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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Theory => Topic started by: CuriousToAT on June 02, 2018, 08:56:49 PM

Title: My biggest question on all this
Post by: CuriousToAT on June 02, 2018, 08:56:49 PM
So I'll preface this with, I'm not a troll, not trying to be an asshole. However I can't understand how people do believe the earth is flat. So my biggest question is why do YOU believe the earth is flat? And to those who believe the earth is round, why do YOU believe as such?
Please feel free to add any evidence you have to add to your beliefs.

I'll add I personally believe in a round earth, due to what I can see and feel, along with things such as physics, which in my personal experience all lead to such a belief.

I'm not trying to start fights, and if you wish to namecall or 'sling mud' at one side or the other I personally will not dignify you with a response, and I urge anyone else who wishes to post upon this thread to do the same and ignore such trolls. (Even if you're not one using such tactics will result in you being seen as such by me)

Thank you to anyone who wants to debate/discuss here.

And P.S. Using comic Sans because I like it  ;D [No, you're not. ~Pete]
 I'm still gonna use it Pete! Even if it must hide.
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: Rab79 on June 03, 2018, 12:39:22 PM
So I'll preface this with, I'm not a troll, not trying to be an asshole. However I can't understand how people do believe the earth is flat. So my biggest question is why do YOU believe the earth is flat? And to those who believe the earth is round, why do YOU believe as such?
Please feel free to add any evidence you have to add to your beliefs.

I'll add I personally believe in a round earth, due to what I can see and feel, along with things such as physics, which in my personal experience all lead to such a belief.

I'm not trying to start fights, and if you wish to namecall or 'sling mud' at one side or the other I personally will not dignify you with a response, and I urge anyone else who wishes to post upon this thread to do the same and ignore such trolls. (Even if you're not one using such tactics will result in you being seen as such by me)

Thank you to anyone who wants to debate/discuss here.

And P.S. Using comic Sans because I like it  ;D

I do have a question if the moon were indeed in so called space as they call it why is is it at night when the moon is out you can clearly see clouds behind the moon and the full of the moon is in front of the clouds? mmmm...
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: Tontogary on June 03, 2018, 12:49:49 PM
So I'll preface this with, I'm not a troll, not trying to be an asshole. However I can't understand how people do believe the earth is flat. So my biggest question is why do YOU believe the earth is flat? And to those who believe the earth is round, why do YOU believe as such?
Please feel free to add any evidence you have to add to your beliefs.

I'll add I personally believe in a round earth, due to what I can see and feel, along with things such as physics, which in my personal experience all lead to such a belief.

I'm not trying to start fights, and if you wish to namecall or 'sling mud' at one side or the other I personally will not dignify you with a response, and I urge anyone else who wishes to post upon this thread to do the same and ignore such trolls. (Even if you're not one using such tactics will result in you being seen as such by me)

Thank you to anyone who wants to debate/discuss here.

And P.S. Using comic Sans because I like it  ;D

I do have a question if the moon were indeed in so called space as they call it why is is it at night when the moon is out you can clearly see clouds behind the moon and the full of the moon is in front of the clouds? mmmm...

Really? Can you provide any evidence of that?
Even if the moon is where FEers say it is, then it is many hundreds of miles above the highest clouds......... interested to see the evidence....
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: Bobby Shafto on June 03, 2018, 02:05:26 PM
I do have a question if the moon were indeed in so called space as they call it why is is it at night when the moon is out you can clearly see clouds behind the moon and the full of the moon is in front of the clouds? mmmm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGnSKKJuwYk
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: JustAnotherAtheist on June 03, 2018, 03:03:33 PM
Seems more like the moon is just shining through the thinner clouds, like how you can see a lightbulb through paper. The higher up clouds are thin enough to appear invisible from the light of the moon or the sun.
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: Pete Svarrior on June 03, 2018, 07:19:20 PM
And P.S. Using comic Sans because I like it  ;D [No, you're not. ~Pete]
Sorry, I won't allow that outside of the Complete Nonsense board.
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: AATW on June 03, 2018, 09:15:09 PM
And P.S. Using comic Sans because I like it  ;D [No, you're not. ~Pete]
Sorry, I won't allow that outside of the Complete Nonsense board.
Best modding decision ever tbh.

Back to the silly claim about clouds being behind the moon...
Pretty sure that would not be so in FE either, and clearly in that video they have the exposure set to silly levels such that the moon is so bright the light of it completely obliterates the clouds in front of it.
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: Westprog on June 03, 2018, 10:22:45 PM
And P.S. Using comic Sans because I like it  ;D [No, you're not. ~Pete]
Sorry, I won't allow that outside of the Complete Nonsense board.
Best modding decision ever tbh.

Back to the silly claim about clouds being behind the moon...
Pretty sure that would not be so in FE either, and clearly in that video they have the exposure set to silly levels such that the moon is so bright the light of it completely obliterates the clouds in front of it.

They show a picture where you can see the clouds in front of the moon and claim that the clouds are behind the moon.
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: CuriousToAT on June 04, 2018, 05:45:00 PM
So I'll preface this with, I'm not a troll, not trying to be an asshole. However I can't understand how people do believe the earth is flat. So my biggest question is why do YOU believe the earth is flat? And to those who believe the earth is round, why do YOU believe as such?
Please feel free to add any evidence you have to add to your beliefs.

I'll add I personally believe in a round earth, due to what I can see and feel, along with things such as physics, which in my personal experience all lead to such a belief.

I'm not trying to start fights, and if you wish to namecall or 'sling mud' at one side or the other I personally will not dignify you with a response, and I urge anyone else who wishes to post upon this thread to do the same and ignore such trolls. (Even if you're not one using such tactics will result in you being seen as such by me)

Thank you to anyone who wants to debate/discuss here.

And P.S. Using comic Sans because I like it  ;D

I do have a question if the moon were indeed in so called space as they call it why is is it at night when the moon is out you can clearly see clouds behind the moon and the full of the moon is in front of the clouds? mmmm...

I've seen other talk on this, but I'll add in, the clouds aren't behind the moon, and this is in either model of earth given. I'm not 100% sure on the height that clouds can't be outside, however, they need to be within the atmosphere (as I'm not FE I don't know what you guys call/consider the equilvante of this) in order to be formed. Usual when you see the moon appearing in front of a cloud it's due to the light passing through a thin cloud. It's the same as if you were to hold a piece of paper to the sun. You'd see the sun through the paper. Therefore it's more of an optical illusion, as the rest looks like it's in the correct place but what's in front of the moon doesn't.
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: MCToon on June 04, 2018, 06:02:15 PM
I do have a question if the moon were indeed in so called space as they call it why is is it at night when the moon is out you can clearly see clouds behind the moon and the full of the moon is in front of the clouds? mmmm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGnSKKJuwYk

The typical FE claim is the moon is 3000 miles above the flat earth.  I haven't seen any claims that clouds are over 3000 miles up.  I have seen very little consistency in FE claims so these guys could hold a different opinion.

I'll agree that this is clearly a misunderstanding of basic contrast.  I would suggest these people look into some of Ansel Adam's photographic writings or start more enjoyable read, the excellent "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson.  This book brought my photography from terrible to ...um... less-terrible. 

The other sad thing is how this video so strongly claims it's all about the truth when it's telling such lies.  Sadness.
Title: Re: My biggest question on all this
Post by: alfred1 on July 15, 2018, 04:28:06 PM
The clouds seem to be in front of the clouds to me. Theses clouds are only very thin and the light from the moon can easily pass through the thinner ones. Clouds are not solid objects. They vaporous.