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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political Musings
« Last post by Rushy on Today at 05:02:22 PM »
I'm guessing you mean Yeltsin?

Woops, yes. For some reason I keep thinking it was Gorbachev himself.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political Musings
« Last post by Snupes on Today at 04:55:00 PM »
I'm guessing you mean Yeltsin?
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Flat Earth Community / Meetups
« Last post by squid on Today at 04:42:04 PM »
Hey, how have the meetups been going?
How many people attend?
Are they fun?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political Musings
« Last post by Rushy on Today at 03:56:59 PM »
In your red-square wonderland, the government has already taken your $600 in taxes because "from each according to his ability, comrade." You had the ability to pay $600 and decided not to do that. Pretty key difference between free market corporatism and governments here.

lolol yep this is exactly how that works; local communist government calculates how much it takes to buy one of everything, then sends you a bill for that amount.

Actually it's the opposite problem, the local communist government doesn't really know how an economy works, so they take nearly all of your money and piss it all away or line their own pockets. This is why the middle class didn't actually exist in communist and socialist nations. You had the very, very rich (the government elites) and the extremely poor people who get taxed 90% of their income because they're a good comrade. In that red square, you don't get to have the choice on whether or not to get your phone fixed for $600, because you don't have $600, and you certainly don't have an $800 phone.

The classic example of Gorbachev visiting an American supermarket comes to mind.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is beyond the ice wall?
« Last post by BillO on Today at 03:21:27 PM »
I can start out at america and go west and wind up in china and I can also start in america and swipe east and wind up in china.


Kind of like in pac man you can go west and wind up on the east side and you can go east and wind up on the east side.

So, is it the same China you reach going west as it would be going east, or are you on a different 'world'  on this infinitely repeating plain?
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So i got a couple questions for you, after i have read a lot of your wiki but there is some things i would like to have further explained, before i can subscribe to this theory.
  • Gravity/accelerating earth plane
So your explanation for gravity, where the Earth is constantly accelerating upwards with an acceleration of 9.8 m/s2 makes decent sense, until you begin to consider that gravity is different on different places on earth, and at different heights as well? How is this explained, since it doesn't seem possible to me that different parts of the Earth plane is accelerating at different speeds, and this argument can't even be used to explained the difference in gravity when talking height difference.
Here i am referring to this:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_doesn.27t_gravity_pull_the_earth_into_a_spherical_shape.3F
  • Day and night
I understand how the sound is going around in circles on the plane, but what i don't understand is what forces cause the sun to move around in this circle above Earth? And why doesn't the light extend further out than it does? I mean if you placed a big spherical bulb above Earth the light would extend outwards and should reach all of Earth. Why does it only reach the small round place on Earth where it is day?
In the FAQ you just say that the sun acts as a spotlight but no explanation is made to how this works.
Found here:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_you_explain_day.2Fnight_cycles_and_seasons.3F
  • Occams razor - Centripetal acceleration
So this is just a critic of this specific point in one of the Occams razor arguments. It is said that we should be able to feel the centripetal acceleration. But this just isn't true as the centripetal force is so small compared to gravity. And these two forces act in opposite directions, so in reality this only makes you feel less gravity, but by a very small magnitude.
Source: http://physicstasks.eu/929/centrifugal-force-on-the-equator

And i am here referring to the second last paragraph in here:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Occam%27s_Razor
  • Videos from ISS
So you write in the wiki about the conspiracy, in there it says that all space travel is faked. How do you explain the weightlessness that astronauts experience for extended periods of time, like in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvTmdIhYnes
I know it's possible to simulate zero-gravity, using an airplane flying towards the ground so you're free falling, or the equivalent to free falling if we imagine we are on a flat plane which is accelerating towards us. But this is only done for short periods of time, for about 20-30 seconds. It is probably possible to do this for longer, but definitely not for 50 minutes like this video is.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEWy6jyBLfM
I have actually calculated how far up you would need to be using the equation of motion for objects moving in 1D with a constant acceleration. Since motion in the different planes is independent of eachother, i only need to calculate the motion in the y-direction (up and down).
d=1/2*a*t2+v0*t+s0
Where d is the distance traveled, a is the acceleration, t is time, v0 is the starting speed and s0 is the starting position. Every unit used is SI-units.
We can just remove the last two parts because the starting speed is 0 and so is the starting position.
d=1/2*9.8 m/s2*((50*60) s)2=44000 km. Space is defined to start at 100 km. You have estimated the sun to be from 1100 km away to 4800 km away.
Source for sun distance: https://wiki.tfes.org/Distance_to_the_Sun
Anyway you would have to be atleast 9 times as far away from Earth as you claim the sun is and deep into space (Which you claim we have never been), if you were to fake this video with a zero-gravity plane.

Where it says space travel is faked: https://wiki.tfes.org/The_Conspiracy#Motive_of_the_Conspiracy
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I know that was a lot of questions, but thanks for reading! I am looking forward to hearing your answers.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political Musings
« Last post by garygreen on Today at 02:08:57 PM »
In your red-square wonderland, the government has already taken your $600 in taxes because "from each according to his ability, comrade." You had the ability to pay $600 and decided not to do that. Pretty key difference between free market corporatism and governments here.

lolol yep this is exactly how that works; local communist government calculates how much it takes to buy one of everything, then sends you a bill for that amount.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political Musings
« Last post by Rushy on Today at 01:03:45 PM »
Were being ruled over by malicious tyrants currently.

I'll give a good example using Ron Paul and ending the Fed in a few hours when I have time but for now.

I broke my phone screen, the screen costs $10, the guy replacing it will take an hour and is paid approximately $25 an hour.

I was quoted $600 for the phone repair. This is where free market capitalism and libertarianism often leads. With people ripping each other off trying to get ahead.

I don't believe in it.

And like in any free market, you're free to visit their competitors or you're free to buy the necessary materials to do it yourself. In your red-square wonderland, the government has already taken your $600 in taxes because "from each according to his ability, comrade." You had the ability to pay $600 and decided not to do that. Pretty key difference between free market corporatism and governments here. You never get to decide whether or not you want to contribute to an authoritarian government, regardless of how idealistically benevolent you might perceive it as.

Edit: I've split all of this outside of the Political Compass thread.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is beyond the ice wall?
« Last post by iamcpc on Today at 12:31:01 PM »



I've searched around the forums for more info on the infinite repeating planes model but haven't found a posting that sums it all up tightly.  Is this the model with the 'Pac Man Effect' where leaving one edge of the plane puts you on a corresponding point on the other side?


Yeah. 

I can start out at america and go west and wind up in china and I can also start in america and swipe east and wind up in china.


Kind of like in pac man you can go west and wind up on the east side and you can go east and wind up on the east side.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political Musings
« Last post by Rama Set on Today at 11:44:12 AM »
Yeah well we've seen what happens in an unrestricted free market and it isn't fairness and prosperity. It's multinational monopolies with more power than elected governments.

We need regulatory oversight to ensure we don't have companies like Google and Amazon ruling over us in lieu of our elected leaders.

Imho the green square is the worst. Not to say we all can't work together to make things better

So, instead of having lots of moderately powerful entities vying for power, you'd rather have one very powerful entity that never has to compete with anyone? You should trust the government far less than you trust Google and Amazon.

The hilarious part is these big evil corporations come to power because they have value in society. People choose to make them powerful by buying things from them. The same idiots that complain about corporations being too powerful probably also order their Communist Manifestos and Che Guevara shirts from Amazon.

Hol up, I’m gonna take this test again. I’m probably purple right now.

I don’t have a problem with large successful corporations. My problem is that they are above government power. If a regular citizen doesn’t pay their taxes they go to jail. If a corporate citizen doesn’t pay tax, we kindly ask them to pay less than they are supposed to. I would like government power to be commensurate with corporate power.