Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #840 on: August 08, 2014, 10:51:40 PM »
Nope, that one is courtesy of google and that average Stiller movie.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #841 on: August 09, 2014, 12:37:22 AM »
I thought we were talking about setting, not game mechanics. Combat is shitty in every ES game. Rushy, can you give us an example of a fictional setting that is relatively unique?

Are you just going to ask the same question until the answer is different? I might as well be trying to discuss Morrowind with a graffiti'd brick wall.

That was the first time I asked that question. I changed the question so that you would be more comfortable with the phrasing. Since absolutele uniqueness is impossible, I'm now asking about relative uniqueness. I ask because I'm curious about your perception of uniqueness in fiction.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #842 on: August 09, 2014, 12:48:12 AM »
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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #843 on: August 09, 2014, 02:09:29 AM »
That was the first time I asked that question. I changed the question so that you would be more comfortable with the phrasing. Since absolutele uniqueness is impossible, I'm now asking about relative uniqueness. I ask because I'm curious about your perception of uniqueness in fiction.

That isn't relevant. The original observation by Saddam is that Oblivion is a generic fantasy game, but Morrowind is not. I have showed that the setting of both games is generic, by listing generic elements and commenting on their appearance in Morrowind (and Oblivion). If you're interested in quantifying "uniqueness" I suggest starting another thread where I'm sure lots of other like-minded people will come to a fruitful discussion with you.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #844 on: August 09, 2014, 02:13:03 AM »
Why won't you answer the question? You may as well just answer it. I'm going to respond the same way no matter what answer you give. It will be something like

>thinks Morrowind is generic
>thinks [Psychonauts or whatever] is unique
>uwotm8.ppt
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« Reply #845 on: August 09, 2014, 02:15:29 AM »
Why won't you answer the question? You may as well just answer it. I'm going to respond the same way no matter what answer you give. It will be something like

>thinks Morrowind is generic
>thinks [Psychonauts or whatever] is unique
>uwotm8.ppt

If you're looking for verification for your love of an overly abundant generic fantasy game by comparing it to Psychonauts, then I'm afraid you've come to the wrong place. You should start that thread I suggested earlier.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #846 on: August 09, 2014, 02:18:11 AM »
I think you misunderstood.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #847 on: August 09, 2014, 02:18:54 AM »
Have it your way, Rushy.  Morrowind is less generic than Oblivion, in many very distinctive ways.  There. ::)

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #848 on: August 09, 2014, 02:25:39 AM »
That's not the real problem with Morrowind. Cliff racers are.

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« Reply #849 on: August 09, 2014, 02:26:53 AM »
Have it your way, Rushy.  Morrowind is less generic than Oblivion, in many very distinctive ways.  There. ::)

Morrowind is much more generic than Oblivion.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #850 on: August 09, 2014, 02:39:52 AM »
I disagree.  Most fantasy looks just like Oblivion and almost nothing like Morrowind.

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« Reply #851 on: August 09, 2014, 03:40:15 AM »
Shitload of trolling ITT.
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« Reply #852 on: August 09, 2014, 03:47:43 AM »
I disagree.  Most fantasy looks just like Oblivion and almost nothing like Morrowind.

That's a completely different statement. It is, however, still wrong.

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« Reply #853 on: August 09, 2014, 03:59:41 AM »
Explain how this:


looks less generic than this:
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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #854 on: August 09, 2014, 05:39:19 AM »
Morrowind's landscapes were obviously inspired by Mario. Mario has been around since the 80s. Not very original, imo.

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« Reply #855 on: August 09, 2014, 06:44:51 AM »
Explain how this:


looks less generic than this:


Sorry, but those both look like generic fantasy landscapes to me. Explain what is so unique about one or the other?

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« Reply #856 on: August 09, 2014, 10:23:35 AM »
Sorry, but those both look like generic fantasy landscapes to me. Explain what is so unique about one or the other?

The top image looks like landscape I can see by walking for about 10 minutes. The bottom one has mushroom trees. Stop being such a neandertard.

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« Reply #857 on: August 09, 2014, 10:24:12 AM »
Explain what is so unique about one or the other?

But you're the one making that claim.

Morrowind is much more generic than Oblivion.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #858 on: August 09, 2014, 01:06:26 PM »
In fairness to Oblivion, it might have been fairly generic, but it was very, very pretty.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #859 on: August 09, 2014, 01:31:51 PM »
The top image looks like landscape I can see by walking for about 10 minutes. The bottom one has mushroom trees. Stop being such a neandertard.

They're both generic for a fantasy setting. What you do or don't see walking for 10 minutes is irrelevant. Also, I could introduce you to some things that might or might not result in giant mushroom trees while you're walking, your mileage may vary.

Explain what is so unique about one or the other?

But you're the one making that claim.

Morrowind is much more generic than Oblivion.

Yes.