The Flat Earth Society
Other Discussion Boards => Science & Alternative Science => Topic started by: Rushy on December 01, 2013, 09:13:46 PM
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The base elements of the universe are time and gravity, prove me wrong. I say that because I don't know of a word that combines time and gravity into one singular idea.
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The base elements of the universe are time and gravity, prove me wrong. I say that because I don't know any Physics.
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John Baez estimates that there are 26 fundamental physical constants that make up the universe. Not two.
they include
Constant of gravitation
Speed of light
Planck constant
Elementary charge
Electron mass
Rydberg constant
Proton-electron mass ratio
Hubble constant
Planck mass
Planck length
Planck time
Magnetic flux quantum
Bohr magneton
the mass of the up quark
the mass of the down quark
the mass of the charmed quark
the mass of the strange quark
the mass of the top quark
the mass of the bottom quark
4 numbers for the Kobayashi-Maskawa matrix
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All of those things can be either explained using time or gravity. Next.
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All of those things can be either explained using time or gravity. Next.
Please explain Electron Mass as a function of time and gravity.
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All of those things can be either explained using time or gravity. Next.
Please explain Electron Mass as a function of time and gravity.
Mass is a result of gravity over a length of time.
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All of those things can be either explained using time or gravity. Next.
Please explain Electron Mass as a function of time and gravity.
Mass is a result of gravity over a length of time.
Ok, now this belongs in CN.
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Ok, now this belongs in CN.
Don't get mad just because you can't science as hard as me.
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I was going to say something here, but nah. Nah...
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Gravity is dependent on amount of mass. Time is dependent on amount of fun.
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Gravity is dependent on amount of mass.
This is incorrect even to an amatuer physicist. Gravity is based on energy, not mass.
Time is dependent on amount of fun.
Irrelevant.
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This is incorrect even to an amatuer physicist. Gravity is based on energy, not mass.
Mass and Energy are interchangeable, but even then I would assume that gravity is relative to the indent mass makes on space-time.
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Mass and Energy are interchangeable,
No, they're not.
but even then I would assume that gravity is relative to the indent mass makes on space-time.
Mass is the result of gravity, not the other way around.
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Mass and Energy are interchangeable,
No, they're not.
Small amounts of mass can be converted to large amounts of energy and large amounts of energy can be converted to small amounts of mass.
but even then I would assume that gravity is relative to the indent mass makes on space-time.
Mass is the result of gravity, not the other way around.
From what I know, mass/energy causes empty fields of space to curve thus creating gravity.
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Small amounts of mass can be converted to large amounts of energy and large amounts of energy can be converted to small amounts of mass.
No. This is a common misconception. Only relative mass can be converted to energy, and relative mass was never really mass in the first place.
From what I know, mass/energy causes empty fields of space to curve thus creating gravity.
How would you be sure the gravity doesn't cause the mass?
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The Higgs field is thought to be the source of mass. Gravity has never been held up as a source of mass, but rather a field that is contributed to by mass.
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2 bad the FES doesn't believe in the latter thing.
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2 bad the FES doesn't believe in the latter thing.
Some FEers belive in gravity, some don't.
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The base elements of the universe are time and gravity, prove me wrong. I say that because I don't know of a word that combines time and gravity into one singular idea.
uh...what?
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The base elements of the universe are time and gravity, prove me wrong. I say that because I don't know of a word that combines time and gravity into one singular idea.
Had a thought on my bike ride in to work. How would you define space in terms of gravity and time only?
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define time
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From what I know, mass/energy causes empty fields of space to curve thus creating gravity.
How would you be sure the gravity doesn't cause the mass?
Mass creates an indent on space-time, which is gravity. Anything that enters this indent must follow the curvature created and accelerate accordingly. The direction of this acceleration is always towards the source of the curvature, which would be the mass.
As you can see, mass causes gravity.
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Had a thought on my bike ride in to work. How would you define space in terms of gravity and time only?
There is no such thing as space.
Mass creates an indent on space-time, which is gravity. Anything that enters this indent must follow the curvature created and accelerate accordingly. The direction of this acceleration is always towards the source of the curvature, which would be the mass.
As you can see, mass causes gravity.
No, gravity creates a hole in the universe that forces mass into existence. Even in accepted scientific theorems, mass doesn't cause gravity. That's just some bullshit they give Elementary schoolers because none of them are really going to care what actually causes gravity.
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Had a thought on my bike ride in to work. How would you define space in terms of gravity and time only?
There is no such thing as space.
Wat?
Mass creates an indent on space-time, which is gravity. Anything that enters this indent must follow the curvature created and accelerate accordingly. The direction of this acceleration is always towards the source of the curvature, which would be the mass.
As you can see, mass causes gravity.
No, gravity creates a hole in the universe that forces mass into existence. Even in accepted scientific theorems, mass doesn't cause gravity. That's just some bullshit they give Elementary schoolers because none of them are really going to care what actually causes gravity.
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Mass is one of the contributors to the stress energy tensor, so it is not the cause of gravity but definitely makes gravitational fields stronger.
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Wat?
Space is a result of human perception, not an actual "thing" in the universe. I suppose you could say it exists abstractly.
Mass is one of the contributors to the stress energy tensor, so it is not the cause of gravity but definitely makes gravitational fields stronger.
On the contrary, a stronger gravitational field increases mass.
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Wat?
Space is a result of human perception, not an actual "thing" in the universe. I suppose you could say it exists abstractly.
How do you know it only a result of human perception? Other animals appear to respond to our notion of space in the exact same fashion. Is there some rationale you can provide to demonstrate that it might be an abstract concept?
Mass is one of the contributors to the stress energy tensor, so it is not the cause of gravity but definitely makes gravitational fields stronger.
On the contrary, a stronger gravitational field increases mass.
Can you tell me what definition of mass you are using? Where I am from a strong gravitational field increases weight, not mass.
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How do you know it only a result of human perception? Other animals appear to respond to our notion of space in the exact same fashion. Is there some rationale you can provide to demonstrate that it might be an abstract concept?
Animals are people, too, you heathen.
Can you tell me what definition of mass you are using? Where I am from a strong gravitational field increases weight, not mass.
Weight is a function of mass.
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How do you know it only a result of human perception? Other animals appear to respond to our notion of space in the exact same fashion. Is there some rationale you can provide to demonstrate that it might be an abstract concept?
Animals are people, too, you heathen.
Can you tell me what definition of mass you are using? Where I am from a strong gravitational field increases weight, not mass.
Weight is a function of mass.
I'm glad we are clear that weight is not mass. Weight is a function of mass and gravity but you know that don't you?
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I'm glad we are clear that weight is not mass. Weight is a function of mass and gravity but you know that don't you?
Mass is a function of gravity, but weight is a function of mass, I'm not sure what you're not getting here.
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Explain self awareness. Not thought. Awareness.
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Explain self awareness. Not thought. Awareness.
Define awareness.
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I'll try and make this simple.
'Things' exist. Those 'things' interact with existence in different ways.
One of those interactions gives that thing a mass/energy.
That mass/energy causes existence to curve (including time).
That curve interacts with other curves (including time).
That interaction is what we call gravity.
Time and space is the fabric upon which the curves interact (gravity), they are not the same thing.
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I'm glad we are clear that weight is not mass. Weight is a function of mass and gravity but you know that don't you?
Mass is a function of gravity, but weight is a function of mass, I'm not sure what you're not getting here.
All that may be true but mass does not exist because of gravity. It exists because of the Higgs Field.
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I'm glad we are clear that weight is not mass. Weight is a function of mass and gravity but you know that don't you?
Mass is a function of gravity, but weight is a function of mass, I'm not sure what you're not getting here.
if the weight of an object is entirely dependent on it's mass how come the weight of an object can change and it's mass stay the same?
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No, gravity creates a hole in the universe that forces mass into existence. Even in accepted scientific theorems, mass doesn't cause gravity. That's just some bullshit they give Elementary schoolers because none of them are really going to care what actually causes gravity.
Explain? I thought mass came from a ton of particles from the big bang coming together slowly over time to create small amounts of mass, which would then accumulated into larger amounts as the universe was simultaneously cooling down. According to this, I would imagine that gravity is a by product of mass rather than actually creating mass.
At the same time, I think this explanation of 'mass curving space-time thus causing gravity' only explains things on a larger scale, not so much on a small scale. This is also why they have attempted to explain gravity in other ways and have introduced Quantum Physics, correct?
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Explain? I thought mass came from a ton of particles from the big bang coming together slowly over time to create small amounts of mass, which would then accumulated into larger amounts as the universe was simultaneously cooling down. According to this, I would imagine that gravity is a by product of mass rather than actually creating mass.
The Big Bang is the result of all gravity and time in the Universe culminating into a single point-source. That point source exploded outwards into what we see today.
At the same time, I think this explanation of 'mass curving space-time thus causing gravity' only explains things on a larger scale, not so much on a small scale. This is also why they have attempted to explain gravity in other ways and have introduced Quantum Physics, correct?
Gravity is what determines that mass should exist over any given period of time. This is why dark matter is almost gravitationally non-existent, it can't exist because gravity hasn't brought it into being. How gravity picks and chooses is unknown.
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Explain? I thought mass came from a ton of particles from the big bang coming together slowly over time to create small amounts of mass, which would then accumulated into larger amounts as the universe was simultaneously cooling down. According to this, I would imagine that gravity is a by product of mass rather than actually creating mass.
The Big Bang is the result of all gravity and time in the Universe culminating into a single point-source. That point source exploded outwards into what we see today.
At the same time, I think this explanation of 'mass curving space-time thus causing gravity' only explains things on a larger scale, not so much on a small scale. This is also why they have attempted to explain gravity in other ways and have introduced Quantum Physics, correct?
Gravity is what determines that mass should exist over any given period of time. This is why dark matter is almost gravitationally non-existent, it can't exist because gravity hasn't brought it into being. How gravity picks and chooses is unknown.
Rushy sceptifies gravity.