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Other Discussion Boards => Technology & Information => Topic started by: Thork on February 22, 2014, 01:01:25 AM
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So as you may or may not know, I get free stuff from my clients. Mostly phones and tablets.
Anyhoo, I recently got given a new Nokia Windows 8 phone.
Now my first reaction was "Yuck, I hate Windows 8" (it does not work on desktop full stop) and my second was "That's a shame because I'm bored of iPhone and iOS7 sucks so badly".
Anyway, I had to use it for some work and well ... I frickin' love it. :D
Its fast, looks nice, has everything I need, isn't hard to read or garish like iOS7. Its just a really nice phone. I'm not a huge fan of Android either. Too google dependant and it looks like shit as well.
So anyway I'm downloading the Windows Phone SDK and will be hammering out apps for it very soon. There is way less competition in the app store at the moment so that is appealing.
Microsoft seem to have done a really nice job. Apart from anything else, Visual Studio is done so much better than xcode which is a steaming pile of massively unstable manure.
My iPhone is now sat simless in my drawer wishing its home button hadn't got progressively more difficult to activate and that its upgrade from iOS7 hadn't buggered its performance so badly and made it the ugliest thing on a computer since goatse. Its crappy battery life didn't help its cause either. Now it can only hear its replacement chiming and ringing through the darkness as it sits next to my socks. I hope its heart-broken.
Anyone else have a Windows phone?
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>iOS 7
>uglier than previous iOS versions
>Android
>implying stock looks are relevant when the entire thing is entirely customizable
Oh, you got a Windows phone. That explains everything.
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No, that's what I thought, but its actually really bloody good. I know, I know, I wouldn't have believed it either. But it is.
Also most versions of Android I have used are poorly laid out and its fussy about stuff, always sticking screens up in your grill when you are trying to do something else.
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I'm not a huge fan of Android either. Too google dependant and it looks like shit as well.
Android is not at all dependent on Google. My phone runs Android with no Google apps installed, and the only Google service I use it with is Google Maps (via Firefox).
There are plenty of good reasons to hate Android, but Google isn't one of them.
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You're just in a Google botnet and you don't even realize!!!!!!!
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Unbeknownst to Thork, Google bought Microsoft in 2008.
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Unbeknownst to Thork, Google bought Microsoft in 2008.
blaze it
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I'm not a huge fan of Android either. Too google dependant and it looks like shit as well.
Android is not at all dependent on Google.
Except for the fact that Google develops and maintains Android.
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I'm not a huge fan of Android either. Too google dependant and it looks like shit as well.
Android is not at all dependent on Google.
Except for the fact that Google develops and maintains Android.
Isn't Android open source?
Thork: that's basically how I felt about the MS surface. Its weird isn't it? Its like Microsoft knew how to make a touch screen interface but failed at making it a desktop too.
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Isn't Android open source?
I suppose that depends on your definition of open source.
Android's source code is released by Google under the Apache License; this permissive licensing allows the software to be freely modified and distributed by device manufacturers, wireless carriers and enthusiast developers. Most Android devices ship with a combination of open source and proprietary software.
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I suppose that depends on your definition of open source.
Please enlighten us as to what you define open source as.
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Except for the fact that Google develops and maintains Android.
Irrelevant.
Isn't Android open source?
I suppose that depends on your definition of open source.
No, it doesn't. You're just wrong.
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I'm not a huge fan of Android either. Too google dependant and it looks like shit as well.
Android is not at all dependent on Google.
Except for the fact that Google develops and maintains Android.
Isn't Android open source?
Thork: that's basically how I felt about the MS surface. Its weird isn't it? Its like Microsoft knew how to make a touch screen interface but failed at making it a desktop too.
I can't stand the surface. I think I have ranted about it before. Apple has OSX and iOS. They appreciate that a desktop OS is not going to work on a phone and vice versa. Microsoft didn't get the memo.
Its why I was not interested in Windows phone. Windows 8 hadn't worked on my PC, it was awful on the surface ... but it suddenly makes sense on a phone. Its really rather good.
Unfortunately to develop for Windows Phone you need Windows 8 Pro on your desktop. This is irritating. I have windows 7 like anyone else with a windows PC. Do I want to pat £107 to write phone aps for Windows phone and ruin my computer at the same time? I thought about buying a separate machine just for development but that really is just crazy talk. I have a perfectly good PC already.
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You could just not use Metro on Win 8 like a sensible human being.
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You could just not use Metro on Win 8 like a sensible human being.
Of course.
But £107 + all the cocking about reformatting and reinstalling everything on my computer? Very tempting just to get a new one.
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It is easy to make a new partition and install Win 8 on it so you can dual boot. It is also very cheap to buy a separate drive to install Win 8 on and then you could just chose which drive to boot from. No need to reformat anything.
Although, with all of the problems that you had with GRUB after you tried Linux, maybe you should just stick to a single operating system.
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Yeah, let's not forget it's a noob you're talking to here.
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I'm not a huge fan of Android either. Too google dependant and it looks like shit as well.
Android is not at all dependent on Google.
Except for the fact that Google develops and maintains Android.
Isn't Android open source?
Thork: that's basically how I felt about the MS surface. Its weird isn't it? Its like Microsoft knew how to make a touch screen interface but failed at making it a desktop too.
I can't stand the surface. I think I have ranted about it before. Apple has OSX and iOS. They appreciate that a desktop OS is not going to work on a phone and vice versa. Microsoft didn't get the memo.
Its why I was not interested in Windows phone. Windows 8 hadn't worked on my PC, it was awful on the surface ... but it suddenly makes sense on a phone. Its really rather good.
Unfortunately to develop for Windows Phone you need Windows 8 Pro on your desktop. This is irritating. I have windows 7 like anyone else with a windows PC. Do I want to pat £107 to write phone aps for Windows phone and ruin my computer at the same time? I thought about buying a separate machine just for development but that really is just crazy talk. I have a perfectly good PC already.
A smart phone is just like a small tablet. How can the same OS work on a phone with a smaller screen but suddenly become horrible when the screen size is larger? That's like saying iOS is terrible on the iPad but great on the iPhone.
Also, having now used the surface for work, I love it. Its weight is great for one hand holding and typing, the battery life is damn good, and excel works oddly easily.
Too bad the store sucks.
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Also, having now used the surface for work, I love it. Its weight is great for one hand holding and typing, the battery life is damn good, and excel works oddly easily.
Too bad the store sucks.
That's the great thing about the Surface (and probably why the store sucks) is that you don't need the store for anything.
Unless you're using the RT. That's unfortunate.
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Your clients are bribing you. Does your work know this?
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Also, having now used the surface for work, I love it. Its weight is great for one hand holding and typing, the battery life is damn good, and excel works oddly easily.
Too bad the store sucks.
That's the great thing about the Surface (and probably why the store sucks) is that you don't need the store for anything.
Unless you're using the RT. That's unfortunate.
If you use the pro the battery life takes a nose dive(at least on the first gen). For the rare times I need it, the RT works well.
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If you use the pro the battery life takes a nose dive(at least on the first gen). For the rare times I need it, the RT works well.
Lower screen brightness, undervolt the components, and boom, better battery life than the RT.
I'll admit that's a workaround rather than an actual feature, though. Also installing real graphics drivers was a pain (which can also increase battery life by optimizing energy consumption). By real I mean Intel's latest and greatest, not the old garbage drivers available in the Surface Pro driver package.
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Its weight is great for one hand holding and typing
Stop trolling my thread. Those things are heavier than a Jew's wallet.
Your clients are bribing you. Does your work know this?
I got that phone direct from Nokia. Work know. They said I could have it.
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Its weight is great for one hand holding and typing
Stop trolling my thread. Those things are heavier than a Jew's wallet.
I never said it was light, I said the weight was good for one handed typing. Some of us don't like typing on paper.
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(http://gigaompaidcontent.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/microsoft-surface-blue.jpg?w=300&h=219)
How do you hold that in one hand? And if you take the keyboard off, surely now your typing hand is full?
Dave, its shit.
How do you use the desktop with touch? You can't point at anything because desktop windows is too small. And you can't do much from metro on a surface because the Windows behind it has all the real functionality, like your folders.
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(http://gigaompaidcontent.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/microsoft-surface-blue.jpg?w=300&h=219)
How do you hold that in one hand? And if you take the keyboard off, surely now your typing hand is full?
Dave, its shit.
How do you use the desktop with touch? You can't point at anything because desktop windows is too small. And you can't do much from metro on a surface because the Windows behind it has all the real functionality, like your folders.
Ummm... I hold it in my left hand(flat) and type with my right. If I have to show you a video I will.
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That's two people, Thork, that have told you that the Surface can be easily held with one hand, but you continue to claim it is too heavy. Maybe you should start taking steroids, your arms are tiny and frail.
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Its weight is great for one hand holding and typing
Stop trolling my thread. Those things are heavier than a Jew's wallet.
Have you considered the possibility that it might just be you who's too weak?
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If I have to show you a video I will.
Do it!
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If I have to show you a video I will.
Do it!
Oh alright.
http://youtu.be/4aJfY67IpjM
No, my voice is not that soft. I spoke soft for effect.
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Yeah, don't speak soft again. that was terrifying.
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http://youtu.be/4aJfY67IpjM
That was awesome. You're the best.
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That was awesome. You're the best.
I only hope it ends the debate.
Yeah, don't speak soft again. that was terrifying.
Really? I'll have to practice it for Halloween then.
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That was awesome. You're the best.
I only hope it ends the debate.
Yeah, don't speak soft again. that was terrifying.
Really? I'll have to practice it for Halloween then.
Everything else was fine, just... somehow you scared me, bro. Anyway, yes, you are the best.
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3 views
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3 views
It's going viral!
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Dave looks exactly how literally everyone imagined him.
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Dave looks exactly how literally everyone imagined him.
Hot and sexy?
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Dave looks exactly how literally everyone imagined him.
We had already seen a very low-quality picture of him. It would be difficult not to have had a reasonably accurate imagination of him.
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He doesn't look like a lord, but he does look exactly like a Dave.
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That was awesome. You're the best.
I only hope it ends the debate.
You don't know Thork very well, do you?
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That was awesome. You're the best.
I only hope it ends the debate.
You don't know Thork very well, do you?
Oh but I do. It'll end the debate and start the angry ranting.
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Dave looks exactly how literally everyone imagined him.
We had already seen a very low-quality picture of him. It would be difficult not to have had a reasonably accurate imagination of him.
Don't know if it's the same picture, but I've seen a picture of him holding his (4 stringed, lol) bass guitar. He looks thinner in that picture. Dave, you've put on.
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Dave looks exactly how literally everyone imagined him.
We had already seen a very low-quality picture of him. It would be difficult not to have had a reasonably accurate imagination of him.
Don't know if it's the same picture, but I've seen a picture of him holding his (4 stringed, lol) bass guitar. He looks thinner in that picture. Dave, you've put on.
Marriage.
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What a foolish thing.
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Dave looks exactly how literally everyone imagined him.
We had already seen a very low-quality picture of him. It would be difficult not to have had a reasonably accurate imagination of him.
Don't know if it's the same picture, but I've seen a picture of him holding his (4 stringed, lol) bass guitar. He looks thinner in that picture. Dave, you've put on.
Wasn't me. I have a 6 string acoustic guitar. And no picture of me holding it.
Though I have out on the pounds.
Is a viking woman not worth marriage? Do you insult the viking females?
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Don't know if it's the same picture, but I've seen a picture of him holding his (4 stringed, lol) bass guitar. He looks thinner in that picture. Dave, you've put on.
No, that was back when he had some computer problem and decided to post dozens of photographs of his screen. In one of them, the screen was pitch black, so you could see a rather clear reflection.
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Wasn't me. I have a 6 string acoustic guitar. And no picture of me holding it.
Really? Then who the fuck?
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Fuck me. It was Therman Detonator. I don't even know why I thought it was you.
Also, there are not viking women.
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Wasn't me. I have a 6 string acoustic guitar. And no picture of me holding it.
Really? Then who the fuck?
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Fuck me. It was Therman Detonator. I don't even know why I thought it was you.
Also, there are not viking women.
Then where do Viking men come from? Other men?
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They came from women.
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They came from women.
Who are also Vikings. Do you not know of shield maidens or valkyries?
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There are no vikings. Valkyries do not exist, and they are not vikings.
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There are no vikings. Valkyries do not exist, and they are not vikings.
Actually there are Norwegians who do learn all about Vikings and emulate their lifestyle, similar to US colonial reenactment people.
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That does not make them vikings. Does your wife pretend to be a viking?
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That does not make them vikings. Does your wife pretend to be a viking?
Fair enough.
No.
I concede, true vikings are extinct.
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Except me of course. The true High King!
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Except me of course. The true High King!
A king of none is no king.
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conceit?
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Are you conceited?
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conceit?
English fail.
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Are you conceited?
Yes, despite all evidence otherwise.
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If I have to show you a video I will.
Do it!
Oh alright.
http://youtu.be/4aJfY67IpjM
No, my voice is not that soft. I spoke soft for effect.
wtf was that?
RT version? what is the point in that? It doesn't run anything ... like games.
Not go pick up a real MS surface with an intel processor in it. Those are twice as thick.
I didn't think I'd ever see an RT surface because what's the point in that?
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If I have to show you a video I will.
Do it!
Oh alright.
http://youtu.be/4aJfY67IpjM
No, my voice is not that soft. I spoke soft for effect.
wtf was that?
RT version? what is the point in that? It doesn't run anything ... like games.
Not go pick up a real MS surface with an intel processor in it. Those are twice as thick.
I didn't think I'd ever see an RT surface because what's the point in that?
Yes, an extra 4mm is really going to make a difference.
Oh and I did hold a pro. Not a huge difference in holding.
(PS. I didn't buy the surface shown)
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They are terrible, but I'm scared that you will make another video, so we'll just leave it there.
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They are terrible, but I'm scared that you will make another video, so we'll just leave it there.
If you're afraid of me, does this mean I am more powerful than you?
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If that's what it takes to ensure your youtube career shudders to a halt, yes.
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I concede, true vikings are extinct.
You let a true scotsman fallacy work on you. You're a disgrace to the FES.
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It seems that Thork has made a moderately powerful enemy.
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I concede, true vikings are extinct.
You let a true scotsman fallacy work on you. You're a disgrace to the FES.
Ah shit.
I didn't think about that.
Though to be fair, Vikings don't exist anymore. They're replaced by Norwegians, Sweeds, and Minnesotans.
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Though to be fair, Vikings don't exist anymore.
Sez who?
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0808/top.mascots/images/Ragnar.jpg)
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Though to be fair, Vikings don't exist anymore.
Sez who?
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0808/top.mascots/images/Ragnar.jpg)
My wife. And one does NOT argue with my wife on such matters.
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Though to be fair, Vikings don't exist anymore.
Sez who?
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0808/top.mascots/images/Ragnar.jpg)
Sez me.
(http://img.sjm.so/beans2)