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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 12, 2024, 11:37:12 PM »

he was the obvious choice for Person of the Year.

Nah, they'd be Luigi Mangione

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 04, 2024, 09:24:51 PM »

Abusing exec powers is a non-partisan thing. I have plenty to bitch about whoever is President.

Now, have a read through the message you're currently arguing against. You took a message that said comparing the numbers is silly, chose to disagree with it, and now you're listing off reason after reason for why comparing the numbers is silly.

I know a lot more about his story than Trump does.

Evidently not. And, before you have another Certified Doctor Moment™, this isn't a comment in support of Trump. It's just an indictment of you knowing precisely nothing.

A Presidential pardon is a federal pardon issued by the President.

Mhm, mhm, and that's as opposed to... what other kind of federal pardon, exactly?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 04, 2024, 07:34:31 PM »

Those 6500 are people pardoned for weed. You can't keep them in jail when weed is legal.

Sure you can - imprisoning innocents is one of America's finest pastimes.

Also, if we're gonna pick pardons you do and don't like, then you have a lot of picking and choosing to do. Please provide a complete list of which pardons from the last 4 presidents you do and don't like.

Obama abusing the system doesn't prove anything.

OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO GETTING IT. C'MON, VAN NOSTRAND, ONE MORE PUSH!!!

He's just one of a dozen dark marketeers

Right. I recommend you familiarise yourself with his story if you're gonna bring it up. Will save you a couple of Certified Doctor Moments™.

Why not Daniel Kaye or Rui-Siang Lin.

Why, indeed? Let me know once you've done your homework.

I think 'pardons' and 'Presidential pardons' are two separate things.

Okay. Since you're introducing a non-standard distinction to the concept of a federal pardon, please provide your definitions. Which type of non-presidential pardons is your favourite?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 04, 2024, 06:06:41 PM »

Biden pardoned around 27 people, Trump pardoned 237.

You're about 6500 short for Biden, and Obama pardoned 1927. It's almost as if comparing these funny numbers isn't very helpful.

Ross Ulbricht (in prison for life for operating the dark web market, "Silk Road.")

How much do you know about Ulbricht?

And of course, he's also going to pardon himself for any crimes he chooses to commit.

So, uh, I guess you're joining us in the "pardons are bad" camp?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 04, 2024, 02:07:14 PM »

I don't see how you'd come to that conclusion, given how, as you pointed out, Trump did this exact same thing many times, while Biden did it just once.

Did he do it just once, Saddam? Did he?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Photo from Plane Proves the Earth Is Round

« on: November 29, 2024, 04:32:01 PM »

Everette, instead of uploading a clearly altered JPEG and a separate link to EXIF data (which had already expired), could you just, y'know, share the original photo? I strongly suspect you've made mutliple errors here, but you didn't provide enough data to scrutinise your work either way.

Also, crucially: if you want to be treated like an adult, you need to start acting like one. You've got a group of people who would normally jump at any opportunity to cheerlead for the RE crowd telling you you're wrong, and explaining why. You need to evaluate what they have to say, not just repeatedly state that you're bemused by it. Similarly, it would have been good if you familiarised yourself with previous discussions on this subject. Believe it or not, you're not the first person to take a commercial flight, and the question of how much curvature should or shouldn't be seen in either model is a stale subject. Stop acting like everything you do is special and unique, and start learning from those around you.

This is important if you want to make any progress here. Self-important declarations of who you will and will not talk to, as well as silly demands like "ask yourself what would convince you" just won't fly here. This is especially frustrating when you profoundly declare yourself to "not care for preconceived narratives", and then spend your entire time in this thread whinging about your own preconceived narratives. I'll start by politely asking that you never do that again. As I'm sure you know by now, these requests will get progressively less polite if needed.

Most likely not correct.  I did some searching but didn't come up a site where the subject of a round earth was the main discussion objective.

Metabunk. Please go to Metabunk. They'll love you there.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political pundits be damned - why they were all wrong.

« on: November 24, 2024, 05:11:48 PM »

It's almost like introducing a two trillion dollar stimulus package in the middle of a pandemic was actually a bad idea! Biden thought he could copy and paste Obama's economic policies, seemingly unaware that an entire decade has passed.

Well, yes. You weren't hoping that I'd identify the "good guys" in US politics, were you?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political pundits be damned - why they were all wrong.

« on: November 23, 2024, 10:29:44 PM »

It's difficult to "get", because the core MAGA electorate refuses to respond to reason. Not the people here, mind you - it's more the sorts who vote for an increase in the prices of everyday goods because everyday goods are too expensive. (I'm sorry you'll have to deal with the fallout, especially so in a poor state.)

To assume that people like this are a vanishingly small minority that won't amount to anything is a necessary self-preservation instinct. I'm sure the libs don't consciously erase that group - they just fool themselves into thinking that the world they were birthed into isn't quite this flawed. Similarly, to preserve their sanity, they look for excuses. No, it was the women who didn't turn out to vote. Nay, it was the blacks! Someone, anyone, please - there has to be someone that can distract from the fact that the majority of Americans have fallen so far from grace.

Ah well, it's another 4-year mega-recession, then 4-8 years of incomplete recovery, and then we can have a maniac in power again. A cycle as old as the US of A itself.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 17, 2024, 10:53:53 PM »

Looks like our senile democrat president, who you guys have spent years on this forum defending and campaigning for, has now given the go ahead for Ukraine to use US-supplied long range missiles against Russia.

It's about god damn time. I guess that's the result of Trump kicking things into gear, given that he recently spoke with both Biden and Zelensky. Maybe he's not so bad, after all.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 16, 2024, 03:06:31 PM »

So not "co-president." - Gotcha.

Yeah. Like I said - it's definitely exaggerated.

The benevelonce of a superior western civilisation located where the last two world wars started? That superior civilisation?

Prescisely. Don't forget the crusades - we've been rocking the bloodlust lifestyle long before you guys invented school shootings. All y'all'll catch up eventually.

It is spelled with a fucking "z" by the way.

See, this is what I'm talking about. So uncultured.

Not that I really care about Elon, but I doubt he feels scammed.

I don't think he feels scammed. He still thinks he's the First Buddy. But he's always been a little slow on the uptake.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 16, 2024, 11:54:38 AM »

contains a statement about some "theory" that Elon might become "co-President." Who the fuck was proposing that theory?

It's an interpretation of the hopes Elon had been expressing. Even recently he's been calling himself the "first buddy".

It's definitely exxagerated, but that's just how Americans talk - if we take every boisterous claim made by an American as a "lie", then Americans can't even buy groceries without lying through their teeth. They're just a fundamentally dishonest people, not ready for the benevolence of the superior western civilisation.

Wants to point out the DOGE has no budget. What if the work will be done with no paycheck?

That was part of a longer list of things that make DOGE "not a real department". The point isn't that things can't be done without a budget, but rather that even very unimportant departments do get one. By extension, DOGE is laughably unimportant.

Elon paid Trump for the privilege of prostrating himself, and he got scammed in return. It's a big win for Trump, who's always been good at this sort of manipulation.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 15, 2024, 05:55:03 PM »

I mean, most of what he offered was a lie.

Please call it out if you see it. What I found valuable was the explanation of just how little actual power he's been left with. Sure, Trump & co. might listen to him, but they also might not - pretty raw deal for someone who's sold his soul to the Republicans.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 15, 2024, 05:17:26 PM »

It seems that Donald Trump and Elon Musk have broken MSNBC.

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1856547918263570784

Interesting analysis. I knew DOGE was a scam, aiming to keep Elon compliant, but I didn't realise its extent

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 14, 2024, 08:48:05 PM »

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1856523237208797221

Damn, Milei-tier prosperity and happiness is just around the corner. Thoughts and prayers for y'all.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Can we believe Michelson Morley?

« on: November 13, 2024, 10:07:27 PM »

EA has no equations

Incorrect

experiments

False

or explanations

Unsubstantiated.

Jimster, I'm gonna be straight with you. We've received a few complaints about you repeatedly starting threads that are either made in abysmally poor faith, or which are straight up rehashes of your old posts. I haven't acted on these. I am now, politely, asking you to stop. The next response will be proportionately less polite.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 13, 2024, 05:34:48 PM »

I note that the word children was avoided in this, so I will take the win.

I'm not sure I understand your objection. Do you think that, historically, people only turned out to be trans after they surpassed a certain age? If so, you only need to look to hijras to correct your mistake.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 13, 2024, 07:57:14 AM »

We can find plenty of gay acceptance in ancient civilizations

I mean, there's a good amount of acceptance for various forms of gender non-confirming people in history. Different cultures had different ways of interpreting the same issue (often by defining a third gender), but they're definitely present. If you're looking to learn more about this, you could start with the Indian subcontinent or native American cultures

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Flat Earth Community / Re: contact with members of TFES

« on: November 08, 2024, 04:55:41 PM »

Dude. Stop asking for permission to post. Read the forum rules, work out which posts go in which boards, and just start a thread whenever you're ready.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 06, 2024, 08:17:41 AM »

Oh, yeah, wild shit is about to go down one way or another. I dunno if it'll be martial law, but we mostly agree

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 06, 2024, 08:05:24 AM »

he is DOING IT!!!!

Why? Trump won.  If he declares martial law, it'll be against his enemies, not you.

A80 is presumably suggesting that it could happen before the transition of power. I strongly doubt that it will.