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« Reply #7220 on: November 26, 2020, 11:12:15 AM »
I think this could be workable. We just need to turn President into a meaningless, ceremonial position, and appoint Trump as... Prime Minister? Lord Protector? Supreme Leader?

How about just plain old fashioned, King? Regalia to include crown, scepter, the frilly over-the-shoulders pashmina thing. And call it a day?
Someone who in theory has a lot of power but in practice has basically none.
I like it. And Tom et al can continue to doff their caps at him and hang on his every word, but he won't have any actual power to do any more crazy shit. Perfect.
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« Reply #7221 on: November 26, 2020, 01:24:57 PM »
Let’s just make him The Dude and serve everyone screwdrivers.

White Russians.

More accurate to the movie AND way funnier given, well....everything

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« Reply #7222 on: November 26, 2020, 03:27:13 PM »
AS promised, The KRAKEN has been released in Georgia and Michigan.  Crack crack the Cheating DEMS !  May you all burn in hell as we take back our Country and Election.

Crack Crack Kraken   TRUMP is and will continue to be President by a LANDSLIDE !!!

Attorney Sidney Powell Files 104 Page BOMBSHELL COMPLAINT of Massive Fraud in Georgia Election

 https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-kraken-released-attorney-sidney-powell-files-104-page-bombshell-complain-massive-fraud-georgia-election/

In Georgia, Powell claims in a 104-page complaint filed in the US District Court in Atlanta that the purpose of the scheme was "illegally and fraudulently manipulating the vote count to make certain the election of Joe Biden as president of the United States."

"Old-fashioned ballot-stuffing" has been "amplified and rendered virtually invisible by computer software created and run by domestic and foreign actors for that very purpose," the suit continues, adding that "Mathematical and statistical anomalies rising to the level of impossibilities, as shown by affidavits of multiple witnesses, documentation, and expert testimony evince this scheme across the state of Georgia."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fraud-was-executed-many-means-sidney-powell-releases-kraken-dual-lawsuits-michigan



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« Reply #7223 on: November 26, 2020, 03:33:11 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331404288149643264?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Well apparently as gullible as Republicans in general seem to be, Newsmax has managed to grab the most gullible among them for their audience; a staggering 99% are living in Trump Fantasyland according to a poll from their organization that he cites in this tweet.

Zombies unite for Trump!

NO ONE unites for sleepy Joe....Jokers who believe he's a Pres. elect

"Joe Biden Gets Only 1,000 Viewers to Watch His Thanksgiving Address Live — But He Got 80 Million Votes? — What a COMPLETE JOKE!"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/joe-biden-gets-1000-viewers-watch-thanksgiving-address-live-got-80-million-votes-hah-complete-joke/
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« Reply #7224 on: November 26, 2020, 03:39:12 PM »
More proof DEMS CHEAT....Losers like the handout handi's , $ + Free Turkey for the Turkeys !

"BOOM! Unsupervised Election Workers Messed with Voting Machines in Georgia After False Claim of Water Main Break Sent People Home – ALL CAUGHT ON VIDEO"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-unsupervised-election-workers-messed-voting-machines-false-claim-water-pipe-break-georgia-sent-people-home-caught-video/
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« Reply #7225 on: November 26, 2020, 04:37:48 PM »
More proof DEMS CHEAT....Losers like the handout handi's , $ + Free Turkey for the Turkeys !

"BOOM! Unsupervised Election Workers Messed with Voting Machines in Georgia After False Claim of Water Main Break Sent People Home – ALL CAUGHT ON VIDEO"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-unsupervised-election-workers-messed-voting-machines-false-claim-water-pipe-break-georgia-sent-people-home-caught-video/

Have you READ your link?

1. No video is shown.  Sad.
2. The 104 page complaint contradicts the website's own story.

The compalint states that voting stopped at 10PM on election night due to the water main break.
But according to the same site:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-open-records-request-finds-no-invoices-work-orders-reported-election-day-water-main-break-atlanta-found/

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According to officials, a water main break at State Farm Arena caused a pipe to burst. The burst pipe was discovered around 6 a.m. Counting of the ballots began at 11 a.m.
So which is it?  10PM on Nov. 3 or 6am on Nov 4?
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« Reply #7226 on: November 26, 2020, 04:58:24 PM »
dave try to follow along alot of moving parts..i know hard for someone who was so bent with anti-trumped
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« Reply #7227 on: November 26, 2020, 05:05:18 PM »
dave try to follow along alot of moving parts..i know hard for someone who was so bent with anti-trumped

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I point out conflicting information and you claim 'alot of moving parts'?
Pretend I'm a child and explain how a water main break at 6am stopped voting at 10pm the night before.
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« Reply #7228 on: November 26, 2020, 06:06:02 PM »
dave try to follow along alot of moving parts..i know hard for someone who was so bent with anti-trumped

This just gets zanier by the day. I just finished skimming the Powell doc. There is literally no evidence of fraud in it. Anywhere. None. It goes on and on about statistical analyses, how Dominion could be hacked, etc. But no evidence. There's not even evidence of how it could be hacked. Just some mention of some guy saying with a thumb drive and a screwdriver, he could hack a machine...

There's no bombshell, just more of the same. E.g., someone saying that a stack of ballots had a different "feel" than others. And they were 98% for Biden...etc.

It's all the same stuff Tucker was saying, "where's the evidence" about. Only bundled up into one document. And if you folks think this is actually the kraken bombshell, that's just downright embarrassing. If this is the strongest piece Trump has then this election really is over and we'll see Joe standing at the podium on 1/20, 150% guaranteed. Wow, yeah, embarrassing.

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« Reply #7229 on: November 26, 2020, 06:16:28 PM »
So, in brief...

https://newsthump.com/2020/11/24/dead-kraken-washes-up-on-new-jersey-coast/

No wonder even Trump’s team have distanced themselves from her wild rambling.
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« Reply #7230 on: November 26, 2020, 07:04:38 PM »
dave try to follow along alot of moving parts..i know hard for someone who was so bent with anti-trumped

This just gets zanier by the day. I just finished skimming the Powell doc. There is literally no evidence of fraud in it. Anywhere. None. It goes on and on about statistical analyses, how Dominion could be hacked, etc. But no evidence. There's not even evidence of how it could be hacked. Just some mention of some guy saying with a thumb drive and a screwdriver, he could hack a machine...

There's no bombshell, just more of the same. E.g., someone saying that a stack of ballots had a different "feel" than others. And they were 98% for Biden...etc.

It's all the same stuff Tucker was saying, "where's the evidence" about. Only bundled up into one document. And if you folks think this is actually the kraken bombshell, that's just downright embarrassing. If this is the strongest piece Trump has then this election really is over and we'll see Joe standing at the podium on 1/20, 150% guaranteed. Wow, yeah, embarrassing.

Incorrect. Affidavits are evidence.



It's also not a criminal court. Powell just needs to show preponderance of evidence to get the ball rolling, not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
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« Reply #7231 on: November 26, 2020, 07:13:08 PM »
dave try to follow along alot of moving parts..i know hard for someone who was so bent with anti-trumped

This just gets zanier by the day. I just finished skimming the Powell doc. There is literally no evidence of fraud in it. Anywhere. None. It goes on and on about statistical analyses, how Dominion could be hacked, etc. But no evidence. There's not even evidence of how it could be hacked. Just some mention of some guy saying with a thumb drive and a screwdriver, he could hack a machine...

There's no bombshell, just more of the same. E.g., someone saying that a stack of ballots had a different "feel" than others. And they were 98% for Biden...etc.

It's all the same stuff Tucker was saying, "where's the evidence" about. Only bundled up into one document. And if you folks think this is actually the kraken bombshell, that's just downright embarrassing. If this is the strongest piece Trump has then this election really is over and we'll see Joe standing at the podium on 1/20, 150% guaranteed. Wow, yeah, embarrassing.

Wrong. Affidavits are evidence.



Great, I'm more than willing to be wrong, because, semantics aside, if this is THE evidence, like I said, it's embarrassing, at best.

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« Reply #7232 on: November 26, 2020, 07:16:44 PM »
Summary:

https://wentworthreport.com/2020/11/26/attorney-sidney-powell-files-104-page-bombshell-complaint-of-massive-fraud-in-georgia/

"Sidney Powell Files Complaint of Massive Fraud in Georgia. From the complaint, which is surprisingly readable:

    As a civil action, the plaintiff’s burden of proof is a “preponderance of the evidence” to show, as the Georgia Supreme Court has made clear that, “it was not incumbent upon -Plaintiff- to show how the .. voters would have voted if their -absentee- ballots had been regular. -Plaintiff- only had to show that there were enough irregular ballots to place in doubt the result.” …

    The fraud was executed by many means, but the most fundamentally troubling, insidious, and egregious is the systemic adaptation of old-fashioned “ballot-stuffing.” It has now been amplified and rendered virtually invisible by computer software created and run by domestic and foreign actors for that very purpose. Mathematical and statistical anomalies rising to the level of impossibilities, as shown by affidavits of multiple witnesses, documentation, and expert testimony evince this scheme across the state of Georgia. … This scheme and artifice to defraud affected tens of thousands of votes in Georgia alone and “rigged” the election in Georgia for Joe Biden.

Machines designed to cheat:

    The massive fraud begins with the election software and hardware from Dominion Voting Systems Corporation (“Dominion”) only recently purchased and rushed into use by Defendants Governor Brian Kemp, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and the Georgia Board of Elections. …

    A core requirement of the Smartmatic software design was the software’s ability to hide its manipulation of votes from any audit. As the whistleblower explains:

    “Chavez was most insistent that Smartmatic design the system in a way that the system could change the vote of each voter without being detected. He wanted the software itself to function in such a manner that if the voter were to place their thumb print or fingerprint on a scanner, then the thumbprint would be tied to a record of the voter’s name and identity as having voted, but that voter would not be tracked to the changed vote. He made it clear that the system would have to be setup to not leave any evidence of the changed vote for a specific voter and that there would be no evidence to show and nothing to contradict that the name or the fingerprint or thumb print was going with a changed vote. …

    The design and features of the Dominion software do not permit a simple audit to reveal its misallocation, redistribution, or deletion of votes. First, the system’s central accumulator does not include a protected real-time audit log that maintains the date and time stamps of all significant election events. Key components of the system utilize unprotected logs. Essentially this allows an unauthorized user the opportunity to arbitrarily add, modify, or remove log entries, causing the machine to log election events that do not reflect actual voting tabulations — or more specifically, do not reflect the actual votes of or the will of the people.

    Indeed, under the professional standards within the industry in auditing and forensic analysis, when a log is unprotected, and can be altered, it can no longer serve the purpose of an audit log. There is incontrovertible physical evidence that the standards of physical security of the voting machines and the software were breached, and machines were connected to the internet in violation of professional standards and state and federal laws. …

China and Iran:

    As explained and demonstrated in the accompanying redacted declaration of a former electronic intelligence analyst under 305th Military Intelligence with experience gathering SAM missile system electronic intelligence, the Dominion software was accessed by agents acting on behalf of China and Iran in order to monitor and manipulate elections, including the most recent US general election in 2020. …

US intelligence can hack elections, and this one was hacked:

    Expert Navid Keshavarez-Nia explains that US intelligence services had developed tools to infiltrate foreign voting systems including Dominion. …

    He concludes that hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump in the 2020 general election were transferred to former Vice-President Biden.

Absentee ballots:

    Additionally, incontrovertible evidence Board of Elections records demonstrates that at least 96,600 absentee ballots were requested and counted but were never recorded as being returned to county election boards by the voter. Thus, at a minimum, 96,600 votes must be disregarded. …

The software aids fraud, and ballot stuffing:

    The Dominion system used in Georgia erodes and undermines the reconciliation of the number of voters and the number of ballots cast, such that these figures are permitted to be unreconciled, opening the door to ballot stuffing and fraud. …

    Election officials failed to verify signatures and check security envelopes. They barred challengers from observing the count, which also facilitated the fraud …

    Plaintiffs can show that Democrat-majority counties provided political parties and candidates, including the Trump Campaign, no meaningful access or actual opportunity to review and assess the validity of mail-in ballots during the pre-canvassing meetings. While in the audit or recount, they witnessed Trump votes being put into Biden piles. …

    It was further reported in 2019 that the new Dominion Voting Machines in Georgia “with Georgia’s current voting system, there’s no way to guarantee that electronic ballots accurately reflect the choices of voters because there’s no paper backup to verify results, with it being reported that: (a) Recounts are meaningless on the direct recording electronic voting machines because they simply reproduce the same numbers they originally generated. …

Requested remedies include:

        An order directing Governor Kemp, Secretary Raffensperger and the Georgia State Board of Elections to de-certify the election results;
        An order enjoining Governor Kemp from transmitting the currently certified election results to the Electoral College;
        An order requiring Governor Kemp to transmit certified election results that state that President Donald Trump is the winner of the election;
        An immediate order to impound all the voting machines and software in Georgia for expert inspection by the Plaintiffs.
        An order that no votes received or tabulated by machines that were not certified as required by federal and state law be counted. …

Yep, that would seem to qualify as a legal Kraken. It’s been 23 days since the election, so that was pretty fast work."
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« Reply #7233 on: November 26, 2020, 07:33:49 PM »
dave try to follow along alot of moving parts..i know hard for someone who was so bent with anti-trumped

This just gets zanier by the day. I just finished skimming the Powell doc. There is literally no evidence of fraud in it. Anywhere. None. It goes on and on about statistical analyses, how Dominion could be hacked, etc. But no evidence. There's not even evidence of how it could be hacked. Just some mention of some guy saying with a thumb drive and a screwdriver, he could hack a machine...

There's no bombshell, just more of the same. E.g., someone saying that a stack of ballots had a different "feel" than others. And they were 98% for Biden...etc.

It's all the same stuff Tucker was saying, "where's the evidence" about. Only bundled up into one document. And if you folks think this is actually the kraken bombshell, that's just downright embarrassing. If this is the strongest piece Trump has then this election really is over and we'll see Joe standing at the podium on 1/20, 150% guaranteed. Wow, yeah, embarrassing.

Incorrect. Affidavits are evidence.



It's also not a criminal court. Powell just needs to show preponderance of evidence to get the ball rolling, not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
Yep.  And as we all know, no one has ever lied in official documentation.  Its simply impossible.

Also, why is this even needed?  Don't you have MASSIVE fraud evidence?  You've shown more evidence than her and yet they're going small?  This should be hitting the Supreme Court of the United States of America!

So why not?

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(A bunch of stuff Tom posted)

1. If the machines were ballot stuffing, and Trump was winning after the machine count but BEFORE the absentee ballot count.... doesn't that mean TRUMP was ballot stuffing?
2. If 96,000 absentee ballots never arrived to the board of elections to be counted, then why would you need to disregard 96,000 ballots?  That makes no sense. 

If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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« Reply #7234 on: November 26, 2020, 07:58:28 PM »
Yes the hand recount of ballots in Georgia somehow matched the fraudulent voting machines. The only major variance being the 2,600 votes found uncounted that went for Trump 2:1. Sydney Powell is a genius even if spellchecking is beyond her capabilities.

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« Reply #7235 on: November 26, 2020, 08:18:02 PM »
Incorrect. Affidavits are evidence.

Well, they are. But not all evidence is created equal. I mean, this is how they got on in court with some affidavits in a previous case:

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"What I have, at best, is a hearsay affidavit," said [Judge Cynthia D.] Stephens, who was appointed by then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat. "If there is something in that affidavit that would indicate that the [witness] observed activity that would be a depravation of the rights of poll watchers, I want you to please focus my attention on that. ... 'I heard somebody else say something.' Tell me why that's not hearsay. Come on now."

So...
Right now it feels more crackpot than Kraken, the stuff she’s claiming is so “out there” that even Trump’s campaign have distanced themselves from it. But I guess she’ll have her day in court so we’ll see how she gets on.
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« Reply #7236 on: November 26, 2020, 08:39:58 PM »
Incorrect. Affidavits are evidence.

Well, they are. But not all evidence is created equal. I mean, this is how they got on in court with some affidavits in a previous case:

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"What I have, at best, is a hearsay affidavit," said [Judge Cynthia D.] Stephens, who was appointed by then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat. "If there is something in that affidavit that would indicate that the [witness] observed activity that would be a depravation of the rights of poll watchers, I want you to please focus my attention on that. ... 'I heard somebody else say something.' Tell me why that's not hearsay. Come on now."

So...
Right now it feels more crackpot than Kraken, the stuff she’s claiming is so “out there” that even Trump’s campaign have distanced themselves from it. But I guess she’ll have her day in court so we’ll see how she gets on.

How many of these lying dems are going to squeal like pigs once they are deposed with potentially decades in prison for voter fraud? Sorry this thing blew up for the Deep State and these low level clowns who thought they were secure.... Trump knew this was coming and so should have AG Barr
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« Reply #7237 on: November 26, 2020, 09:03:10 PM »
Incorrect. Affidavits are evidence.

Well, they are. But not all evidence is created equal. I mean, this is how they got on in court with some affidavits in a previous case:

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"What I have, at best, is a hearsay affidavit," said [Judge Cynthia D.] Stephens, who was appointed by then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat. "If there is something in that affidavit that would indicate that the [witness] observed activity that would be a depravation of the rights of poll watchers, I want you to please focus my attention on that. ... 'I heard somebody else say something.' Tell me why that's not hearsay. Come on now."

So...
Right now it feels more crackpot than Kraken, the stuff she’s claiming is so “out there” that even Trump’s campaign have distanced themselves from it. But I guess she’ll have her day in court so we’ll see how she gets on.

How many of these lying dems are going to squeal like pigs once they are deposed with potentially decades in prison for voter fraud? Sorry this thing blew up for the Deep State and these low level clowns who thought they were secure.... Trump knew this was coming and so should have AG Barr

So a republication governor and a republican senator rush the purchase of dominion voting machines...and this is evidence of deep state Dems diligently doing dodgy, dirty deeds?

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« Reply #7238 on: November 26, 2020, 09:05:44 PM »
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
My friends, please remember Tom said this the next time you fall into the trap of engaging him, and thank you. :)

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7239 on: November 26, 2020, 11:44:14 PM »
Man, Trump's Thanksgiving remarks are so fucking brutal.