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« Reply #500 on: August 21, 2017, 03:20:42 AM »
<Saddam> It's worse in the books
<Saddam> [Robb] marries a lady because he knocked her up

My mistake, he just banged her and felt that he ought to marry her afterward. She wasn't even pregnant. The books also take great pains to frame his marriage as being an incredibly stupid decision, as opposed to the show making him more sympathetic by giving him a genuine romance with an actual character. Also, Rushy is obviously trolling, stop feeding him.
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« Reply #501 on: August 21, 2017, 03:58:51 AM »
That episode sucked. These writers clearly don't know what they're doing without GRRM.

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« Reply #502 on: August 21, 2017, 03:48:50 PM »
I liked it just for the spectacle, but there's no doubt that it's a narrative mess. Like, Gendry runs back to the Wall, sends a raven to Dany, and Dany shows up with her dragons, all in the space of...a night? Maybe a day and a night? And it really bugged me that the episode kept changing its mind about how many redshirts were part of the expedition. We'd clearly see in an establishing shot that there were only two or three, who then get killed, but later on a few more appear out of thin air so that they can get killed too.

But the real issue is, again, Arya and Sansa. Arya is angry about nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's plot-mandated angst. I get that Littlefinger is apparently trying to pit them against each other, but Arya's baffling stupidity is doing virtually all of the work here. Have they forgotten that they literally have access to a near-omniscient godchild who could easily clear this whole issue up for them?
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« Reply #503 on: August 22, 2017, 08:46:36 PM »
i hated the last episode.  i hate faux-suspense.  it was like 70 minutes of oh they're almost dead oh now they're REALLY almost dead omg now they're SO CLOSE to being dead holy shit look how close to death they all are i wonder if they can get any closer to death OH WOW SO CLOSE TO DEATH NOW I WONDER IF THEY'LL MAKE IT

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« Reply #504 on: August 24, 2017, 08:13:29 PM »
Ah well, maybe this is going to be Lotr 2.0 after all. What a silly episode.

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« Reply #505 on: August 28, 2017, 02:01:54 PM »
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« Reply #506 on: August 28, 2017, 03:40:20 PM »
I was so convinced that the show was committed to Arya and Sansa's stupid enmity that the "twist" took me by surprise. I don't think the resolution quite justifies every dopey scene the two of them had together (Was it all a long con? Did they only realize what was going on at the last second?), but the end result was satisfying enough.
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« Reply #507 on: August 28, 2017, 09:25:13 PM »
i felt similarly.  i was satisfied that sansa and arya were both as smart and united as they ought to be, but i was was annoyed that the entirety of the winterfell plot was a season-long red herring. 
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« Reply #508 on: August 29, 2017, 05:37:30 PM »
i felt similarly.  i was satisfied that sansa and arya were both as smart and united as they ought to be, but i was was annoyed that the entirety of the winterfell plot was a season-long red herring.
Same. There was really no need for it. She could have charged him with murder and treason before going through all that bullshit.

I do enjoy things finally progressing, but over all it was pretty underwhelming. I'm sure next season will be interesting with the White Walkers now finally through the Wall.
But I miss the books. D&D are shit writers. The dialogue sucks. The characters are now super shallow and my favorites - Varys, Tyrion, and Littlefinger (RIP) are but a shadow of their former selves.

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« Reply #509 on: August 29, 2017, 08:17:09 PM »
I feel like I need to watch all those scenes with Arya, Sansa, and Littlefinger over again just to see if this resolution even makes sense. It was a fun scene though. I definitely think the show has lost something with Benioff and Weiss not having the books as a guide, even though I really did think last season was the best in the show's run.

The Wall coming down was pretty epic.
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« Reply #510 on: August 29, 2017, 08:37:18 PM »
There are too many characters and too many plot threads to resolve them all properly in the limited time left, even with the major simplifications from the books. Shortening the seasons hasn't paid off if its main benefit was to give each episode more of a budget. The show doesn't need more money, it needs more time to tell the story.
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« Reply #511 on: August 31, 2017, 01:41:21 PM »
I feel like I need to watch all those scenes with Arya, Sansa, and Littlefinger over again just to see if this resolution even makes sense.
It doesn't. Apparently a scene was taken out where Sansa goes to Bran asking for help and Bran tells her everything about Littlefinger.

So all that tension and the death threat between the two sisters was for real. Fucking awful.

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« Reply #512 on: September 02, 2017, 02:47:12 AM »
I was right about the undead dragon and Jon/Dany. Too bad my "Littlefinger wins" prediction is sunk.


Also, for such a long-running Character, the run-up to Littlefinger's death is pretty fast. Hardly any dramatic tension. Just a sort of "you're dead now lol" given from the show.

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« Reply #513 on: September 02, 2017, 03:35:25 AM »
I was right about the undead dragon and Jon/Dany.

Those two details were leaked over a year ago.
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« Reply #514 on: September 02, 2017, 04:15:34 PM »
For such a huge production, HBO seems to let GoT leak pretty easily.
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« Reply #515 on: September 04, 2017, 12:50:01 AM »
I was right about the undead dragon and Jon/Dany.

Those two details were leaked over a year ago.

How is that relevant? I don't keep up with leaks.

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« Reply #516 on: September 04, 2017, 06:41:55 PM »
Okay, but I think everyone kinda knew about Jon and Dany. They're basically Ice and Fire. Plus, they're two big players, both attractive, and around the same age. You didn't have to know about any leaks to see that one coming.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #517 on: September 08, 2017, 02:59:29 PM »
Also, I'm watching Westworld now. It's pretty good so far.