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Re: Trump
« Reply #7280 on: November 29, 2020, 06:18:20 PM »
Big news! Wisconsin recount does find problems with the original result!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/wisconsin-recount-trump-biden-election-b1763572.html

...Biden actually won by slightly more than they thought.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7281 on: November 29, 2020, 06:49:03 PM »
Recount only recounts what they already counted and looks for issues with the counting process. It's not an audit for fraud.

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« Reply #7282 on: November 29, 2020, 06:55:09 PM »
Recount only recounts what they already counted and looks for issues with the counting process. It's not an audit for fraud.

Trump’s problems get more and more insurmountable.

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« Reply #7283 on: November 29, 2020, 07:09:55 PM »
Recount only recounts what they already counted and looks for issues with the counting process. It's not an audit for fraud.
Indeed. If only they were presenting evidence of fraud in court rather than in embarrassing press conferences and on Twitter.
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« Reply #7284 on: November 29, 2020, 08:09:13 PM »
Recount only recounts what they already counted and looks for issues with the counting process. It's not an audit for fraud.

...sounds like a big waste of 3 million dollars.

Of course, wasting millions of other people's dollars is one of Trumps superpowers.
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« Reply #7285 on: November 29, 2020, 09:20:24 PM »
Recount only recounts what they already counted and looks for issues with the counting process. It's not an audit for fraud.

What ever happened to those water marked ballots that Trump ensured everyone had?  Shouldn't that prove which ballots are legal and which are not?
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« Reply #7286 on: November 29, 2020, 09:22:27 PM »
Recount only recounts what they already counted and looks for issues with the counting process. It's not an audit for fraud.

What ever happened to those water marked ballots that Trump ensured everyone had?  Shouldn't that prove which ballots are legal and which are not?

Lolz. Oh yeah, forgot about that. All that nonsense about what a genius Trump was and how he'd done this massive "gotcha".
But then they just moved on to the next conspiracy theory and forgot all about it.
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« Reply #7287 on: November 29, 2020, 09:38:31 PM »
Recount only recounts what they already counted and looks for issues with the counting process. It's not an audit for fraud.

What ever happened to those water marked ballots that Trump ensured everyone had?  Shouldn't that prove which ballots are legal and which are not?

What about it? Ballots have watermarks. I provided a source on that and you guys were unable to contradict that source.

The state has the ballots. Trump does not. It's going through a process and appropriate legal channels to audit or declare the ballots null. Unless you are suggesting that Trump raids their offices and obtains the ballots, I don't see what you expect to happen.

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« Reply #7288 on: November 29, 2020, 09:49:23 PM »
Recount only recounts what they already counted and looks for issues with the counting process. It's not an audit for fraud.

What ever happened to those water marked ballots that Trump ensured everyone had?  Shouldn't that prove which ballots are legal and which are not?

What about it? Ballots have watermarks. I provided a source on that and you guys were unable to contradict that source.

The state has the ballots. Trump does not. It's going through a process and appropriate legal channels to audit or declare the ballots null. Unless you are suggesting that Trump raids their offices and obtains the ballots, I don't see what you expect to happen.

So the states aren't checking to ensure all ballots are the special watermarked ones, or are you saying they don't know about it?
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« Reply #7289 on: November 29, 2020, 10:07:29 PM »
They know that there are watermarks. It's going through a process. The state controls the ballots, not Trump.

Today in GA a judge ordered the voting machines to be preserved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333136893899399168

"Emergency Order just entered by Judge Timothy C. Batten, Sr.:

'Defendants are ordered to maintain the statue quo & are temporarily enjoined from wiping or resetting any voting machines in the State of Georgia until further order of the Court.'"

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« Reply #7290 on: November 29, 2020, 10:09:57 PM »
They know that there are watermarks. It's going through a process. The state controls the ballots, not Trump.

Today in GA a judge ordered the voting machines to be preserved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333136893899399168

"Emergency Order just entered by Judge Timothy C. Batten, Sr.:

'Defendants are ordered to maintain the statue quo & are temporarily enjoined from wiping or resetting any voting machines in the State of Georgia until further order of the Court.'"

Oh no. They might find out the ballots match the machines! Unless you expect the accord between the machine count and the hand recount as part of their audit to be exposed as a super duper deep state plot?

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« Reply #7291 on: November 29, 2020, 10:11:03 PM »
They know that there are watermarks. It's going through a process. The state controls the ballots, not Trump.

Today in GA a judge ordered the voting machines to be preserved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333136893899399168

"Emergency Order just entered by Judge Timothy C. Batten, Sr.:

'Defendants are ordered to maintain the statue quo & are temporarily enjoined from wiping or resetting any voting machines in the State of Georgia until further order of the Court.'"

So why wasn't this check done during the initial OR recount?  Seems kinda silly to me.  Just wasting time.
(Also doesn't each county control the ballots, not the state?)
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« Reply #7292 on: November 29, 2020, 10:23:19 PM »
They know that there are watermarks. It's going through a process. The state controls the ballots, not Trump.

Today in GA a judge ordered the voting machines to be preserved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333136893899399168

"Emergency Order just entered by Judge Timothy C. Batten, Sr.:

'Defendants are ordered to maintain the statue quo & are temporarily enjoined from wiping or resetting any voting machines in the State of Georgia until further order of the Court.'"

So why wasn't this check done during the initial OR recount?  Seems kinda silly to me.  Just wasting time.
(Also doesn't each county control the ballots, not the state?)

The states are reluctant to check the watermarks or the signatures.

In the WI recount the recount observers pointed out that questionablr ballots were being counted and they did nothing: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-thousands-fake-votes-found-wisconsin-recount-dane-county-photos-report-gop-observer/
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« Reply #7293 on: November 29, 2020, 10:36:03 PM »
The states are reluctant to chack the watermarks or the signatures.

You have previously complained about people posting from "left wing sources" - which isn't entirely true, even Fox and Tucker Carlson are calling Trump's team out on their complete bullshit.
And yet you happily post unreliable right wing sources when it suits your agenda

https://www.newsguardtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/The-Gateway-Pundit-NewsGuard-Nutrition-Label.pdf
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« Reply #7294 on: November 30, 2020, 02:33:12 AM »
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7295 on: November 30, 2020, 02:34:34 AM »
It's a good thing the whole scandal around Dominion voting machines has already been debunked. Discrediting discredited.
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
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« Reply #7296 on: November 30, 2020, 02:53:41 AM »
Using Dominion as your discreditor is a discredit to discrediting.

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« Reply #7297 on: November 30, 2020, 03:40:56 AM »
It's a good thing the whole scandal around Dominion voting machines has already been debunked. Discrediting discredited.
Using Dominion as your discreditor is a discredit to discrediting.

Wait, wait, so this means that the original discrediting that was discredited was recredited by the discrediting? or discredited by the recrediting?

This could be headed for the lower forums.

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« Reply #7298 on: November 30, 2020, 03:54:09 AM »
So the long con for the Georgia runoff is for Dominion to be discredited without evidence yet scaring away Repub voters thereby giving the Dems a Senate majority victory much like the Repubs scared off themselves by being told mail-in ballots were dubious and a potential for fraud? If all is true, I kind of am embracing the the conniving Dem plot, however convoluted, decidedly brilliant. That's who I want in charge of the New World Order. The craftiest of the craftiest. I think the Kraken is actually a Dem.

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« Reply #7299 on: November 30, 2020, 05:09:19 AM »
They know that there are watermarks. It's going through a process. The state controls the ballots, not Trump.

Today in GA a judge ordered the voting machines to be preserved.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333136893899399168

"Emergency Order just entered by Judge Timothy C. Batten, Sr.:

'Defendants are ordered to maintain the statue quo & are temporarily enjoined from wiping or resetting any voting machines in the State of Georgia until further order of the Court.'"

So why wasn't this check done during the initial OR recount?  Seems kinda silly to me.  Just wasting time.
(Also doesn't each county control the ballots, not the state?)

The states are reluctant to check the watermarks or the signatures.

In the WI recount the recount observers pointed out that questionablr ballots were being counted and they did nothing: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-thousands-fake-votes-found-wisconsin-recount-dane-county-photos-report-gop-observer/
Why?
Why are states reluctant?  Especially onces controlled by republicans, like Georgia?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.