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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #360 on: July 21, 2020, 01:10:43 AM »
Good news. Trump to send more federal law enforcement into cities.


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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #361 on: July 21, 2020, 08:34:50 AM »
Good news. Trump to send more federal law enforcement into cities.

... for unidentified troops to sweep in, silently gather people off the streets and carry them off in unmarked vehicles, just like Portland?

Is that the kind of America you want, Tom, where citizens can disappear, and witnesses to the disappearance have NO IDEA who has taken them, and where they have been taken? Where the troops making them disappear say nothing, do not tell the citizen WHY they are being taken away, do not charge them with any offence, and do not read them their rights?

Edited for my grammer mistake

Further edit; The ACTING head of DHS says "I don't need invitations by the state, state mayors, or state governors to do our jobs. We're going to do that, whether they like us there or not"

Are they liberators who will be welcomed by the populace, or a hostile occupying force, sent to suppress them?
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #362 on: July 21, 2020, 10:05:53 AM »
Yes, ignore the part where he wants to increase the funding to police departments.
Describe exactly what form the supposed increase is.

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #363 on: July 21, 2020, 10:35:16 AM »
Good news. Trump to send more federal law enforcement into cities.

... for unidentified troops to sweep in, silently gather people off the streets and carry them off in unmarked vehicles, just like Portland?

Is that the kind of America you want, Tom, where citizens can disappear, and witnesses to the disappearance have NO IDEA who has taken them, and where they have been taken? Where the troops making them disappear say nothing, do not tell the citizen WHY they are being taken away, do not charge them with any offence, and do not read them their rights?

Edited for my grammer mistake

Further edit; The ACTING head of DHS says "I don't need invitations by the state, state mayors, or state governors to do our jobs. We're going to do that, whether they like us there or not"

Are they liberators who will be welcomed by the populace, or a hostile occupying force, sent to suppress them?
Suppress them from doing what?

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #364 on: July 21, 2020, 12:02:17 PM »
Yes, ignore the part where he wants to increase the funding to police departments.
Describe exactly what form the supposed increase is.

Funding.
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #365 on: July 21, 2020, 12:29:23 PM »
Yes, ignore the part where he wants to increase the funding to police departments.
Describe exactly what form the supposed increase is.

Funding.
What form is the supposed funding supplied?

Describe it.

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #366 on: July 21, 2020, 01:04:54 PM »
Yes, ignore the part where he wants to increase the funding to police departments.
Describe exactly what form the supposed increase is.

Funding.
What form is the supposed funding supplied?

Describe it.

I encourage you to go read instead of playing a clumsy game of 'gotcha!'
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #367 on: July 21, 2020, 03:29:58 PM »
Yes, ignore the part where he wants to increase the funding to police departments.
Describe exactly what form the supposed increase is.

Funding.
What form is the supposed funding supplied?

Describe it.

I encourage you to go read instead of playing a clumsy game of 'gotcha!'
I am not playing a clumsy game of "gotcha."

If it is truly there, then you can just as well cite the specific form of the supposed funding.

You cannot.

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #368 on: July 21, 2020, 03:33:10 PM »
Cool so you won’t even look. Chris Wallace corrected Trump on it in his interview. Joe Biden has made official announcements about it. Be a good skeptic and don’t take my word for it.
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #369 on: July 21, 2020, 03:52:49 PM »
Cool so you won’t even look. Chris Wallace corrected Trump on it in his interview. Joe Biden has made official announcements about it. Be a good skeptic and don’t take my word for it.
Oh, I looked.

I was wondering if you had looked.

Joe Biden stated clearly he was going to redirect funds from the police to other programs.

No question about that.

The question is, why should I believe Chris Wallace when redirecting funding from the police programs does indeed = defunding police programs.

If you were getting 2 dollars a day from a source and now are getting 1 dollar a day from that same source, you would not consider that defunding?

That's a pretty simple question.

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #370 on: July 21, 2020, 04:35:53 PM »
He also promised to add $300M to reinvigorate community policing.
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #371 on: July 21, 2020, 07:05:50 PM »
Joe Biden said that funding should be redirected.

The Epoch Times - Biden Says Some Funding Should Be Redirected From Police Departments - "Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden said Wednesday that some funding should be redirected from police departments as some activists and Democrats have called to 'defund the police' in the wake of protests and riots across the United States in recent weeks."

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #372 on: July 21, 2020, 09:10:13 PM »
Good news. Trump to send more federal law enforcement into cities.



Pardon me if I am incorrectly assuming, but it was my impression that you are in favor of less government/federal intervention in the lives of American's, not more???

How is this a good thing?
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #373 on: July 22, 2020, 11:27:10 AM »
Good news. Trump to send more federal law enforcement into cities.



Pardon me if I am incorrectly assuming, but it was my impression that you are in favor of less government/federal intervention in the lives of American's, not more???

How is this a good thing?
I am in favor of less government/federal intervention in the lives of law abiding Americans.

So is Tom, I am sure.

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #374 on: July 22, 2020, 11:29:48 AM »
I am in favor of less government/federal intervention in the lives of law abiding Americans. So is Tom, I am sure.

So you agree that those who are exercising their First Amendment rights to free assembly, petition and protest (I'm paraphrasing 1A) are law-abiding citizens, then?

And that any inhibition of their rights is unwarranted federal intervention?
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #375 on: July 22, 2020, 11:35:56 AM »
I am in favor of less government/federal intervention in the lives of law abiding Americans. So is Tom, I am sure.

So you agree that those who are exercising their First Amendment rights to free assembly, petition and protest (I'm paraphrasing 1A) are law-abiding citizens, then?

And that any inhibition of their rights is unwarranted federal intervention?
Of course.

People who are engaging in legitimate free assembly and engaging in the filing of legitimate petitions should be protected.

Always should be.
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #376 on: July 22, 2020, 01:56:43 PM »
People who are engaging in legitimate free assembly and engaging in the filing of legitimate petitions should be protected.

So, for instance, beating such people with batons would be wrong?
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #377 on: July 22, 2020, 03:16:07 PM »
People who are engaging in legitimate free assembly and engaging in the filing of legitimate petitions should be protected.

So, for instance, beating such people with batons would be wrong?
I am unsure how you equate the word "be protected," with "beating with batons."

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #378 on: July 22, 2020, 03:22:36 PM »
Right, In favor of less government/federal intervention in the lives of law abiding Americans, but think it's fine that a guy was pinned to the ground for dancing since dancing is so suspicious and we must be protected against people dancing.

Ok.
Tom is wrong most of the time. Hardly big news, don't you think?

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #379 on: July 22, 2020, 03:33:29 PM »
Right, In favor of less government/federal intervention in the lives of law abiding Americans, but think it's fine that a guy was pinned to the ground for dancing since dancing is so suspicious and we must be protected against people dancing.

Ok.
The guy wasn't pinned down for dancing in the street.

We went over that already.