Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #140 on: May 03, 2018, 01:43:30 AM »
Tumeni,
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Hogwash. Balloons don't behave like that. If they were balloons, they would not stick to defined paths. They would be at the mercy of wind and weather.

Some balloons like blimps can be maneuvered on a defined path quite nicely actually.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #141 on: May 03, 2018, 07:28:54 AM »
Tumeni,
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Hogwash. Balloons don't behave like that. If they were balloons, they would not stick to defined paths. They would be at the mercy of wind and weather.

Some balloons like blimps can be maneuvered on a defined path quite nicely actually.
But are not used for broadcast, satellites are.

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #142 on: May 03, 2018, 07:48:50 AM »
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Hogwash. Balloons don't behave like that. If they were balloons, they would not stick to defined paths. They would be at the mercy of wind and weather.

Some balloons like blimps can be maneuvered on a defined path quite nicely actually.

I know you don't like to be accused of ad hoc fallacies, so I'm sure you've already accounted for this, but blimps travel at about 70 miles per hour, and can only travel mostly in a straight line, not exactly in a straight line. Compare to the ISS that travels a straight path predictably at tens of thousands of miles per hour.

Blimps also have endurance issues due to fuel consumption or helium leaks.

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #143 on: May 03, 2018, 08:15:03 AM »
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Since satellites don't exist what is this thing that the government is calling the "international space station" that I am able to see?

It could very well be an abnormally shaped asteroid-like space object.

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It was not there in 1980. When did it get there? How did it get there? If it's man made then it's a satellite by definition.

If it's a natural space object, then it was always there. We just didn't discover it until 1980. Or possibly it was captured by the earth around that time.

OK. I'm outta here. You're either a troll or off your meds or both.
You have the temerity to say there is "no evidence" for satellites (which is bullshit, there's a ridiculous amount of evidence) and then spout a load of conjecture about balloons or natural space objects which you literally have no evidence for.

 ???
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #144 on: May 03, 2018, 01:10:12 PM »
iamcpc,

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Since satellites don't exist what is this thing that the government is calling the "international space station" that I am able to see?

It could very well be an abnormally shaped asteroid-like space object.

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It was not there in 1980. When did it get there? How did it get there? If it's man made then it's a satellite by definition.

If it's a natural space object, then it was always there. We just didn't discover it until 1980. Or possibly it was captured by the earth around that time.

OK. I'm outta here. You're either a troll or off your meds or both.
You have the temerity to say there is "no evidence" for satellites (which is bullshit, there's a ridiculous amount of evidence) and then spout a load of conjecture about balloons or natural space objects which you literally have no evidence for.

 ???
Also, if they're balloons lauched by the 'space travel conspiracists', then they're satellites by definition.
Also also, if there's an ionosphere, there's an atmosphere, so there's a sphere.
Also also also, how does ground-based gps work? We know the logistics of satellite gps, but mysteriously the """""""true""""""" method is unexplained.
Also also also also,
It's a natural layer of the earth's atmosphere that can reflect radio waves. It's used to send radio signals around world.
seems like you don't believe the flatness you preach.
The espionage crustacean strikes again.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #145 on: May 04, 2018, 12:42:04 PM »
They're cheap rockets for show.
Hi Pickel B. I like you don't accept things without evidence. Our knowledge is gained by what we see and observe. Otherwise we must leave subject unknown.

I just want to say that not 'cheap' as you say. Look at list of members involved in public faking of space travel.

They probably like you not taking them seriously, because allows them to continue their faking without too much attention.

Also, be careful when you engage in rationalization - conjecture and speculation. Balloons etc. asteroids, you have not seen them either. Might be better to just leave subject unknown rather than speculate what you think is.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #146 on: May 06, 2018, 08:23:54 AM »
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???

What the f*** is my satellite dish pointing at then?
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The sky. More specifically, equipped balloons or a specific location in the sky where local radio towers send signals that bounce off the ionosphere.

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And how does GPS work?

GPS doesn't need satellite.

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And where do all those satellite photos used in weather reports come from.


In some cases, high altitude balloons. In other cases (like NASA earth images), faked images.

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And how come you can SEE the ISS if you know what you're doing, exactly where NASA say it's going to be and going at significant speed?

The ISS could very well be a natural space object (like an asteroid). It could be anything really. You could also see Venus exactly where NASA says it can be seen. Movements of heavenly bodies can be predicted with amazing accuracy.

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And where are all those rockets going which people keep witnessing the launches of?
No evidence? Behave.

They're cheap rockets for show. They probably land in some remote location on earth. Have you actuallly observed a rocket on the moon?

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OK, to play your game...there is no evidence that they are balloons.

They may or may not be balloons. I just offered balloons as an alternative explanation. They could very well be be little asteroid-like objects with the ability to reflect microwaves and radio waves.

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I'm pretty sure it would be technically impossible to have balloons which float around in unpredictable ways depending on wind providing things like GPS, Satellite TV, meteorology photos and faking the ISS and all in locations accurate enough to do all this.

That's your opinion.

So it is your claim that GPS doesn’t need satellites to work. You will need to back that up.

Exactly how does a person, lets say 1000 miles west of Perth Australia get their position from the “magic” box that is called GPS?
There are no land based towers out there, no cell phone reception, just water for 1000 miles all around.
You obviously know how it works in order to make such a statement, so please enlighten me?

Also, if you haven't heard of bronies before, that reflects poorly on your understanding of the world that surrounds you. It's practically impossible not to know about them.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #147 on: May 19, 2018, 02:54:16 AM »
More flat earth fake sats with employee interviews.  Bonus points for Antarctica

What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #148 on: May 19, 2018, 05:38:11 AM »
More flat earth fake sats with employee interviews.  Bonus points for Antarctica



How can we prove the person actually worked at NASA?
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #149 on: May 19, 2018, 07:33:18 AM »
More flat earth fake sats with employee interviews.  Bonus points for Antarctica

VID

Read the comments on the video. There are multiple contributors who assert the male is an out-an-out imposter, and that he's never been where he says he's been.

The lady's Linkedin profile shows that she last worked for anyone in 2012, a full six years ago.

She worked for NASA as a Computer Specialist Level II, from Nov 1996 – May 2000 

"IT Responsibilities; worked under the guidance of senior technicians, reviewing NASA’s computer systems, operating equipment and machinery. Examined customer requests, identified potential defects in machinery and provided routine maintenance support. Documented and resolved client operating problems. Communicated with customers to ensure operating systems and equipment was functional, learned about technical product features. Directly supported and interacted with computer servers and archival databases. Supported hardware and technical issues; such as computer tool kits, wire crimpers, screwdrivers and disaster recovery software. Served as a technical team member to support the needs of computer users at NASA. Responded to trouble calls logged into the Dryden provided reporting system. Diagnosed and repaired customer desktop applications. Logged, assigned and tracked all customer queries and trouble tickets.

As a computer and documentation specialist, developed clear, concise and accurate procedures, end-user instructions and system documentation as required. I worked with unique equipment at NASA. Some examples are: the SR-71 (Black Bird) Maintenance Data Processing (MDP), using a digital equipment corporation (DEC) VAX 8350 and a Versatec plotter. Operated maintained, serviced and supported installation and diagnosed problems with SNA printers and printers connected to Marshall Space Flight Center. Contacted service providers for equipment support as needed.

Served as System Administrator for computer backup/restore using Retrospect Software. Maintained the software and hardware used for the back-up system for entire NASA Center. Restored data, reviewed and updated client database daily."


Honestly, does this give her realistic credentials to pronounce whether or not satellites exist?

Her more recent employments have been as secretaries and admin assistants. Nothing of any substance.

And again... why is all about NASA? Most of the current and future satellite launches are not NASA craft. Most of the satellites already up there were not put there by NASA.

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #150 on: June 04, 2018, 09:16:37 AM »
I've started to build a picture of hoax. See here. You are correct, it is much bigger than NASA.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #151 on: June 04, 2018, 04:18:59 PM »
I've started to build a picture of hoax. See here. You are correct, it is much bigger than NASA.

Interesting article. To me, a conspiracy that large would be impossible to keep secret, much less even coordinate.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #152 on: June 10, 2018, 12:49:01 AM »
It's time for a couple good video's. The first proves without a doubt it's all fakery. You really can't convince someone with a working mind, the earth is a globe. Trust your senses.





Bonus Video, treat yourself to Rob Skiba and all his good FE stuff.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #153 on: June 10, 2018, 12:59:20 AM »
It's time for a couple good video's. The first proves without a doubt it's all fakery.

6.20 in the first one alleges that Peake is in front of a Chromakey Screen. It's blue with white gridlines.

I've searched for chromakey screens for sale, and general image searches for them, and I can't find any which are blue with white gridlines.

Conclusion; it's not a chromakey screen.

If this is the typical 'proof' offered by these videos, it's not worth having
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #154 on: June 10, 2018, 01:53:58 AM »
There is no new evidence in those videos that hasn't been debunked.

Number three isn't even evidence. He just shows an astronaut flipping forward, and then a montage of people doing flips on wires. He provides no actual proof the astronaut is using wires.

Disappointing. I was hoping for something new.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #155 on: June 10, 2018, 03:38:05 AM »
I love the video about how there is an ice wall so you can't fall off, but in the first clip it shows people being lifted from a boat onto the top of the ice wall.

If you can get on top of the wall and walk, why again can't you fall off?

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #156 on: June 13, 2018, 12:04:11 AM »


It could very well be an abnormally shaped asteroid-like space object.



This is what I saw with my telescope:
(I didn't personally take this picture but this is the same thing that I was able to see)



It's funny because it looks very similar to the pictures of the ISS that I've seen online. It's clearly highly reflective and large. It almost looks man made as no asteroids that I know of have large wing shaped solar panel looking things.

If it's a natural space object, then it was always there. We just didn't discover it until 1980. Or possibly it was captured by the earth around that time.

It's pretty hard to miss being visible to the naked eye and HIGHLY visible using any sort of telescope or binoculars. This would suggest that it was not there in the 80's .
Unless human eyes became 20 times stronger since then.

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #157 on: June 13, 2018, 03:25:51 PM »
not sure why people are talking about balloons, etc.

NASA doesnt even hide the fact they are using high altitutude planes.  website says 70,000 foot cruising altitude.  and also says they use them to "test" satellite sensor data, lol, ok.  even says they can fly for 6,000 miles at 410 knots (470 mph).  geez, sure does sound like a satellite.  the one they show even is similar to ISS, i am sure its just a different version of the same plane:

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/news/FactSheets/FS-046-DFRC.html


look at the second picture on that website the one on the right side of the page showing a pilot getting in the plane.  look at the large panel about him, looks just like the ISS picture's panel
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #158 on: June 13, 2018, 03:32:10 PM »
not sure why people are talking about balloons, etc.

NASA doesnt even hide the fact they are using high altitutude planes.  website says 70,000 foot cruising altitude.  and also says they use them to "test" satellite sensor data, lol, ok.  even says they can fly for 6,000 miles at 410 knots (470 mph).  geez, sure does sound like a satellite.  the one they show even is similar to ISS, i am sure its just a different version of the same plane:

.. but there's only two of them.

look at the second picture on that website the one on the right side of the page showing a pilot getting in the plane.  look at the large panel about him, looks just like the ISS picture's panel

Looks nothing like it.

What are you suggesting? That when I aim my satellite dish from the UK to the south, that there's one of these NASA planes floating around over Portugal, Malta, or Africa to fill in the signal?
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #159 on: June 13, 2018, 03:47:39 PM »
not sure why people are talking about balloons, etc.

NASA doesnt even hide the fact they are using high altitutude planes.  website says 70,000 foot cruising altitude.  and also says they use them to "test" satellite sensor data, lol, ok.  even says they can fly for 6,000 miles at 410 knots (470 mph).  geez, sure does sound like a satellite.  the one they show even is similar to ISS, i am sure its just a different version of the same plane:

.. but there's only two of them.

look at the second picture on that website the one on the right side of the page showing a pilot getting in the plane.  look at the large panel about him, looks just like the ISS picture's panel

Looks nothing like it.

What are you suggesting? That when I aim my satellite dish from the UK to the south, that there's one of these NASA planes floating around over Portugal, Malta, or Africa to fill in the signal?

ok, sure, there's only "two" of them, if you believe that i got some waterfront property to sell you.  there is a huge fleet of them.  why do you think NASA and all the other space agencies budgets are so big?

it does look like it, at least the picture i referenced.  Are you really thinking NASA will have a picture of the exact one??  wow.

this is in response to the ISS and other low/medium and geosynchronous satelittes , not the geostationary ones (directv, etc).  thats a different system and i have not studied up on those.  I can only address the satelittes the closer ones
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