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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Flat Earth Explanation Of The Horizon Is Impossible

« on: November 14, 2016, 01:53:02 AM »

Rabinoz great evidences for concave earth as well.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Stars in Northern and Southern Hemisphere

« on: November 12, 2016, 07:16:19 PM »

The earth is round for couples of weeks, concave to a lot of time and flat for very short time.

Have you a single piece of supporting evidence for the earth changing shape?

And you call yourself "truth", LOL!

Sure -
Star trails - Round earth and concave earth - supported
Different stars - round earth and concave earth - supported.
flaws in explanation why we can see Chicago from 60 miles - flat earth.
Flaws support my idea of changing earth.

There are no "flaws in explanation why we can see Chicago from 60 miles" for the globe - refraction, leading to mirage. Just see how it varies with atmospheric conditions.

Mirage of the Chicago Skyline from Grand Mere State Park

Most of Chicago hidden - behind what?

Oops, where has Chicago gone?

Then you can get a mirage so extreme that a boat can appear floating in the air above the water, as in:

"Ghost Ship, probably on Lake Ssuperior

There's no need to drag in a "changing earth", all these observations are quite explainable on the Globe.

People still discuss it, if it was so obvious as you say:
People won't discuss it so much. it is ,as other things, a subject for discussion therefore this a flaw like plenty of other discussions.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Stars in Northern and Southern Hemisphere

« on: November 12, 2016, 01:06:48 AM »

The earth is round for couples of weeks, concave to a lot of time and flat for very short time.

Have you a single piece of supporting evidence for the earth changing shape?

And you call yourself "truth", LOL!

you started using offensive words even before I had the opportunity to express myself.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Stars in Northern and Southern Hemisphere

« on: November 12, 2016, 12:54:02 AM »

The earth is round for couples of weeks, concave to a lot of time and flat for very short time.

Have you a single piece of supporting evidence for the earth changing shape?

And you call yourself "truth", LOL!

Sure -
Star trails - Round earth and concave earth - supported
Different stars - round earth and concave earth - supported.
flaws in explanation why we can see Chicago from 60 miles - flat earth.
Flaws support my idea of changing earth.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 10, 2016, 03:23:53 AM »

... GPS system is based on balloons at 18 - 40 KM why don't these altitudes comply with the calculations of the GPS?

Do you have any evidence to support this implication?

And I'm not sure but I think you can get altitude or elevation information from positions higher than 18 - 40 Km. How is this possible?

If you aren't sure then why are you positing the question to begin with? Additionally, as I mentioned previously, it is possible that "similar versions" could be responsible. I didn't say this was unequivocal, but obviously these versions would be capable of higher attitudes. I get that you RE types aren't good at context or critical thinking, but please try to make an effort once in a while.

I know about the Atomic clock in the Receiver and in the antenna - The atomic clock can calculate the time which the signal arrived, then you know how far is the satellite/antenna - My Theory goes like that - the atomic clock is there to keep the contact with the remote antenna for better coordinates to get in wider Visual, if there were not the clock the gps would pick other signals from closer antennas - that's my theory.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 10, 2016, 02:24:49 AM »

Wrong.

Incorrect.

Right down to your usually completely uninformative answers, keep it up!

I'm sorry if my previous links were too hard for you to understand. If you need any help, please just ask and I'll do my best to explain in a more simple way for you.

I would really like that. One thing I am not understanding is if the GPS system is based on balloons at 18 - 40 KM why don't these altitudes comply with the calculations of the GPS? And I'm not sure but I think you can get altitude or elevation information from positions higher than 18 - 40 Km. How is this possible?

I thought you get the distance between the transmitters to the device ?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Shadow Object Explanation of a Lunar Eclipse is Impossible!

« on: November 10, 2016, 01:59:26 AM »

I tried explain a lot of things yet I am sure that the lunar eclipse is caused the globe shadow.

Then you believe that the earth is a globe and a lunar eclipse is not caused by some "shadow object" ?

I do believe lunar eclipse caused by the shadow from Globe earth, by I do believe the earth to be very vivid and change phases from Concavity to flat(very short time of the year) to sphere. The best map I know today is to take google map or other projection and put the west as north and vice versa.

I do believe that we have infinite options of traveling in our planet the gateway is the poles, they have strange mechanism how they work and in short time of the year the "Phantom" islands of the north pole could be really true continents.

That's my belief you don't have to take it so seriously, but some of it can explain a lot of phenomena

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Shadow Object Explanation of a Lunar Eclipse is Impossible!

« on: November 10, 2016, 01:53:12 AM »

I tried explain a lot of things yet I am sure that the lunar eclipse is caused the globe shadow.

Then you believe that the earth is a globe and a lunar eclipse is not caused by some "shadow object" ?

I do believe lunar eclipse caused by the shadow from Globe earth, by I do believe the earth to be very vivid and change phases from Concavity to flat(very short time of the year) to sphere. The best map I know today is to take google map or other projection and put the west as north and vice versa.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 10, 2016, 01:45:48 AM »

Someone has posted that GPS do not work at Sahara, I will argue that it won't work at places with low coverage from GPS Mountain based antennas.
What happen is that antennas all over the world cover with frequencies a lot of space and then you have your signal to GPS.

The best place to put such an antenna is at mountains, there you can has a lot of connections all over the world, second thing is what we call microwave:
You launch signals from far away and the signal get caught on ground and allow you navigate safely.

Rayzor once said there is a specific frequency - yes this is the frequency for GPS Mountain based antennas.
When we know that antennas are hundreds of kilometers far away even thousands of kilometers we can assume that the antenna is in a very remote part of the world, or at very far away part of the world,
The world is full of signals of antennas that's all.

There are satellites at space they produce useless photos but not GPS signal.

Disclaimer:
That's my theory I am not a professional I am just want to speculate according to the laws of this forum.

How many mountains.are there in the middle of the oceans ?

There are many ways to spread signals across the ocean.

Okay. Like, which?

1) Nearby mountain antennas can launch very powerful rays to the ocean and then you can pick them from high altitude,
2)you can use the stratosphere or the concavity of the earth.
3)powerful antennas can launch very powerful rays and signal to the sky then the rays declining or sinking down and what you have to do is to pick the signal from air.

But you kind of miss some key points.

1. Based on GPS data, you can calculate the exact position of any given GPS satellite that your GPS chip is receiving from

2. "Very powerful rays" is.. Well, vague. What kind of "rays"? Frequency, band etc. Those kind of information are kind of... Important. Different bands and frequencies have different properties, pros and cons, especially when it comes to either bouncing off of he upper atmosphere or following the earth's curvature (like VHF for instance)

3. Picking something from high altitudes, I assume that you them refer to line-of-sight. With what then? Extremely tall GPS antennas?

1)maybe you can calculate the antenna distance from you and it could be very far away antenna as well.

Ok. You didn't answer my two other points. Please make an effort to.

And no. GPS data doesn't simply consist of a frequency data and a simple direction. I can tell you with 100% certainty, that the data I read from a GPS chip doesn't come from an antenna. Besides the actual coordinates you'd expect from positioning, you also get stuff like azimuth, angle, altitude (in centimeters for consumer grade chips), latitude, longitude, speed, day, month, year, time stamps, and heaps of other data specific to your configuration.

Please find a better explanation, and while you do, please know that I work with this every single day.

You are uninformative, how can you tell please that the GPS chip data come from Satellite please share it with us, all of other things can be manipulate without any need of satellites in my opinion you just need imagination.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 09, 2016, 08:38:21 PM »

Getting back to the subject at hand, ground based GPS  could not provide altitude information.

It depends where you direct your signal by the antennas it has nothing to do with satellites.
There are tons of antennas around the world you just need to pick the signal from the sky, there where the antennas point.

You don't understand. The GPS transmiitter has to be higher than the aircraft to give altitude information, A little GPs research should clear up your q.

What the difference between the transmitter being taller than the aircraft or the signal from the transmitter be higher than aircraft, you can use plenty of transmitters for such a deal.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 09, 2016, 08:32:40 PM »

Someone has posted that GPS do not work at Sahara, I will argue that it won't work at places with low coverage from GPS Mountain based antennas.
What happen is that antennas all over the world cover with frequencies a lot of space and then you have your signal to GPS.

The best place to put such an antenna is at mountains, there you can has a lot of connections all over the world, second thing is what we call microwave:
You launch signals from far away and the signal get caught on ground and allow you navigate safely.

Rayzor once said there is a specific frequency - yes this is the frequency for GPS Mountain based antennas.
When we know that antennas are hundreds of kilometers far away even thousands of kilometers we can assume that the antenna is in a very remote part of the world, or at very far away part of the world,
The world is full of signals of antennas that's all.

There are satellites at space they produce useless photos but not GPS signal.

Disclaimer:
That's my theory I am not a professional I am just want to speculate according to the laws of this forum.

How many mountains.are there in the middle of the oceans ?

There are many ways to spread signals across the ocean.

Okay. Like, which?

1) Nearby mountain antennas can launch very powerful rays to the ocean and then you can pick them from high altitude,
2)you can use the stratosphere or the concavity of the earth.
3)powerful antennas can launch very powerful rays and signal to the sky then the rays declining or sinking down and what you have to do is to pick the signal from air.

But you kind of miss some key points.

1. Based on GPS data, you can calculate the exact position of any given GPS satellite that your GPS chip is receiving from

2. "Very powerful rays" is.. Well, vague. What kind of "rays"? Frequency, band etc. Those kind of information are kind of... Important. Different bands and frequencies have different properties, pros and cons, especially when it comes to either bouncing off of he upper atmosphere or following the earth's curvature (like VHF for instance)

3. Picking something from high altitudes, I assume that you them refer to line-of-sight. With what then? Extremely tall GPS antennas?

1)maybe you can calculate the antenna distance from you and it could be very far away antenna as well.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 09, 2016, 08:29:07 PM »

Getting back to the subject at hand, ground based GPS  could not provide altitude information.

It depends where you direct your signal by the antennas it has nothing to do with satellites.
There are tons of antennas around the world you just need to pick the signal from the sky, there where the antennas point.

You really need to do some research on GPS systems. Otherwise you are making no sense. As mentioned , GPS transmiitters operate
on special frequencies, special designs and special modes of operation. For one thing, the GPS transmitter must be higher above the object below to give altitude information. Since aircraft operate at altitudes of 30,00 feet or more, ground based towers would have to be at least 30,000 feet tall.

They can direct their rays to high altitude above 30000ft and then the Aircraft will pick it.
I have already told before that there are special frequencies.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Shadow Object Explanation of a Lunar Eclipse is Impossible!

« on: November 09, 2016, 07:39:50 PM »

I tried explain a lot of things yet I am sure that the lunar eclipse is caused the globe shadow.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Half-sunken ships Restored by simply looking at them through a Telescope

« on: November 09, 2016, 07:39:07 PM »

The sinking ship is a absolutely a mirage - when hot air and cold water meets together the ship and its exhaust make it to seems dropping and go downwards.
The image is distorted according to the ability of the air portraying in such depths(most of the ships got the image in certain depths).

Wait a sec, you are telling me that this boat isn't actually floating?



Something something Eratosthenes...

it is the result of the air trying to portrait accurately the forces press on it.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 09, 2016, 07:34:03 PM »

Getting back to the subject at hand, ground based GPS  could not provide altitude information.

It depends where you direct your signal by the antennas it has nothing to do with satellites.
There are tons of antennas around the world you just need to pick the signal from the sky, there where the antennas point.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 09, 2016, 07:32:30 PM »

Someone has posted that GPS do not work at Sahara, I will argue that it won't work at places with low coverage from GPS Mountain based antennas.
What happen is that antennas all over the world cover with frequencies a lot of space and then you have your signal to GPS.

The best place to put such an antenna is at mountains, there you can has a lot of connections all over the world, second thing is what we call microwave:
You launch signals from far away and the signal get caught on ground and allow you navigate safely.

Rayzor once said there is a specific frequency - yes this is the frequency for GPS Mountain based antennas.
When we know that antennas are hundreds of kilometers far away even thousands of kilometers we can assume that the antenna is in a very remote part of the world, or at very far away part of the world,
The world is full of signals of antennas that's all.

There are satellites at space they produce useless photos but not GPS signal.

Disclaimer:
That's my theory I am not a professional I am just want to speculate according to the laws of this forum.

I don't get it. If you're not a professional, why do you theorize over things that are perfectly well-known to professionals?

It seems like you need to find alternative explanations to things already explained, only to support the belief of a flat earth, for the sake of only yourself.

It's illogical.

I may become professional one day

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 09, 2016, 07:31:51 PM »

Someone has posted that GPS do not work at Sahara, I will argue that it won't work at places with low coverage from GPS Mountain based antennas.
What happen is that antennas all over the world cover with frequencies a lot of space and then you have your signal to GPS.

The best place to put such an antenna is at mountains, there you can has a lot of connections all over the world, second thing is what we call microwave:
You launch signals from far away and the signal get caught on ground and allow you navigate safely.

Rayzor once said there is a specific frequency - yes this is the frequency for GPS Mountain based antennas.
When we know that antennas are hundreds of kilometers far away even thousands of kilometers we can assume that the antenna is in a very remote part of the world, or at very far away part of the world,
The world is full of signals of antennas that's all.

There are satellites at space they produce useless photos but not GPS signal.

Disclaimer:
That's my theory I am not a professional I am just want to speculate according to the laws of this forum.

How many mountains.are there in the middle of the oceans ?

There are many ways to spread signals across the ocean.

Okay. Like, which?

1) Nearby mountain antennas can launch very powerful rays to the ocean and then you can pick them from high altitude,
2)you can use the stratosphere or the concavity of the earth.
3)powerful antennas can launch very powerful rays and signal to the sky then the rays declining or sinking down and what you have to do is to pick the signal from air.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 09, 2016, 06:31:58 PM »

Someone has posted that GPS do not work at Sahara, I will argue that it won't work at places with low coverage from GPS Mountain based antennas.
What happen is that antennas all over the world cover with frequencies a lot of space and then you have your signal to GPS.

The best place to put such an antenna is at mountains, there you can has a lot of connections all over the world, second thing is what we call microwave:
You launch signals from far away and the signal get caught on ground and allow you navigate safely.

Rayzor once said there is a specific frequency - yes this is the frequency for GPS Mountain based antennas.
When we know that antennas are hundreds of kilometers far away even thousands of kilometers we can assume that the antenna is in a very remote part of the world, or at very far away part of the world,
The world is full of signals of antennas that's all.

There are satellites at space they produce useless photos but not GPS signal.

Disclaimer:
That's my theory I am not a professional I am just want to speculate according to the laws of this forum.

How many mountains.are there in the middle of the oceans ?

There are many ways to spread signals across the ocean.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Half-sunken ships Restored by simply looking at them through a Telescope

« on: November 09, 2016, 05:39:02 AM »

The sinking ship is a absolutely a mirage - when hot air and cold water meets together the ship and its exhaust make it to seems dropping and go downwards.
The image is distorted according to the ability of the air portraying in such depths(most of the ships got the image in certain depths).

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Flat Earth Community / I want to hear again the excuses why GPS cannot be ground based ?

« on: November 09, 2016, 12:11:58 AM »

Someone has posted that GPS do not work at Sahara, I will argue that it won't work at places with low coverage from GPS Mountain based antennas.
What happen is that antennas all over the world cover with frequencies a lot of space and then you have your signal to GPS.

The best place to put such an antenna is at mountains, there you can has a lot of connections all over the world, second thing is what we call microwave:
You launch signals from far away and the signal get caught on ground and allow you navigate safely.

Rayzor once said there is a specific frequency - yes this is the frequency for GPS Mountain based antennas.
When we know that antennas are hundreds of kilometers far away even thousands of kilometers we can assume that the antenna is in a very remote part of the world, or at very far away part of the world,
The world is full of signals of antennas that's all.

There are satellites at space they produce useless photos but not GPS signal.

Disclaimer:
That's my theory I am not a professional I am just want to speculate according to the laws of this forum.