotate the stars and sun above the map or rotate the earth beneath them.  Just use the sun as a reference to determine the time of day for any given location.  This is an important point so let me know if you (or I) understand everything

And at any time of the day looking north would follow the same direction as lines of longitude and be almost parallel to them.  So your NY directional arrow needs to straighten out by a few degrees to the right, but your London arrow is perfect.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 21, 2022, 07:54:25 AM »
I just prefer this format.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 21, 2022, 06:56:25 AM »
Based on the position of the sun it's about 12pm in London and 7am in NY.   The direction of north is correct.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 21, 2022, 05:08:13 AM »
First, great website.  I will probably use this to build my sky up, lol . Functionally, this map is useful to quickly find when certain constellations are overhead during the day.

To your question, from NYC at midnight you would look north for Polaris.  I actually live on Long Island and I just tested this map against the sky.  I was able to see Ursa Major to the North.

People in London at 7am would also look north and see an image of Polaris but the mechanics of it require a more in depth analysis.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Star Map
« on: April 21, 2022, 12:35:52 AM »
Okay, so off the bat you will see the same constellations as the London example.  You have to imagine that NY has moved 12 hours away from the sun at Solar noon.   So on the map, at 12am solar time, NYC will be positioned between Draco and Bootes and near the Bering Straight around 180 longitude.

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Flat Earth Theory / New Star Map
« on: April 20, 2022, 11:13:57 PM »
Hi Guys,

I created this star chart which lists the constellations above you at a certain time and place. Its based on Solar time.

Using this map, London at Solar Noon should have the constellation Cassiopeia above it.  At 12 Midnight in London, you should see Draco above you, Bootes and Virgo to your South, and the North Star, Ursa Minor, Cassiopeia, and Andromeda to your North as the map suggests.

You can double check the Constellation accuracy by using the website Stellarium - https://stellarium-web.org/  For example, I entered London at 12 midnight and viewed the constellations I should see (Pictured below).  You might have to make slight adjustments for differences between Solar time and Standard time.




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I'm listening to his first podcast now.  He's a smart man.   :-\

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: April 09, 2022, 10:44:47 PM »
Tumeni, lol.

My main point is I think people have power to choose a sexual activity or life-style (gay, straight, hugh hefnor, etc).   

And I agree we shouldn't "over do" sex-ed and lead the audience...  But I have never seen this done. The Doctor said "everyone has met a transgender boy or girl by now" which I haven't.
 I'm hesitant to think this is a huge issue for the majority of people. 

Organizations like the LGBT movement i've come to respect.  Sometimes society can be grim and they have an ability to lift people's spirits.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: April 09, 2022, 03:33:08 PM »
i don't mean to jump in late to this convo, but I do think some people can sometimes choose there sexuality or lack thereof. 

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: UFO's on a Flat Earth.
« on: April 08, 2022, 06:15:35 AM »
Thats what I'm proposing.  That we take our current understanding of the cosmos and consider UFO's within that framework.

Here's an interesting article about an interview with Chris Hadfield - Air Force, Navy, and NASA pilot.
 https://futurism.com/the-byte/astronaut-ufos-aliens-idiot

He admits to seeing many objects in the sky which he cannot explain but is hesitant to consider them extraterrestrials. 

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Science & Alternative Science / UFO's on a Flat Earth.
« on: March 25, 2022, 07:16:16 PM »
Hi Guys,

I've recently considered the UFO phenomena.  It's presumed these UFO's are coming from other Solar Systems or Galaxies many millions of miles away.

But if you assume the earth is flat and the stars are a few thousand miles above earth, then extraterrestrials are closer then we think. 

Thoughts?

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Technology & Information / Re: James Webb telescope launches!
« on: March 17, 2022, 09:31:30 PM »
Yea I almost ignored them until I looked again..  so subtle.

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Technology & Information / Re: James Webb telescope launches!
« on: March 17, 2022, 09:22:02 PM »
I'm really excited about this.  :o

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