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Flat Earth Theory / Re: it all begin with the will...
« on: November 30, 2016, 12:34:46 AM »
The world was built to serve the idea of round earth and all of his implications and the big idea is make people be united.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: it all begin with the will...
« on: November 30, 2016, 12:31:14 AM »
The measurements of satellites in few meters might be right, but when you proceed in space they are getting lost because space is changing while you walk,all around you.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: it all begin with the will...
« on: November 30, 2016, 12:28:01 AM »
The will is the beginning of earth therefore earth is called in German welt - will let - approving the will,
the world is based on and all his halls based on the round earth theory - you cannot use the same method of round earth to approve flat earth, you have to be wiser.

Your vision is distorted. when you were a child the world seems bigger because your vision hadn't spoiled yet, but when you grow up your vision going according to earth's will.
When you see a building which is 30 meters high it may seem to you like a 100 meters high.
The space, the earthly space is full of visionary distortion allow you unnoticing the true measures and scales of your landscapes.

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Flat Earth Theory / it all begin with the will...
« on: November 30, 2016, 12:23:58 AM »
Those round earthers - have formulas after formulas to claim the earth is round, so they have every basis to claim the earth is round because they found formulas to every flaw, such as:the earth is tilted, the moon orbit is tilted - you can do it for every kind of module, you can provide formulas for every kind of module and for centuries based all the world according to the module.
So measurements are based according to the modules therefore don't try to prove flat earth through measurements, they are already corrupted.

I have my measurements - I looked into one of the satellites famous maps and calculate within my head and emotion if the measurements are valid. and they are not - try it yourself, walk for 200 meters according to satellite map and tell yourself if you walked 200 meter.
Look before you walk this distance and see if it really look like 200 meters - I am telling you, I looked a 200 meters distance according to satellites and it looked like 1km at least.

My theory: the vastness of space, earthly space is stretching while you walk and proceed in space, this means that a building you look at is not exactly how it looks and how much space it take.
when you walk your vision and your timing is in slow-motion but if you look behind you, you may see you have walked much more than if you look forward.



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Too long comment, if you want to persuade someone you should speak much more light English and much shorter.
Oh, for crying out loud!  If he gave you any shorter an answer, it wouldn't contain any actual information.  You want a substantive answer, you're going to have to read a few words with four or five syllables.

Come, come! He won't understand that, Just count all those syllables in "information" (1,2 ? too many!) and  "substantive" (1,2 ? too many!).

Just imagine using "Heliocentric" - the mind boggles.
You are genius at telling people how evil and pathetic you can get.

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Can someone explain to me, why when we see ship or buildings from long distance they are as taken from animation ?,
I know it is because of the air, it is not crystal clear and showing things according to the forces working on it ? but what yours excuse ?

Can you explain what you mean by a "they are as taken from animation" ?
The Horizon looks like clumsy painting.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: I can debunk everything with round earth just ask
« on: November 18, 2016, 05:27:34 AM »
You claim that you can "debunk everything with round earth",
It's in the name ;)

Just sayin' "I can debunk everything with round earth" don't prove nuttin'.

Truth just continues to make outlandish claims with no supporting evidence.
I have no evidences because people who has agenda block my way to provide evidences, such as universities , treaties , jobs, if they would give me simple opportunity I would make this place full of wisdom.
If what you claim is true, al least show us eveidence of anyone "who has agenda block my way to provide evidences".

You are the one that claimed "I can debunk everything with round earth just ask" so don't bitch to us with all you imagined excuses.

The evidence for the the globe has been gathered over millenia and nobody is hiding anything, that's just coming fro your paranoid mind.

So, back up your claim of "I can debunk everything with round earth just ask" or just admit you were wrong.
I admit I were wrong, just go away I have nothing more to discuss with you.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Let do an experiment with certain rules
« on: November 18, 2016, 03:43:13 AM »
I see the sun rise from behind the horizon and set behind the horizon (I have plenty of photos of sunsets)

The sun stays the same size from sunrise to sunset, that is evidence that its distance stays constant (not possible on the Flat earth) or very far distant compared to any change in distance.
          I have photos verifying this, though I did not take them, they were taken by a Flat Earther trying to prove the opposite!

Almost the same observations apply to the moon's rising, setting and size (I have plenty of my own photos of this).

We could get onto the stars and planets,
          but just which of the numerous Flat Earth models am I looking for evidence against? Every Flat Earther their own ideas.

There that's a start.
Very good, Thank you for your post,
This is a good evidence for thinking the earth to be peculiar shape, but could you tell what shape it is for sure ?

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Too long comment, if you want to persuade someone you should speak much more light English and much shorter.

perhaps.  i would be happy to try to better explain anything from my post that you found unclear.
What did you want to say ?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: I can debunk everything with round earth just ask
« on: November 18, 2016, 02:27:39 AM »
You claim that you can "debunk everything with round earth",
It's in the name ;)

Just sayin' "I can debunk everything with round earth" don't prove nuttin'.

Truth just continues to make outlandish claims with no supporting evidence.
I have no evidences because people who has agenda block my way to provide evidences, such as universities , treaties , jobs, if they would give me simple opportunity I would make this place full of wisdom.

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No reliance on governments or universities is required.  For example, one can verify the validity of Kepler's and Newton's laws by observing what are called "visual binary" star systems.  These are double-star systems in which each member of the binary can be fully resolved and does not eclipse the other, and there are plenty of nearby double-star systems nearby that can be fully resolved with amateur equipment.  It's just a matter of having the time and patience to make careful observations for a long time.  I think the shortest period of any of the nearby visual binaries is something like 2 years.
Too long comment, if you want to persuade someone you should speak much more light English and much shorter.

Don't make me break out my hand puppets.
What ?

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Flat Earth Media / Re: All of my working will be here
« on: November 18, 2016, 01:33:42 AM »
Please explain your findings in simple words I am really curious.

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Even Newtonian Gravitation is almost perfectly accurate within the Solar System and is used in almost all orbital calculations, with relativistic corrections where necessary.

How many orbital calculations do you run a week? Have you been to space? Have you launched a satellite?

So your burden of proof is whether or not the information you're regarding was given to you by an official government agency or something?

No reliance on governments or universities is required.  For example, one can verify the validity of Kepler's and Newton's laws by observing what are called "visual binary" star systems.  These are double-star systems in which each member of the binary can be fully resolved and does not eclipse the other, and there are plenty of nearby double-star systems nearby that can be fully resolved with amateur equipment.  It's just a matter of having the time and patience to make careful observations for a long time.  I think the shortest period of any of the nearby visual binaries is something like 2 years.
Too long comment, if you want to persuade someone you should speak much more light English and much shorter.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Let do an experiment with certain rules
« on: November 18, 2016, 01:18:22 AM »
Please use short comments, not overload theories.

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Flat Earth Theory / Let do an experiment with certain rules
« on: November 18, 2016, 01:16:16 AM »
We have to give our proofs for our modules only according to our personal experience not by any source of information (Media,wikipedia,university)

According to my own experience I don't know what the shape of earth.

but I am waiting to people like intikam and other to share their experience

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Can someone explain to me, why when we see ship or buildings from long distance they are as taken from animation ?,
I know it is because of the air, it is not crystal clear and showing things according to the forces working on it ? but what yours excuse ?

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I saw the title of this thread and was actually excited about the possibility of an interesting and engaging debate/discussion.  Clicking on the link ended up being as big a disappointment as opening the largest birthday present only to find underwear.


As to this gem:

"it is the process of the tectonic plates to make sure the earth will change its form."

Tectonic movement changes the way Earth looks but it doesn't change Earth's form.

If you truly do believe Earth's form changes due to tectonic movement I'm interested in hearing the physics (which would constantly be in flux) you propose to accommodate such change in form.
Well I am using the anti-dogmatic attitude for my hypothesis, so it goes like that:
Science theories are successful sometimes and sometimes are not, so I try to find how the world can have more exciting hypothesis according to the successful science.
I do not possess the resources to handle such a request by you, if I could join some scientists around the world and make experiments with the right equipment I could answer many many questions, and that's not because the other scientists are not worthy enough, that's because I have very good sense to things.

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Globe earth is true, while it is not 100% true there are many characteristics which the earth can do like changing phases.

The earth cannot "change phases" - it is a solid object.
it is the process of the tectonic plates to make sure the earth will change its form.

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Now people will tell me with their idiotic conscience how I use the computer and people paid much hardship to invent it.
I say to you, people who had no opportunities at all  could brought us to mars 100 times and to settle it as well, that's if they would have the opportunity.

The Equation is that the gifted people get stucked while the idiotic ungifted low-graded are promoted.

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Flat Earth Theory / People want the globe earth to win because of religion
« on: November 14, 2016, 02:17:14 AM »
The meaning of Globe earth and chemtrails and silicon trees and all of these. is to preserve the idea that things are never changed therefore people should appreciate the people who preserve the monotonous and static environment of earth.
when the earth is static and non-moving and non-changing low-graded people can be admired, while the successful are the opposite.
this is the case where ungifted people ruling the world Atmosphere while the people who make this world much more great, are found behind cannot do nothing.

The idea to make the lowest gifted person into great ones and the great ones into low-gifted.

This is the idea of religion - take the idea of evolution which says the most adaptable succeed and turn it into opposite.

Religion is all about monotonous and admiring of the weak and the most feeble in imagination.

Globe earth is true, while it is not 100% true there are many characteristics which the earth can do like changing phases.

But the idea that we have no place to carry on our efforts to make ourselves better and better it is the flag of science and religion.

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