So you are telling me to belive the text and not my own senses? Zetetic methodology be damned?
There are two things here:
- Your own senses do not contradict the text. You don't have to choose between the two.
- Yes, fanatical Zeteticism is just as bad as fanatical anything else.
Point #1 is the one to pay attention to, mainly. You are presenting the same scenario twice using different words, and claiming that there is a difference. There isn't. Your intuition is failing you (and I don't blame you for it - relativity is unintuitive. Many things about our surroundings aren't intuitive, that's why it took humanity thousands of years to figure them out), and you're refusing to patch up the gaps in your understanding, just defaulting to a response of "nuh uh i know what i felt". If you don't want to be helped, nobody will be able to help you.
You might have missed this in my OP but I have not found the exact quote from Einstein, got it handy? In his examples, who and where were the observers that could not tell a difference?
It's not a "quote", it's a principle of physics. RE gravitational mass is identical to inertial mass. You'll find comprehensive descriptions of it in any high school physics textbook, and on Wikipedia.
"nuh uh i know what i felt"
LOL, really? So much for polite debate.
In the last post you said "Once again - thanks to the Equivalence Principle, we know there would be no physical difference between the two scenarios." Like you said, if you will not listen no one can help you. There is a huge physical difference in the question of what is moving, me or the floor. Saying I am denying basic physics is a BS excuse for not addressing the actual questions, it is way more of a "nuh uh" than I did.
So again, in my 2 scenarous, sealed in a tube, one falling and the other the floor rushing up, that is the same? You are telling me I would feel the same exact sensations?
You also seem to discount the bodies ability to detect a change in velocity, at least until Tom Bs version came out. Dishonest. Had you presented that like he did it would be different.