[Saddam Hussein]

Okay, if we've reached the "one-liners" stage of this discussion, then it's time to put it to rest.  It'll just get nasty from here on out otherwise.  Agree to disagree, like you said to garygreen.  In other news, lol:

http://factually.gizmodo.com/no-ammon-bundy-didnt-compare-his-militia-to-rosa-parks-1751353105

From what I understand there is no federal "land", the land of Oregon belongs to the State of Oregon, not the federal government. Just as for any other state.

No, this isn't right.  The federal government owns plenty of land, and it's perfectly constitutional:

The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

Maybe an argument can be made that what the federal government is doing is unfair and in need of complete overhaul (interesting article on it).  But when genuine grievances start getting mixed in with unsupported conspiracy theories, the media has a tendency to ignore the former and focus on the latter, so it's hard to blame people for focusing on them too.

[Blanko]

Saddam runs away from yet another debate.

[Fat Earl]

Maybe an argument can be made that what the federal government is doing is unfair and in need of complete overhaul (interesting article on it).  But when genuine grievances start getting mixed in with unsupported conspiracy theories, the media has a tendency to ignore the former and focus on the latter, so it's hard to blame people for focusing on them too.

Agreed.

[Pete Svarrior]

Any agreements or disagreement's aside, Kelly's take on the situation is absolutely glorious.

[Pongo]

What's a Birder?

[Lord Dave]

What's a Birder?

Bird watcher?

[garygreen]

it's genuinely shocking how the onion has managed to keep being this funny after so many years.  the cartoons are one of their best additions.

[Lord Dave]

Oh hey, it's over.

They fought the law and the law won.

[Saddam Hussein]

It's hardly over.  Only some of them were arrested or killed.

[Pete Svarrior]

Yeah, if they play it right, they've just created a group of martyrs.

[Lord Dave]

It's hardly over.  Only some of them were arrested or killed.

The big media name was arrested though.  No one else has enough media pull to make headlines outside the local paper unless they do something drastic.

The movement will fizzle out when they run out of food, money, or conviction.

Yeah, if they play it right, they've just created a group of martyrs.

Is there enough media attention for that though?

[Pete Svarrior]

Yeah, if they play it right, they've just created a group of martyrs.

Is there enough media attention for that though?

That depends on whether or not they play it right. Nobody knew who the Bundy family was before they started doing this kind of stuff, either.

[Lord Dave]

Yeah, if they play it right, they've just created a group of martyrs.

Is there enough media attention for that though?

That depends on whether or not they play it right. Nobody knew who the Bundy family was before they started doing this kind of stuff, either.

True.  But I don't think they have the skills to take advantage of it.

[Pete Svarrior]

We shall see. They've been doing well for themselves so far, so I wouldn't call it over just yet.

[model 29]

Agents messed up by killing any of them.  Someone should have reminded the LEOs, etc, that they're not supposed to shoot white suspects because they have white privilege.

[Pete Svarrior]

Agents messed up by killing any of them.  Someone should have reminded the LEOs, etc, that they're not supposed to shoot white suspects because they have white privilege.

What?

[Rama Set]

Agents messed up by killing any of them.  Someone should have reminded the LEOs, etc, that they're not supposed to shoot white suspects because they have white privilege.

+1 10/10 would white power again.

[model 29]

Agents messed up by killing any of them.  Someone should have reminded the LEOs, etc, that they're not supposed to shoot white suspects because they have white privilege.

What?

If you haven't heard of the term, I would google it.  It's a U.S. thing. 

[Saddam Hussein]

I think he's using some witty satire to argue that white privilege doesn't exist.  Because a white guy was shot by cops.

[Pete Svarrior]

I mean, "white privilege" is pretty much made up, but I'm not sure what being shot by mysterious "LEO" agents has anything to do with that.