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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 08, 2020, 09:03:13 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/entertainment/kanye-trump-coronavirus-forbes/index.html

Looks like somebody recognized that supporting Trump was costing him street cred and is trying to get it back.

Meanwhile I hope he does run for president. Why would anybody presume he'll take votes away from Biden when he aligned himself with Trump for so long? Please run, Kanye!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 08, 2020, 01:42:13 PM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2020/07/08/mary-trump-book-family-memoir-worst-moments-donald-trump/5396178002/

More juicy stuff. It looks like this book will be the first book about Trump that reads like an episode of Dynasty.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 03, 2020, 11:59:39 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Black Lives Matter
« on: July 02, 2020, 09:48:06 PM »
In the news today ... you'll enjoy this link.

David Starky is one of the most high profile historians in the United Kingdom. His comments are hilarious.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53262668

Who exactly was he responding to, that characterized slavery as genocide?

To me it sounds like someone else on the right treating a minority opinion on the left as something that the majority treats seriously, even though they probably don't, and doing so in a profoundly racist way. No wonder you have such a hard-on for him.

And yes I did enjoy that! Thanks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 02, 2020, 01:41:49 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 01, 2020, 03:05:27 PM »
This business of P45 not reading/ignoring/forgetting the content of his daily briefing, in which the payment, or offer of payment, of a bounty on the heads of American servicemen and women was written (confirmed by multiple sources), I predict will be Trump's undoing.

The veterans' association(s) are turning against him, the rank and file servicemen and women are also their disapproval on the social medias ...

I never understood how anyone with respect for the military could continue to support this man after he insulted a POW for being a POW (it's one of those truly baffling paradoxes about his base). I guess looking the other way at our servicemen having bounties put on their heads is the breaking point for some of them.

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Thork, I want people to have that attitude. I want people to be paranoid that the Orange Man will win again,  despite the overwhelming evidence that he won't. Apparently it's the only way to energize enough Democrats to make a difference.

Sadly America's youth will not vote, they just can't be bothered.  Maybe if they could vote on Tik Tok?

Thanks for contributing to the cause!  :)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 29, 2020, 06:04:30 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-biggs-2020-biden-trump

Um, Rep Biggs, you do know it's Joe Biden Trump's running against, not Bernie Sanders?

They're so desperate they're really trying to paint Biden as some kind of evil commie. It's hard to imagine anyone but the usual base of morons actually falling for it. This man was in the public eye for years, amazing that he's suppressed these tendencies for so long!

And authoritarian? Has he listened to any of Trump's rhetoric lately?

So transparent. So desperate.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 26, 2020, 02:44:32 PM »
Trump seems to be doing everything he can to make sure as many people as possible die from COVID-19 before he leaves office. Just consider:

--He is convincing people not to wear masks at a time when his own health experts and everyone else in the world says they're essential to slowing the spread of the virus;

--He's pushing for reopening at a time when we're seeing our worst surge in cases yet;

--He's holding superspreader events with thousands of people crammed into a small space, in places where the virus is hitting worst;

--He wants there to be less testing, despite his own health experts and everyone else in the world saying that adequate testing is essential to slowing the spread of the virus.

Once you recognize that Trump is trying to murder the American people with the coronavirus, his repealing of an act that provides coverage to many Americans who need it during the worst health crisis of our lifetimes suddenly makes a lot of sense.

Who knows what his motivation is? Revenge against a populace who refused to universally embrace and love him? Some kind of Lex Luthor-like supervillain complex? The ol' Rick Sanchez explanation: he just does it because he can? Who knows? But his actions are making one thing very clear: he wants record numbers of the American people to die this year, and is doing everything in his power to make that happen.

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Thork, I want people to have that attitude. I want people to be paranoid that the Orange Man will win again,  despite the overwhelming evidence that he won't. Apparently it's the only way to energize enough Democrats to make a difference.

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Just like minorities get trained to pull the race card every time they want to do what they want to do without logical consequence.

Now that's an interesting claim.

Let's say this is true.... who's training them to pull the race card?

The liberal media, of course.   ::)

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/22/seattle-dismantle-chaz-protest-zone

Well, it was a nice experiment. If nothing else it demonstrated the importance of having police around, I mean who could have ever predicted that a lack of police presence would lead to increased crime?    ::)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 21, 2020, 09:21:50 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 21, 2020, 07:14:44 PM »
I guess all those people who camped out to make sure they beat the throngs to the rally feel a little foolish now.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Black Lives Matter
« on: June 21, 2020, 11:09:53 AM »
I'm gonna take the lazy route. I don't really want to go watching through a bunch of The Young Turks to pick out specific examples.

And if you had done that you would have been showing clips of the worst the Left has to offer, only proving my point...

I'm kidding of course, but as far as mainstream liberalism goes they really are the worst.

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I think you're right when you say it's employed more often by the right. Looking at Ad Fontes Media's media bias chart, there are obviously more unreliable media on the right, and it includes big names like Fox News. Meanwhile, the left-hand-side is full of "literally who?"



That said, I think it's also overly reductive to describe it as a problem that's exclusive to the right. I'd be quicker to describe it as a uniquely American problem, but then other Anglo countries are now starting to follow suit.

I suspect part of our disagreement might be in that we're exposed to different media. I see a lot of Occupy Democrats and the Daily Kos in my social circles, despite the fact that they're relatively small. I'm actually not sure why that is, but it certainly skews my view. My more passionate friends end up reposting shit that combines a photo of Trump with a Hitler quote while decrying right-wingers for being idiots who fall for fake news.

A compromise, how nice. I think we agree more than we disagree on a lot of things tbh. We're not so different, you and I.

I will admit an occasional tendency to the reductive when arguing politics. I don't really see the world as black and white, I only come across that way sometimes.

Picking out the extremism of the Left isn't hard to do when they are the party of rioters, criminals, and deviants who hate America.

Someone else on the Right that regularly uses this tactic, thanks for posting and reminding us Tom.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Black Lives Matter
« on: June 21, 2020, 10:46:27 AM »
Ok, snarkiness aside, this really does seem like a tactic employed more often by the Right (I would never be so foolish as to argue that there aren't bad faith actors on both sides). This is what people like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Laura Ingraham (not to mention our own resident Toddler) build their entire public existence around. Hannity often starts his show with some soundbite that encapsulates the worst the Left has to offer and amplifies it into something his viewers need to fear as an imminent threat. The NRA amplifies the voice of the severe minority on the Left that really does want to repeal the 2nd amendment and have their members shout about how the Democrats are trying to take away their guns anytime someone tries to pass reasonable legislation.

Do people on the Left do it too? I don't doubt it. But I don't think it's so prevalent on the Left. Feel free to provide lots of examples in trying to prove me wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Black Lives Matter
« on: June 21, 2020, 10:22:23 AM »
Why do so many people on the Right take the absolute worst examples of something and prop them up as evidence that their side is correct? I mean, the intent is so transparent only the nitwits already on their side ever fall for it.
I mean, that's hardly exclusive to one side. If a movement has a loud side that's easy to demonise, its opponents will try to make everyone in the movement guilty by association.

BLM? Whoa, rioters, looters, shit's on fire! Oh, and they think only black people deserve to live. How callous!
Gamergate? Bunch of misogynists carefully plotting how to eliminate women from the media.
Flat Earthers? All Trump supporters/ultra-socialists, every one of them, and some of them even hate Jews/are sponsored by the Jews!

Given how often this happens, and given the fact that people keep falling for it, I don't think you're right in dismissing it as something that only tricks nitwits.

Bonus points when you're given so much ammunition.


http://v.omgomg.eu/alllivesdontmatta.mp4


Nah. Liberals are always right so they don't need to do it. This is definitely something you only see from conservatives.

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