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Has anyone here heard of the "Stanford Prison Experiment"?

It was a study done in the 70s in which psychologists/sociologists were attempting to discover what effects "perceived power" would have on the actions of regular, good-will, people.

Basically, they took regular people and divided them into two groups: some acted as prisoners, others acted as guards. Then they assumed their role and 'acted' out a prison scenario.

It didn't take long before the "guards" became brutal and abused the prisoners.

The study was discontinued because violence quickly escalated, and laws were implemented to prevent this sort of study from happening again.

Although the study was never replicated, and did not complete, it was an eye-opener for many sociologists when trying to determine whether or not complaints of brutality were legitimate.

It was clear that giving someone a position of power was strongly correlated to an attitude of dominance. Those in positions of power were extremely likely to internalize that feeling of power, and act it out - it is important to note that "acting it out" was almost always associated with violence.

I think we see this over, and over, and over in the American executive system. Guards over-stepping their limits in prisons, police officers playing militant roles, abuse, corruption, etc.... we see this time and time again here in the states.

I am not in favor of disbanding, dismanteling, or de-funding/abolishing our police system, but I am in favor of rethinking our approach on justice, and police presents/actions. Even simply wearing a uniform creates a sense of power for some people - these are subtleties that need to be addressed.

This idea of us vs them mentally needs to be addressed.





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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 09, 2020, 03:41:26 PM »
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I've said before that not all Trump supports are evil, but this is the kind of idiot that makes me think it could be true.

Edit:

Seriously, WTF is wrong with this guy? A Trump supporter mocking the murder of George Floyd AND doing it under the campaign of the POTUS? Is this for real???

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 09, 2020, 02:33:32 PM »
Joe Biden explains why he has put forward no Economic Plan in his presidential campaign.



I fail to see how Biden stumbling over words to explain a horrific death are evidence of anything related to his abilities.
What abilities?

The ability to give a damn, for starters. Far and above number 45.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 09, 2020, 03:46:52 AM »
Joe Biden explains why he has put forward no Economic Plan in his presidential campaign.



I fail to see how Biden stumbling over words to explain a horrific death are evidence of anything related to his abilities.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 08, 2020, 03:04:32 PM »
Oh, by the way...I failed to include the word "not," in the post.

Evidently. you guys didn't get the gist...

Well, evidently I can read at least ;)

Edit:

I want to clarify my previous statement:

I do not think that ALL Trump supports are evil. Some of my family members support Trump - for reasons I think are foolish - but they support him nonetheless, and they are not evil people.

Those who would exploit a tragedy such as this, I would consider evil.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 08, 2020, 02:57:45 PM »

Please...Trump supporters do make it look like Black people are evil.

Evil people are evil.


Wow dude.... and you called me racist?

Trump supporters make themselves look evil.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 08, 2020, 02:37:53 PM »
Quote from: totallackey
I fail to see the problem with people who draw lines in the sand.

Then apparently you aren't tiring of the us vs them dynamic. Why even bring it up if that's the case?
Do people who who riot and injure others also divide?

How about people who torch and pillage?

Do they divide?

Those who are rioting and looting are on the wrong side of the line - they do not represent peaceful protestors. They are dividing, and masking the true message, and I can only suspect having a divisive leader will add fuel to the fire.

It is as though Trump drew the line, then stepped over to the other side. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 07, 2020, 08:39:11 PM »
So what's the big baby been up to lately?

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-trump-coronavirus-swab-factory-visit-maine-20200606-ll7a5oucvjadzp357y2zdqpwjm-story.html

Ah, forcing a factory to throw away boxes of coronavirus swabs by refusing to wear a mask during the visit.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29273182/drew-brees-stands-apology-flag-comments-response-president-trump

And getting into a feud with an NFL player over the kneeling issue.

Just being a big stupid baby as usual it seems.

Ugh..... this guy... I have been searching for the words, but they do not come....

Just can't understand... see my post here for details: https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=16325.msg213989#msg213989

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 04, 2020, 11:10:04 PM »
Trump's history of racism laid out in this Twitter thread


Yeah, here is Trump posing with some notorious racists...the bastard.


I mean, Jesus...look how they're plotting more racist deeds to do...


Dude,  every black person in that picture says Trump is a racist.

He wanted a photo with all the black people in his administration but there was only one.

Agreed. Look at the body language of the guy with his hands folded in front. That is a clear defensive signal, and he appears to be avoiding eye contact. The two in the back aren't even looking at trump. The whole thing looks pretty tense.

In other news.... well, basically the same nonsense, Trump's non-action and divisiveness is starting to wear out even the republicans.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-mattis-denounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/

Edit:

If you think Trump isn't the kind of character who would fake an interaction for publicity, then you haven't been paying attention to the past 3.5 years. Nor have you paid attention to any of Trump's early days.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 04, 2020, 02:56:48 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-supporters-might-demand-that-he-serve-more-than-two-terms-as-president/ar-AACXSMW

Poor Donald. He really doesn't want to break the law, but the people might just DEMAND that he does.

Only in Trump's diluted mind would that happen. Imagine the revolution that would ensue if the most authoritarian president in history swindled his way into more than a constitutionally allowed two-term limit....

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 03, 2020, 02:15:08 PM »
I didn't see this on the media - likely because it wasn't violent enough.

Thousands of protestors lie on the ground chanting "I can't breathe" for 9 minutes (the length of time George Floyd was being pinned).


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 29, 2020, 02:24:18 PM »
Oh snap, Twitter is escalating. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-29/twitter-trump-minneapolis-post-broke-rules-glorified-violence

Trump is gonna get banned at this rate.


Damn, paywall.

https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/twitter-donald-trumps-warning-label-minneapolis-glorifies-violence-1234619685/

Part of me hopes this will happen, that Trump will lose his shit completely and shut down twitter. It will do a couple things:

1. Trump will lose his primary communications platform.
2. Perhaps the melt-down will be enough to sway some voters and republicans to the other side.

More likely what is happening, is that trump is setting himself up for future success after his presidency ends - he will engage in a massive law-suite on all the social media outlets who have "done him wrong".

Signing the executive order was the first move in the game of chess. Twitter is nothing more than a pawn in his grand scheme.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 28, 2020, 02:54:48 AM »
Two questions:

Those of y'all who like Trump, can you name two things he's done that you disagree with?

Those of y'all who dislike Trump, can you name two things he's done that you agree with?

Wait a second... I misread the post....

So, I should answer in the affirmative...

1. He gave $$ to farmers after creating a trade war that hurt farmers

2. Increased the standard tax deduction - although I'm not sure how this will pan out after a few more years. This could be something I end up holding against him.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Quoting concerns
« on: May 27, 2020, 09:40:07 PM »
Thanks for the feedback. Is there any sort of posting sandbox I can use to test BBC tags without actually posting?

AR (Angry Ranting) or CN (Complete Nonsense)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 27, 2020, 09:34:37 PM »
Two questions:

Those of y'all who like Trump, can you name two things he's done that you disagree with?

Those of y'all who dislike Trump, can you name two things he's done that you agree with?

1. Removed EPA regulations preventing companies from dumping toxic, harmful chemicals into rivers and cricks (more properly called 'creeks').

2. Separated children from their parents because they didn't fit a certain criteria.

Now you just have to decide whether or not I agree or disagree with these 'things'... that was a joke...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 27, 2020, 08:58:36 PM »
Well if this isn't the pot calling the kettle black.

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/05/27/trump-press-secretary-kayleigh-mcenany-has-voted-by-mail-11-times-in-10-years/

Trump himself has voted by mail in Florida, but apparently now, it's not good enough for him.

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Technology & Information / Re: OpenBSD 6.7
« on: May 27, 2020, 08:46:53 PM »
OpenBSD 6.7 was released this week. See the full release announcement for the (many, many) improvements made. Aside from the usual incremental progress, the main ones I'm interested in are the adoption of FFS2 as the default filesystem on most platforms, and extra hardware support, particularly for newer Intel Wi-Fi chips and the Pinebook Pro.

I decided to throw a fresh install of 6.7 on my Pine A64+ board. Here's the dmesg:

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OpenBSD 6.7 (GENERIC.MP) #1: Sat May 16 15:59:24 MDT 2020
    root@syspatch-67-arm64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/arm64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem  = 2015719424 (1922MB)
avail mem = 1923706880 (1834MB)
mainbus0 at root: Pine64+
cpu0 at mainbus0 mpidr 0: ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4
cpu0: 32KB 64b/line 2-way L1 VIPT I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 4-way L1 D-cache
cpu0: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
efi0 at mainbus0: UEFI 2.8
efi0: Das U-Boot rev 0x20200100
apm0 at mainbus0
psci0 at mainbus0: PSCI 1.1, SMCCC 1.1
"display-engine" at mainbus0 not configured
"osc24M_clk" at mainbus0 not configured
"osc32k_clk" at mainbus0 not configured
"internal-osc-clk" at mainbus0 not configured
"sound_spdif" at mainbus0 not configured
"spdif-out" at mainbus0 not configured
agtimer0 at mainbus0: tick rate 24000 KHz
simplebus0 at mainbus0: "soc"
sxisyscon0 at simplebus0
sxisid0 at simplebus0
sxiccmu0 at simplebus0
sxipio0 at simplebus0: 103 pins
ampintc0 at simplebus0 nirq 224, ncpu 4 ipi: 0, 1: "interrupt-controller"
sxirtc0 at simplebus0
sxiccmu1 at simplebus0
sxipio1 at simplebus0: 13 pins
sxirsb0 at simplebus0
axppmic0 at sxirsb0 addr 0x3a3: AXP803
"de2" at simplebus0 not configured
"dma-controller" at simplebus0 not configured
"lcd-controller" at simplebus0 not configured
"lcd-controller" at simplebus0 not configured
sximmc0 at simplebus0
sdmmc0 at sximmc0: 4-bit, sd high-speed, mmc high-speed, dma
"usb" at simplebus0 not configured
"phy" at simplebus0 not configured
ehci0 at simplebus0
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci0 at simplebus0: version 1.0
ehci1 at simplebus0
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci1 at simplebus0: version 1.0
com0 at simplebus0sxiccmu_ccu_reset: 0x0000002e
: ns16550, no working fifo
com0: console
sxitwi0 at simplebus0
iic0 at sxitwi0
dwxe0 at simplebus0: address 69:69:69:69:69:69
rgephy0 at dwxe0 phy 1: RTL8169S/8110S/8211 PHY, rev. 5
"hdmi" at simplebus0 not configured
"hdmi-phy" at simplebus0 not configured
"interrupt-controller" at simplebus0 not configured
sxidog0 at simplebus0
gpio0 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio1 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio2 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio3 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio4 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio5 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio6 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio7 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio8 at sxipio1: 32 pins
usb2 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
"hdmi-connector" at mainbus0 not configured
"binman" at mainbus0 not configured
cpu1 at mainbus0 mpidr 1: ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4
cpu1: 32KB 64b/line 2-way L1 VIPT I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 4-way L1 D-cache
cpu1: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu2 at mainbus0 mpidr 2: ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4
cpu2: 32KB 64b/line 2-way L1 VIPT I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 4-way L1 D-cache
cpu2: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu3 at mainbus0 mpidr 3: ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4
cpu3: 32KB 64b/line 2-way L1 VIPT I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 4-way L1 D-cache
cpu3: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
scsibus0 at sdmmc0: 2 targets, initiator 0
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: <SD/MMC, SL16G, 0080> removable
sd0: 15193MB, 512 bytes/sector, 31116288 sectors
vscsi0 at root
scsibus1 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
scsibus2 at softraid0: 256 targets
bootfile: sd0a:/bsd
boot device: sd0
root on sd0a (d366cdda941f826a.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
WARNING: bad clock chip time
WARNING: CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!

What's your available mem AFTER boot?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 27, 2020, 07:04:51 PM »
Yeah, I think it would be better for everyone if we just stopped engaging him. In other news:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/politics/donald-trump-twitter-threat-regulate/index.html

haha Trump is mad

I want to see Twitter double down on this. It would be nice if they did something with his deplorable Joe Scarborough conspiracy theory tweets, especially since the poor woman's widower asked them to.

He won't shut down twitter. It gives him too much power, and for free.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:54:26 PM »
No recommendations to take it only in hospital.

Hmmmmmm.....

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/05/studies-find-further-lack-covid-benefit-hydroxychloroquine

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Earlier this week, the American College of Physicians posted guidelines recommending against using hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, alone or in combination with azithromycin, in COVID-19 patients, unless it's within the context of a clinical trial and the decision to treat is made with patients and their families.

American College of Physicians - https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1998

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Do not use chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone or in combination with azithromycin as a treatment of patients with COVID-19 due to known harms and no available evidence of benefits in patients with COVID-19.

Not only are they recommending to only use in a clinical setting, they are also recommending to not use it PERIOD (to treat COVID).

Do I need to go on?

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