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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: March 05, 2024, 11:01:36 AM »

The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.

No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.

Yeah, I did read it. It is up to Congress to determine that. And they already did in the 2nd Impeachment.

Incorrect.
Congress does not determine guilt or innocence.  Otherwise Bill Clinton did nothing wrong.

Trump was acquitted in the 2nd Impeachment.

Congress did not bar Trump from holding a federal office.

So, you are incorrect.

As usual.

You are correct, I am.

Well, thats a bad ruling.  Means insurrection is ok so long as your party controls congress.

Joe better get impeached, then, so he can be immune to legal issues later.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: March 05, 2024, 09:34:32 AM »

The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.

No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.

Yeah, I did read it. It is up to Congress to determine that. And they already did in the 2nd Impeachment.

Incorrect.
Congress does not determine guilt or innocence.  Otherwise Bill Clinton did nothing wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: March 04, 2024, 09:12:18 PM »

The ruling from the Supreme effectively buries any talk of Trump participating in an insurrection. Which was just more bullshit spewed by the communists anyway.

No it doesn't.  Did you not read the ruling?
The ruling stated that states can't decide how to implement section 3 on their own.  Only the federal government can.  Nothing about if Trump is or isn't guilty.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Biden is using American taxpayer money to pay off my loans

« on: March 03, 2024, 05:38:35 PM »

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/28/us-medical-schools-that-dont-charge-tuition.html

TLDR: Rich old woman gives $1 Billion dollars to a medical school.  The medical school is now tuition free for the foreseeable future.

So apparently it takes $1 Billion dollars to make a medical school free for all for a very long time. (I won't say forever because forever is a long time).  Makes you wonder how long it would take to make every medical school in the country tuition free if the US used most of its defense budget on that.

Oh... 1 year.

https://medicalaid.org/how-many-medical-schools-in-us-the-definitive-guide-2023/#:~:text=How%20Many%20Medical%20Schools%20in%20the%20US%3F,existing%20schools%20expand%20their%20programs.

192 medical schools in America.
The defense budget is $842 billion in 2024.
So cutting down by $192 billion and giving to every medical student's tuition would basically end tuition for med students for the forseeable future.

Go figure!  Wonder why they don't do that?

Two major problems:

1. Paying tuition for students doesn't solve the fundamental problem of over-indulgent universities charging too much.
2. The defense budget is driving Pax Americana

The results of your budget plan:

1. Universities become even more greedy since Uncle Sam is paying the bills (they already do this with the GI Bill, suspiciously, most universities have semester hour rates that match the GI Bill maximum payout exactly).
2. Significantly more conflicts break out across the planet and global trade is degraded.

1. This is not a "send us the bill" this is a "we give you $1 billion dollars and you stop charging tuition." Thus they can't overcharge for anything.

2. $192 billion is like 20% of the budget.  And realistically, just divide it up by a few years.  No one's going to realistically notice.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Biden is using American taxpayer money to pay off my loans

« on: March 03, 2024, 10:21:32 AM »

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/28/us-medical-schools-that-dont-charge-tuition.html

TLDR: Rich old woman gives $1 Billion dollars to a medical school.  The medical school is now tuition free for the foreseeable future.

So apparently it takes $1 Billion dollars to make a medical school free for all for a very long time. (I won't say forever because forever is a long time).  Makes you wonder how long it would take to make every medical school in the country tuition free if the US used most of its defense budget on that.

Oh... 1 year.

https://medicalaid.org/how-many-medical-schools-in-us-the-definitive-guide-2023/#:~:text=How%20Many%20Medical%20Schools%20in%20the%20US%3F,existing%20schools%20expand%20their%20programs.

192 medical schools in America.
The defense budget is $842 billion in 2024.
So cutting down by $192 billion and giving to every medical student's tuition would basically end tuition for med students for the forseeable future.

Go figure!  Wonder why they don't do that?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: March 02, 2024, 04:14:23 PM »

And therefore not a leader but a spokesman or figurehead.

Wow. Ok, look up the definition of the word "president" as it pertains to our government and get back to me. This isn't the fucking Royal Family we're talking about here.

Yes yes.  He was a leader by legal right.  But just because you're called the boss, doesn't mean you're a leader.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: March 02, 2024, 08:32:14 AM »

Biden just isn’t well enough to be president. He’s not well enough physically or mentally.

Hmm. I dunno about this. To me, one of them (Trump, to avoid ambiguity) has bad intentions, while the other one is "just" in bad health*. We definitely agree that neither is ideal. But, to me, it seems like our options are a comparably healthy person who's actively malicious, and one person who might end up handing power over to another milquetoast Democrat if things get bad enough.

* - if we even accept that narrative to begin with. I honestly don't know if he's any worse than Trump on that front. Recall the hysteria around Trump's health when he was president - and the counter-argument in which his health was declared to be Truly Presidential™ by his doctor.

I'm not sure Trump is actually malicious. He's not trying to take America down from the inside.

Interesting take, that the man who literally led a violent effort to subvert our Democratic process isn't "actually malicious". I'm sure a lot of people who aren't crazy about Trump but can't stomach the thought of 4 more years of Biden are rationalizing things the same way.

It's demonstrably wrong, of course...

He strongly encouraged others to do a thing.  Not really leading, per se.

That being said, maybe he's so delusional with rich man privledge that he honestly thinks he won?

Dave, he was asking for it for months. His followers wouldn't have been there if he hadn't been asking for it. He was the leader of our country, and for a lot of people he held, and still holds, the power of a cult leader, and he encouraged his followers to lead an insurrection to subvert our Democratic process and install him as a dictator.

I can't imagine how it can be argued that he didn't literally lead it.

I'd argue it (weakly) that he's got the leadership skills of a chatbot.  And therefore not a leader but a spokesman or figurehead.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: March 01, 2024, 08:13:56 PM »

Biden just isn’t well enough to be president. He’s not well enough physically or mentally.

Hmm. I dunno about this. To me, one of them (Trump, to avoid ambiguity) has bad intentions, while the other one is "just" in bad health*. We definitely agree that neither is ideal. But, to me, it seems like our options are a comparably healthy person who's actively malicious, and one person who might end up handing power over to another milquetoast Democrat if things get bad enough.

* - if we even accept that narrative to begin with. I honestly don't know if he's any worse than Trump on that front. Recall the hysteria around Trump's health when he was president - and the counter-argument in which his health was declared to be Truly Presidential™ by his doctor.

I'm not sure Trump is actually malicious. He's not trying to take America down from the inside.

Interesting take, that the man who literally led a violent effort to subvert our Democratic process isn't "actually malicious". I'm sure a lot of people who aren't crazy about Trump but can't stomach the thought of 4 more years of Biden are rationalizing things the same way.

It's demonstrably wrong, of course...

He strongly encouraged others to do a thing.  Not really leading, per se.

That being said, maybe he's so delusional with rich man privledge that he honestly thinks he won? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: March 01, 2024, 11:43:01 AM »

Yeah, see, ask me what I did 5 years ago and I'll look at you with a blank stare.
Even in my prime, I couldn't remember much past a few days.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 23, 2024, 03:15:46 PM »

Mine is about how slaves were the only thing worth fighting for.
(I'm serious.   There's a passage where a city is being seiged and the enemy took all the riches.  The king did nothing.  Then they took all yhe women and children.  The king did nothing.  Then they were gonna take the servants.  The king sent 12 of his sons out and they slaughtered the whole army.)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 21, 2024, 07:38:26 AM »

Well, it looks like you guys have missed out on another smart Trump investment.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=trump+sneakers&_sacat=0&_sop=16&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1

And did you buy yours, Tom?

Also, a markup of 500 to 1000% is unlikely.  Most likely its someone trying to cash in and inflating the bid himself or with other accounts.  I'd be ocked if most of these were sold.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: February 19, 2024, 02:07:10 PM »

So... Mixing up foreign names means he doesn't know where a border is?

Does that mean that if you mix up your coworker's name, you don't know where you work?

What name did he mix up?

What does my coworker have to do with the border?

The Egyptian and Mexican leaders.  As your link states.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 19, 2024, 11:51:16 AM »

Action is correct.
Trump isn't even selling them.


The products are "registered trademarks and/or trademarks of CIC Ventures LLC," per the website.

"Trump Sneakers are not designed, manufactured, distributed or sold by Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization or any of their respective affiliates or principals," it notes.
"45Footwear, LLC uses the Trump name, image and likeness under a license agreement."


He's just promoting someone else's sneakers.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: February 19, 2024, 11:39:39 AM »

How about the border?

How about radical inflation?

those are policy positions you don't like, not examples of biden's supposed mental deficiencies. unless you're saying he forgot the border existed or something? idgi.

i'm not taking a position on biden's policies, it's cool if you hate them. not my point.

Well, it is obvious he does not know where the border is, for christ sake.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2024/feb/09/israeli-offensive-on-gaza-over-the-top-says-biden-video

So... Mixing up foreign names means he doesn't know where a border is?

Does that mean that if you mix up your coworker's name, you don't know where you work?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 19, 2024, 07:38:05 AM »

D’oh! I meant…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-68329886

Heard about that.  Probably made in China.
And at $300, more expensive than Nike.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 18, 2024, 07:20:59 PM »

Grifter’s gotta grift

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-68280754

That links to a video about how crowded Rafah is.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: February 17, 2024, 01:37:51 PM »

Well, you said it made sense for Biden not to drop out. It doesn't.

Who would even replace him?

There surely has to be someone else who is vaguely popular and who has the mental ability to be the president. No?

I can't think of anyone off hand.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: February 17, 2024, 10:13:31 AM »

Well, you said it made sense for Biden not to drop out. It doesn't.

Who would even replace him?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: February 16, 2024, 05:40:37 PM »

Sitting presidents generally aren't primaried at all, to say nothing of the unique degree of loyalty and devotion that Trump's fans show him, so it makes no sense to compare this to other primaries to begin with. Obviously this is a unique situation. Your other point seems to more concerned with some imaginary game of saving face rather than winning the election. Refusing to address an obvious weakness simply because your opponent has already identified that weakness and you don't want to admit that they were right is insanity.

At what point did I claim US politics were sane?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: February 16, 2024, 01:05:15 PM »

Liberals aren't looking too confident about this to me. Apparently The Atlantic is shocked that Joe Biden would put his own self-regard ahead of the good of the country. They are begging for the DNC to pick a new candidate.

https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1757411805868036201

It makes sense not to.
If you pick a new candidate you're signaling that your current guy is weak. And if he's weak, Trump is correct, so what else is he right about?

Its no different than choosing not to let Trump get primaried in 2020.  If they did, he'd look weak and maybe the dems were right.