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« Reply #660 on: November 30, 2017, 02:00:09 PM »
I love how marvel seem to be taking pleasure in showing up DC nowadays. BvS:DoJ came out basically the same time as Civil War, a film with a very similar Hero v Hero premise but - you know - good. Now Marvel has let them release their big tent-pole Justice league movie and just as it's getting torn apart by critics, casually releases the trailer for Infinity War. It's almost cruel.

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« Reply #661 on: November 30, 2017, 05:49:15 PM »
Almost, until you realize DC has thrown almost a billion dollars in to producing movies that should be milediocre without trying that hard. Somehow their level of incompetence is so high that they can’t make Batman fighting Superman any good. I don’t get it. Disney should just buy DC as well and make good movies for them.
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« Reply #662 on: November 30, 2017, 06:38:45 PM »
You think WB is selling?
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« Reply #663 on: November 30, 2017, 09:25:22 PM »
You think WB is selling?

If the price is right why not? 
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« Reply #664 on: December 01, 2017, 03:16:41 PM »
DC makes WB (or Time Warner in general, whatever) a lot of money even without the movies. TV shows, video games, merchandising, etc. They almost certainly won't even license out the film rights, just because the possibility of turning it into a box office juggernaut still exists. Just look at Fox still stubbornly clinging onto the Fantastic Four rights.
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« Reply #665 on: December 01, 2017, 04:03:52 PM »
DC makes WB (or Time Warner in general, whatever) a lot of money even without the movies. TV shows, video games, merchandising, etc. They almost certainly won't even license out the film rights, just because the possibility of turning it into a box office juggernaut still exists. Just look at Fox still stubbornly clinging onto the Fantastic Four rights.

Plus they had Wonderwoman.  It proves they CAN have a hit, if they copy Marvel from the start.

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« Reply #666 on: December 01, 2017, 06:05:28 PM »
If it were me, I would cut Snyder loose. That should solve a bunch of their problems right away. Next is directing their development execs to chill the fuck out.
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« Reply #667 on: December 02, 2017, 03:16:08 PM »
DC makes WB (or Time Warner in general, whatever) a lot of money even without the movies. TV shows, video games, merchandising, etc. They almost certainly won't even license out the film rights, just because the possibility of turning it into a box office juggernaut still exists. Just look at Fox still stubbornly clinging onto the Fantastic Four rights.

Plus they had Wonderwoman.  It proves they CAN have a hit, if they copy Marvel from the start.

They really didn't copy Marvel. They just made a solid, self-contained movie that was neither drowning in grimdark nihilism nor up its own ass about how clever it supposedly was. Also:

https://www.thewrap.com/justice-league-zack-snyder-batman-v-superman-wonder-woman/

The time I would have lol'd at this has passed. It's just sad now.
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« Reply #668 on: December 02, 2017, 03:31:22 PM »
It's not funny but it makes for a more interesting and entertaining saga than any of their movies. It's like a long, slow train wreck.

I didn't even know about Cavill's digitally altered face. How embarrassing.

Have they considered rebooting everything ( except maybe Wonder Woman, which they could get away with without it being weird since her movies stand on their own)? Just scrapping what they've done and starting over? Or do they feel they've invested too much in the"story" so far for that to be feasible?
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« Reply #669 on: December 05, 2017, 04:55:43 AM »
If they were too stubborn to fire Snyder after BvS, then no, they're almost certainly not seriously considering rebooting the franchise. I'm not sure I really want them to at this point, though. If something in a previous movie stops them from telling a good story now, they can just quietly retcon it. I think they already have, actually. A minor issue that I had with BvS, one that I haven't talked about here before, is the in-universe public perception of Batman. This dude has been operating for twenty years in Gotham, he's a seasoned veteran who's already fought some of his worst enemies, there's even a Batsignal - and yet the police are openly hostile towards him, the papers report on him like this is the first time they've ever heard of him, and the public see him as something of an urban legend. It doesn't make sense. You can't have a veteran Batman who's still in the phase of his career where he's making a splash and shaking up the establishment. And I honestly think that Snyder and/or Goyer took this approach because they wanted to have an "edgy" Batman who clashed with the police instead of helping them out, and also because Batman was frequently in conflict with the police in TDKR too (albeit for very different reasons).

It was a dumb idea, and one that JL pivots away from immediately. Far from being hunted in dreary warehouses by trigger-happy cops, Batman is well known to the Gotham police and has his traditional relationship with Gordon. It's a much better interpretation than, well, this:

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« Reply #670 on: December 05, 2017, 07:12:10 PM »
I'll never not love that scene.
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« Reply #671 on: December 05, 2017, 11:57:27 PM »
I'll never not love that scene.

Yeah. It’s the most primal I have ever seen Batman depicted. I love it.
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« Reply #672 on: December 06, 2017, 09:39:05 PM »
He looks retarded. He's so big (or the room is so small) that clinging to the corner isn't even hiding him at all. He might as well have just been standing right there.
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« Reply #673 on: December 07, 2017, 09:18:54 AM »
He looks retarded. He's so big (or the room is so small) that clinging to the corner isn't even hiding him at all. He might as well have just been standing right there.

Yeah, it's like they wanted to do the awesome gargoyle-swinging bits from the Arkham games but the room  with the high roofs and criss-crossing girders wasn't available so they had to settle for this.

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« Reply #674 on: December 08, 2017, 12:53:15 AM »
I went to see Justice League and it was not as bad as I expected.  I agree now that that gif of the Flash was as bad as it was made out to be, but other than that, and the first video of superman, I had no issues with the CG.  I generally liked the story as a popcorn movie quality movie, and there was a lot of moments that I exceeded my expectations.  I thought all of the story with superman was good, and particularly the moments with Lois Lane, and the fight with the rest of the JL.  I really disliked the Flash.  He was badly written and badly acted, but everyone else did well.  Overall, I think it probably warranted the Rotten Tomatoes rating it received: 40% from critics, 81% from audience.  It makes me think a reboot is unnecessary and that they can right the ship with future projects.
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« Reply #675 on: December 08, 2017, 04:44:01 AM »
Yeah, it's like they wanted to do the awesome gargoyle-swinging bits from the Arkham games but the room  with the high roofs and criss-crossing girders wasn't available so they had to settle for this.

Dull settings are more realistic, after all.

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Warner Bros.’ corporate leaders at Time Warner support the moves and are said to be unhappy with the financial performance of [JL]...With a budget reported to be as high as $300 million, it represents an expensive bet. After three weeks of release, it has managed to gross $570.3 million worldwide. In contrast, the first “Avengers” film racked up $1.5 billion.

Yeah, I'd be unhappy with that too.

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WB's faith in Snyder continues to perplex. Somehow they must have got it in their heads that he was the next best thing to Nolan and deserved just as much artistic freedom with a franchise potentially worth billions as him. I won't begrudge him getting the job for MoS (although I personally wasn't in favor of it), but they absolutely should have replaced him in the face of that movie's relative underperformance and mixed critical reception.

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Fresh talent, and also a face that won't remind viewers of the two shitty movies leading into this one. Or maybe Reeves just wants to tell one of the countless Batman stories that could only have taken place earlier in his career. It's almost as if introducing Batman with a story that was always meant to indicate the end of his career was a really stupid idea!
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« Reply #676 on: December 08, 2017, 01:55:08 PM »
If they recast batman, they will have to reboot the whole thing and that will suck. I can’t believe that WB wants to keep on with these movies. I can’t believe Snyder wants to keep on with these movies. There must be some seriously out of control egos steering their respective ships. Either that or Snyder has blackmailed someone?
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« Reply #677 on: December 09, 2017, 01:30:37 AM »
There was a brief rumour that Jake Gyllenhaal would be Batman in Matt Reeves' movie(s?) and I think that's the only casting choice I'd be gung-ho for, because Jake Gyllenhaal.
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« Reply #678 on: December 09, 2017, 05:53:56 PM »
There was a brief rumour that Jake Gyllenhaal would be Batman in Matt Reeves' movie(s?) and I think that's the only casting choice I'd be gung-ho for, because Jake Gyllenhaal.

I like my Bruce Wayne’s waspier than Jake.
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« Reply #679 on: December 09, 2017, 06:16:14 PM »
That's fine, in this case I'm talking about myself when I say "I".
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