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"The value of infinity is also undefined."Hey, if you can trot out anything that states infinity is not undefined or has otherwise negated what the Greeks had to say about it being undefined, by all means, go ahead.*sigh*What is the difference between Infinity and Undefined?
• Undefined means, it is impossible to solve.
• Infinity means, it is without bound.
The lack of the word "undefined," in your examples in that it offers nothing contrary to what I have written.Hey, if you can trot out anything that states infinity is not undefined or has otherwise negated what the Greeks had to say about it being undefined, by all means, go ahead.
Sure.
Wikipedia has it right and goes into interpretations of it in some detail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfinityQuoteInfinity is that which is boundless, endless, or larger than any natural number.
Every dictionary on the web states the same thing in as many ways as you might fancy.
https://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/infinite.html
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infinite
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/infinite
https://www.lexico.com/definition/infinite
I could go on...
Here are 59 synonyms for "infinite". You'll notice that none of them are "undefined": https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/infinite
Maybe a short video on the matter?
I feel like the timing of this might have been a gift to the Democrats for the mid-term elections? I mean, it's true, the only way to fight this is by legislating; and the Democrats have five months to get that message across. This was a MASSIVELY unpopular decision; 70% of the country feels a woman has the right to choose what they do with their own bodies. The Supreme Court has given the Democrats just enough time to get the message out that only by maintaining (and building?) on their lead in Congress can voters have a hope of protecting that right, while ensuring that the decision will still be very fresh in voters' minds.70 percent, uh?
Between licking the leader of an insurrection's boots and allowing him to control their party and just continuing to make unpopular, backwards decisions, the Republicans almost seem like they're trying to sabotage themselves going forward.
Since you are such a huge fan of inference, that remains an aspect for you to explain where it does.Holy crap.
The language is specific and has nothing to do with physical assault.
Where does it say it has nothing to do with assault, specifically?
No one yet, and that is what the language hopes to establish and prevent.QuotePeople stating they do not condone homosexual behavior are the ones facing criminal or civil penalties, for simply stating that belief.
Who has faced criminal charges for simply stating they do not condone homosexuality?
You being the sole judge of what constitutes necessary and unnecessary, of course.QuoteYeah, it could look like that.
What is wrong with that?
It’s unnecessary discrimination in a lot of cases.
Actually, the shame comes from the same mentality that is incapable of understanding the word abnormal without negative connotation and the strong urge people have to engage in blaming others for their current physical and mental state.QuoteIt ends when you can come up with a valid reason for claiming to have achieved a sense of PRIDE due to committing a sexual act.
First off, Pride celebrations are not just about a sexual act so your characterization above is already off the mark. But if you want to know why Pride celebrations exist (I am going to assume you are ignorant and asking in good faith) well that’s simple.
Society largely made homosexuals feel ashamed and often made it unsafe to be homosexual for centuries. No one should feel threat or shame for being themselves and everyone should feel pride for who they are. Pride celebrations are a peaceful way to push back against people who want to discriminate against, propagate hate towards and oppress LGBTQ+ folk.
Mostly, yeah.QuoteTraditional values are the ones established and inculcated in each individual.
So everything people value is traditional.
Holy crap.Yeah, I believe homosexuals are incapable of interpreting the word, "abnormal," without a negative connotation.Yes, you love dog whistles, I know.Hmmm, you call the word "abnormal," a dog whistle?
Why?
The usage in connection to homosexuals is absolutely a dog whistle. If it’s simply meant as something that deviates from the norm then there is no need to legislate away rights that have been granted to them. It’s clear the GOP considers same-sex marriage unwanted and not on utilitarian grounds either.
You aren’t stupid, you know all of this. But you enjoy being able to support homophobia without doing so explicitly.
As are you, obviously.
Which offers no bearing or judgment on people, like me, who choose to use it to describe things that are not normal.
Making a statement, "Committing acts of homosexuality is outside of the norm," is not, at least for me, a dog whistle.
Pretty sad when statements of fact are treated as "dog whistles."
I think what's pretty sad on a simply human level is this:
"...and we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values."
Does that really mean it's ok to beat up a homosexual individual because they are abnormal (homosexual) and you won't be charged with assault because your beating of the individual was out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values?
If not, what does opposing homosexuality look like? What constitutes 'opposing homosexuality'? Not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple's upcoming wedding? Due to your faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values? How about not giving a job to someone because they are abnormally homosexual? Because of your faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values. A lender denying a loan to a gay couple because of their faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.Yeah, it could look like that.
Where does it end?It ends when you can come up with a valid reason for claiming to have achieved a sense of PRIDE due to committing a sexual act.
Who gets to define what 'traditional values' are? You want the government to define for you what 'traditional values' are? That seems quite big-government to me which I thought you were against.Traditional values are the ones established and inculcated in each individual.
Yeah, that's an Action 80 (Lackey) thing - Just rants and never provides any evidence to back up his rants. Comes with the territory. Definitely gives FE a bad rap.Hey, if you can trot out anything that states infinity is not undefined or has otherwise negated what the Greeks had to say about it being undefined, by all means, go ahead.
I mean seriously, just because something is currently (or in the past) unmeasurable doesn't defacto mean that the unmeasurable thing is (was) infinite. That's just daft. It just means we didn't know how to and/or lacked the proper gear to measure it.
And to trot out an ancient greek term like it blanket applies to current weights and measures tech is equally daft. I mean the last time I checked it's 2022, not 7th century BC.
Yes.Yeah, they are 100% relevant, you are just not able to understand that.Nice cherry?The ancient Greeks expressed infinity by the word apeiron, which had connotations of being unbounded, indefinite, undefined, and formless."The ancient Greeks, eh? Nice cherry. You should have read a bit further. I think you'd have found mathematics has come a long way since then. Like I said, infinity is well defined, but not as a value. We (us that know some math anyway) know exactly what is meant by infinity. Where is the proof the finite is adjacent to infinite? Still waiting...
BTW, here is proof that the sum of two real numbers (no matter what they are) is a real number (the set of real numbers is closed under addition). :https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Real_Addition_is_Closed So good luck finding a disproof.
It was quoted directly from your own source.
Funny your source offers absolutely nothing in regard to counter that infinity is, in fact, undefined.
As for your real numbers...
Irrelevant to the discussion.
Toodle pip.
Sad.
I'll leave you to your strange universe. I've tried as hard as I want to on this. I've given you everything you need. Maybe go back to school?
Until next time..
Yeah, I believe homosexuals are incapable of interpreting the word, "abnormal," without a negative connotation.Yes, you love dog whistles, I know.Hmmm, you call the word "abnormal," a dog whistle?
Why?
The usage in connection to homosexuals is absolutely a dog whistle. If it’s simply meant as something that deviates from the norm then there is no need to legislate away rights that have been granted to them. It’s clear the GOP considers same-sex marriage unwanted and not on utilitarian grounds either.
You aren’t stupid, you know all of this. But you enjoy being able to support homophobia without doing so explicitly.
Nice cherry?The ancient Greeks expressed infinity by the word apeiron, which had connotations of being unbounded, indefinite, undefined, and formless."The ancient Greeks, eh? Nice cherry. You should have read a bit further. I think you'd have found mathematics has come a long way since then. Like I said, infinity is well defined, but not as a value. We (us that know some math anyway) know exactly what is meant by infinity. Where is the proof the finite is adjacent to infinite? Still waiting...
BTW, here is proof that the sum of two real numbers (no matter what they are) is a real number (the set of real numbers is closed under addition). :https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Real_Addition_is_Closed So good luck finding a disproof.
Yes, you love dog whistles, I know.Hmmm, you call the word "abnormal," a dog whistle?
"Mathematical infinitiesInfinity is "undefined." And the symbol given is: ∞Infinity may have no set value, but it is defined:https://www.britannica.com/science/infinity-mathematics
Infinity.
... millions of people will welcome their new overlords.The only problem you are experiencing is it doesn't happen to be you claiming that title.
Infinity is "undefined." And the symbol given is: ∞A purely vertical line has infinite slope.Incorrect. It's undefined.
https://tutorme.com/blog/post/what-is-the-slope-of-a-vertical-line/
Because you can't divide by 0.
Yeah..you are just flat out wrong.There is a point in time when things are no longer able to be measured.No there isn't. There isn't a point.
It is then you label that point as infinite.
Numbers don't just run out. It doesn't go 1 - 2 - 3 .... 999,999 - 1,000,000 ... oh we've run out of numbers...infinity!
Infinity is a concept.It is certainly more than a concept.
Anyone can enter a report into VAERS. You, me, Thork, Mr. Potato Head..You would enter a false report into VAERS?
So, you want to engage in the process proposed by Copernicus.Adjacent most certainly does not mean "opposites."Correct.
It means next to each other.
Adjacent means “next to each other”.
But finite and infinite are not next to each other, they are opposites. Hence the prefix “in”, which means “not”. See?
You believe all things are measurable, evidently?There is a point in time when things are no longer able to be measured.Why would you no longer be able to measure something? Do you eventually run out of numbers?
It is then you label that point as infinite.
Adjacent most certainly does not mean "opposites."They are adjacent.You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
They're opposites.
Yes.Yeah, you can measure something, and then?Can you provide a single reference for this?
You cannot.
They are adjacent.
Finite is adjacent to infinite.What? Not to take this topic off course too much, but no, this is not true at all. There is no point between a given point of origin and infinity where you can say "One step closer to the origin and you are a finite distance away, but one step further and you are an infinite distance away". Nor could you find a scale between two given points where you divide the scale one more time and now you can say there are an infinite number of positions between those two points on this scale. Infinity is not a place, or a quantity, it is the conceptualization of the uncountably large. It does not exist any where near the finite.
Yeah, you can measure something, and then?Finite is adjacent to infinite.
Wow.You need to consult a dictionary.