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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: Today at 02:41:16 AM »
I've seen a fair amount of defenders of poor, rural, white people and lonely, virgin, men on Twitter whenever someone does try to pointlessly belittle them.
What was the overall response to them?
There wasn't a response really. When people make fun of others who are having a shit time of life it's pretty universally ratio'd.

You can disagree with shitty opinions, but if you just make fun of someone for living in a mobile home in the south or a sad lonely person then you're just a bully.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: October 24, 2021, 06:42:34 PM »
I've seen a fair amount of defenders of poor, rural, white people and lonely, virgin, men on Twitter whenever someone does try to pointlessly belittle them. Progress might not be uniform but people are catching on that you shouldn't punch down.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« on: September 17, 2021, 02:01:28 PM »
Recently finished Bloodborne and Sekiro.

The angriest, most tedious fun I have had in a long time.

Playing Cuphead rn, although I am nearly 50% done after several hours.

Got Demon's Souls today, looking forward to more angry fun.
My blood pressure spiked just from reading this.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« on: September 01, 2021, 06:06:40 PM »
Psychonauts 2

I'm so happy the sequel is finally here. It's just as quirky, comical, and fun as the first although this one deals with some heavier issues but also very wholesome themes on healing. It can be a bit laggy, but that's 100% forgivable since it's such a wonderful game.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 26, 2021, 08:10:50 PM »
The company I work for is requiring everyone be vaccinated before returning to the office (excepting people who can't based on medical or religious reasons). I just had to upload a pic of my vaccination card even though I've always been a full remote employee.

Makes me wonder how many other companies are doing the same.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 16, 2021, 02:37:18 AM »
Idk, "life has never been better" is also in the title. Sounds p lit tbh.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 15, 2021, 09:47:21 PM »
I think it fairly obvious they were transvestites. The idea that you can change your gender just by believing that you can, is ironically a very modern view. Not even 4500 years ago did they believe you could wish yourself the opposite sex and it would be so. They'd still put on a dress and pretend, but crucially the rest of society didn't pander to them.

"Call me not Lord, for I am a Lady." - Elagabalus

More about Elagabalus - "He carried his lewdness to such a point that he asked the physicians to contrive a woman's vagina in his body by means of an incision, promising them large sums for doing so." The three main contemporary sources for this person are pretty negatively biased because they disliked his religion and thought he was weird. So you can't go crying that some blue haired liberal wrote it.

But going into the topic of gender and what they truly identified with would be a lot more complicated discussion because we'd also need to fully understand how cultures of the past even viewed gender and/or sex and that's a huge undertaking. But overall, it's absolutely not new - just the way we talk about it now might be different.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 15, 2021, 09:22:03 PM »
Yup, so I just had a look for

"Sumerian and Akkadian texts from 4500 years ago document transgender or transvestite priests known as gala and by other names.

And being as transgender was invented in 1986, I cast some doubt on your 'transgender' individual from 4500 years ago. What is happening is that the left are trying to rewrite history again.
So essentially, "nuh uh! They didn't use this exact word in Sumeria and Akkadia!" Ya got me there.

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PS - I'm not accepting a wikipedia entry written by a blue-haired liberal arts student as a counter source for the hard data on word usage that I provided.
Wikipedia is a great place to start for someone who has no concept of the past outside of the bible. But you can get a free JSTOR subscription which will let you read up to 100 articles a month (during COVID).





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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 15, 2021, 08:52:04 PM »
I don't care how you identify.  ::) you hold liberal views ... you are a liberal. This entire identifying thing ... you don't do the identifying. Everyone else does. You don't get to tell me that you are a man, or a conservative or attractive. I make up my own mind on those things. You don't get to control how I think about you. And this authoritarian brow beating is why people hate you fucking liberals so much.
Whew, good thing I'm not a liberal then.

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I just looked up the history. The whole thing was fabricated in 2008 when Obama got in. It's a political movement. It has nothing to do with medicine.

"The term “gender dysphoria syndrome” was proposed in 1973, which includes transsexualism in addition to other gender identity disorders. Gender dysphoria is used to describe the resulting dissatisfaction of the conflict between gender identity and assigned sex."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1665579615000071#:~:text=The%20term%20%E2%80%9Cgender%20dysphoria%20syndrome,gender%20identity%20and%20assigned%20sex.

It's only recently that it's no longer considered a syndrome or disorder. But it's in no way a recent thing.

"Sumerian and Akkadian texts from 4500 years ago document transgender or transvestite priests known as gala and by other names. A grave of a possibly transgender person in Europe has been identified from 4500 years ago, and likely depictions occur in art around the Mediterranean from 9000 to 3700 years ago. In Ancient Greece, Phrygia, and Rome, there were galli priests that some scholars believe to have been trans women, and records of women who passed as men in order to vote, fight, or study during times when these things were forbidden for women. Roman emperor Elagabalus (d. 222) preferred to be called a lady (rather than a lord), sought sex reassignment surgery, and has been seen as an early trans figure. Hijras on the Indian subcontinent and kathoeys in Thailand have formed trans-feminine third gender social and spiritual communities since ancient times, with their presence documented for thousands of years in texts, which also mention trans male figures. Religious iconography in these cultures includes depictions of androgynous figures with bodies that are male on one side and female on the other, like Ardhanarishvara. Today, at least half a million hijras live in India and another half million in Bangladesh, legally recognized as a third gender, and many trans people are accepted in Thailand. In Arabia, khanith today (like earlier mukhannathun) fulfill a third gender role attested since the 600s. In Africa, many societies have traditional roles for trans women and trans men, some of which survive in the modern era amid recent widespread hostility. In the Americas prior to European colonization, as well as in some contemporary North American Indigenous cultures, there are social and ceremonial roles for third gender people, or those whose gender expression transforms, such as the Navajo nádleehi or the Zuni lhamana."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history

So weird how none of those dates say or refer to 2008.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 15, 2021, 07:32:25 PM »
Now I know you are going to squeal that it is a medical reason and that it is for gender dysmorphia, but it doesn't cure the patient.
I already did point out in my post that it is to treat gender dysphoria (not dysmorphia). Whether or not you like that doesn't matter.

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Are you defending female genital mutilation?
No

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So now that the liberals have what they want (the ability to mutilate vulnerable people because it makes them feel good), it is no longer up for debate. We can't make this predatory medical practice illegal?
Why is this a political matter? Constantly saying anyone who supports sex reassignment surgery is a liberal is incorrect, just look at Caitlyn Jenner. And also I'm not a liberal.

Until you come up with a better way to treat people that isn't already in place and is proven to work then what's the point in discussing it further? Since you have no medical experience, no ongoing academic or medical studies into gender dysphoria, and very little understanding of history and gender in general then it would just be your whiny opinions.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 15, 2021, 05:43:14 PM »
FGM is considered mutilation. That's not axe murderers. It is usually religious figures doing something vile as part of a ceremony. Much like doctors doing something vile as part of an unnecessary procedure.
Female genital mutilation (FGM), also known as female genital cutting (FGC) or just known as female circumcision.

The FGM is likely called what it is because "Female Genital Mutilation comprises all procedures involving the removal of the external female genitalia or other injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons." And because it's illegal in the States so we want it to sound terrible because words matter.

Transgender reassignment surgery is treatment for a medical condition - gender dysphoria.

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You can't keep shying away from conversations because you perceive someone might get upset. Your bank doesn't give a shit about upsetting you if you lose your job and can't pay your mortgage. They'll tell you straight. We're taking your home. We don't care how much that ruins your life. You will not be considered a victim and no one will defend you. But somehow "you are not going to be a woman but instead a mutilated man" is far worse. ??? What upside down liberal logic is this?
Who's shying away from a conversation? If the conversation is whether it should be considered an illegal mutilation then yeah I won't have that one with you because that's not the reality.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 15, 2021, 05:14:16 PM »
Mutilation has a connotation of violence though. Like "the axe murderer mutilated the person so it's going to be a closed casket funeral."

mu·ti·late
verb
inflict a violent and disfiguring injury on.

But it doesn't matter, I won't argue semantics about this anymore. It's incredibly rude to people who have gender reassignment surgeries but I know you're not concerned about that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 15, 2021, 04:18:07 PM »
In that way, I'm not sure that reassignment surgery and mutilating one's genitalia is appropriate.
Mutilating is absolutely the incorrect word. Surgery is not a violent disfigurement. No one says, "hi, I'd like to make an appointment for my breast mutilation."
Yeah, that is why so many live to regret the surgery later on, even utilizing the word, "mutilation," once time has passed.

Females do not feel mutilated and "less than" after a mastectomy.
Regretting a surgery does not make it mutilation. It makes it a surgery they regret. And regretting transitioning, while tragic, is not the topic at hand. The word mutilation for surgeries in this thread is only being used for outrage effect.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 15, 2021, 04:12:39 PM »
Yeah, and many other "non-essential," received theirs much the same.
Please tell me how non-essential people became richer.
They lost their jobs, which, in many cases, was their only access to medical insurance, but then got handed a few covidbucks and bidenbucks for their troubles
oh okay, I stand corrected then.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 15, 2021, 04:05:58 PM »
Yeah, and many other "non-essential," received theirs much the same.
Please tell me how non-essential people became richer.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 15, 2021, 02:10:25 PM »

You, along with the rest of the crew spewing your Henny Penny, idiotic nonsense, should have willingly stayed home of your free will and volition.

I would have got your groceries and delivered them to your doorstep, just to keep your ill conceived thought processes where they belong.
Did you deliver groceries then? I did stay home and have groceries delivered to me often. Maybe it was you delivering them, which is nice.

Has anyone said how covid actually gets us away from capitalism or did I miss that part? Because I remember corporations getting a lot of handouts during the lockdown. And-

"U.S. billionaires have gotten about $1.2 trillion richer during the pandemic."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 15, 2021, 01:38:06 AM »
Honestly, sounds great. Where do I sign? If I get more covid jabs can I make this happen faster?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 14, 2021, 08:47:17 PM »
I'm more inclined to think that world powers are trying to hoodwink us for some reason. It might have something to do with the "Great Reset" where they want to use Covid and climate change to implement universal communism on society.

Don't threaten me with a good time!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 04, 2021, 08:12:19 PM »
What if they haven't gone through male puberty?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: July 04, 2021, 06:50:12 PM »
If the IAAF says they can compete in middle distance running if they take something like hormonal contraceptives to lower their testosterone to <5 nmol/L then do you think it's fair to extend those same rules to transwomen?

And I would disagree about Michael Phelps's genetic advantage not having a big impact. He's won the most gold medals ever.

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