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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: January 04, 2016, 08:27:44 PM »
On the plus side, I think we've stumbled onto something.

Storm Troopers had terrible aim because of the helmet.  Once Finn got the bucket off, he was mowing down those troopers like he was a main cast member.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The saga of Cliven Bundy
« on: January 04, 2016, 09:27:16 AM »
Point.

Now, do you thinj their reasons  are justified?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The saga of Cliven Bundy
« on: January 03, 2016, 10:36:53 PM »
I'm just enjoying people who don't understand what terrorism is decrying it a terrorist attack.

Well, they are scared so its kinda unntentional terrorism?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The saga of Cliven Bundy
« on: January 03, 2016, 06:01:08 PM »
I saw.
I'm iffy on it. 

On one hand, what they're doing is dangerous and stupid.  On the other hand, the judge made the sentencing mistake.  He shoukdn't have to pay for that.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: REQUEST FOR COMMENTS: Reunification Proposal
« on: January 01, 2016, 05:32:27 PM »
Eh, all we wanted was the database and users.
The users are migrating slowly but surely over.
Our numbers are increasing.
As traffic increases to us and their forum and main page fails, we get more of the traffic.  Heck, google crawlers may not even hit the forums if the main page is down.

So by the time Daniel actually does something, his forum will be dead, ours will be the #1 and we can just say "We don't need you anymore."

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: January 01, 2016, 08:14:32 AM »
Ren was powerful enough to force stop a blaster bolt mid-flight; why didn't he just force choke Finn to death? Finn had no force powers and would have no defense against that attack.

There were multiple parts in there movie in which Finn should have died but didn't and had other characters save his ass. He is the new Jar-Jar.

Is that really a measure of powerful?  How much "power" do you think is required to stop a low mass bolt of plasma?  Especially if Size Matters Not.  The only power it really requires is prediction and any force user who can block blaster bolts with a lightsaber could predict this and stop it.

As for force choking:  He was angry and injured.  Yes he could have just force chocked him, but I suspect he was just "GGGRRRR!" *swing*.  Heck, he could have force pushed him against a tree.  And unless I'm remembering wrong, that fight wasn't long but it certainly was enough time for Ren to get back up.

And I wouldn't call him the new Jar-Jar.  Finn may be a hero who constantly gets saved, but at least he's not getting out of trouble with very stupid things.  In fact, he's usually the one who gets his ass kicked quickly despite being at least competent in combat. 

Also, I think this movie shows enough evidence that storm trooper aim is poor due to the helmet.  Once removed, their aim improves dramatically.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 31, 2015, 10:30:08 AM »
Yeah, there was this scene on Dagobah:



Of course, this provides probably the strongest evidence of all of how much the prequels fucked up by overemphasizing flashy combat and lightsaber acrobatics as being the main role of a Jedi.  You know you've gone way off-base when lines like "Your weapons...you will not need them," have been replaced with stupid shit like this:


Luke did do a flip...

And I always took the "Your weapons... you will not need them" as "You're going to have a mind trip.  There is nothing that can hurt you there."

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Welp.... Glad I stick with bit defender.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: I began my fan fiction
« on: December 28, 2015, 06:48:53 AM »
The world has never been established as spherical.  The sun and moon are raised by magic!  Of course the planet is flat!

I got half way through the first chapter before I had to stop for my own sake.

Seriously?  The princess raises and lowers the sun each day and some pony thinks the planet rotates?  That's just bad writing.  Like I said, the MLP universe is more likely to be a plane than spherical by simple observations.  No scientist is going to even bother looking into the moon and sun's movements as they are governed by Princess Celestia.

There are globes present throughout the series such as the one in Golden Oaks Library, as well as a stained glass window right next to the throne that shows a spherical world and something that looks like Saturn. There are several references like this.

While nothing has been stated about rotation, it is heavily implied that in the general world view of Equestria, their planet is a sphere. It is accepted that Celestia and Luna control the movement of the two main luminaries, but there is also the fact that Rainbow Dash was dressed up like an astronaut during the most recent Nightmare Night episode. They have the concept of astronauts, of a globe world, etc. and yet it's clear they live on a plane. I am attempting to read between the lines here and write about this conspiracy which must exist in the canon world.

As you point out, by simple observations, it is clear that it is flat, but Celestia's word is taken as if it were the word of a goddess, and the pony race is a type of being that is easily conditioned. They are a herd animal and don't want to buck the trends presented to them if they have no compelling reason to question it.

One could just as easily argue (as many do) that simple observation reveals that we live on a flat earth, and yet most of us do not accept that as reality.

I think a big problem is that a lot of people here are not familiar with the series or its inconsistencies. This is why people are having a hard time understanding the fiction. I post it here out of courtesy because people were asking me to before.


Fair enough.  I admit not noticing the globes before.


As for astronauts, I just file that under "real world bleedthru". 

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 27, 2015, 09:53:10 PM »
It would only have taken a few extra lines in the opening crawl to clear up what the First Order and the Republic are.

Agreed.  But maybe they don't know yet?  They said "Hey, let's just pretend we know and figure it out later..."

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: I began my fan fiction
« on: December 27, 2015, 07:54:43 PM »
The world has never been established as spherical.  The sun and moon are raised by magic!  Of course the planet is flat!

I got half way through the first chapter before I had to stop for my own sake.

Seriously?  The princess raises and lowers the sun each day and some pony thinks the planet rotates?  That's just bad writing.  Like I said, the MLP universe is more likely to be a plane than spherical by simple observations.  No scientist is going to even bother looking into the moon and sun's movements as they are governed by Princess Celestia.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 27, 2015, 07:52:50 PM »
They probably learned from the prequels to ignore politics.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Moving Threads
« on: December 26, 2015, 01:55:00 PM »
Agrees with parsifal and SW. 

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 26, 2015, 10:33:37 AM »
That's what I assumed, then they started talking about a Republic which was apparently separate from the Republic but backed by it?
Rebels.

Republic is separate from the Rebels.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 26, 2015, 06:28:24 AM »
Ok, did anyone understand the whole First Order thing enough to explain it without resorting to non-film material?


The Emporer died.
Some guy took power.
Renamee Empire to First Order.


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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:38:54 PM »
What? I'm not even talking about his spirit showing up. I'm just talking about what a douche he was and the audience is okay with it cause he saved Luke.

In the real world, people are typically not okay with someone that evil just because they sacrificed themselves for one person. Vader is a dick.


Oh.
Then yeah, totally doesn't balance.


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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:35:11 PM »
I don't think him killing Han decided anything once and for all. That seems way too absolute. Anakin murdered all the younglings, killed Mace Windu, killed his former Jedi master Obi-Wan (as Darth Vader), and still went back to the Light Side in the end.
He clearly made his choice though.

And one good deed hardly means Vader went back to the light side. I never understood that, he was responsible for so much death and destruction but when he saves his kid he's redeemed? No.

He didn't just save his kid, he threw his old master to his death and sacrificed his own life to do so.  Anyway, this redemption is not like Christianity where you have a ledger of sins that must be atoned for, it is something that happens in the heart.
Nah, that shit doesn't cut it for me. He killed sooooo many innocent people. Fuck you, Vader!
You seem to be under the impression the force gives a damn about light and dark. Vader could have simply appeared because he found peace with himself and was able to join the force.  The internal conflict was resolved.  Palpatine probably became one with the force as well, he's just a dick so he wouldn't show up to a bunch of good guys.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 22, 2015, 07:06:42 PM »
Also, Lord Dave, Rey had zero training with a saber yet was pretty proficient. That backs up what Vindictus is saying about using the Force over being a trained fencer.
She also had zero force training yet mind controlled a storm trooper within minutes of even learning she could. 

To me this is just a plothole.  Or she's a force prodigy and needs no training.  Which to me is stupid.

As for Luke fighting Vader:  The first time, Vader wasn't trying to kill him.  The second time, it's iffy.


But let's say the Jedi don't do saber training.  Let's say it's uncoordinated movements that you do while sensing.  Completely untrained.  So you know that your opponent is going to swing from above.  What do you do?  Block would be your instinct, but do you know how to effectively block or even counter attack?  The force can tell you what's coming but it can't tell you how to react to it.

This would be the difference of a fist fight between a black belt and a normal, untrained guy with the force.  Can he see that kick coming?  Sure.  And his instinct will be to do something.  But the black belt will have a much better chance of anticipating his actions and having a counter attack ready.  You can predict his attacks, but how do you defend yourself against them in such a way as to avoid what he anticipates?

Sorry but there is no possible way the Jedi are going to give anyone a weapon and not train them how to use it.  It's stupid and a waste.  And if they did, the Sith would capitalize on that and say "You know, if we TRAIN this guy to fight with a light saber, he'll kick the butt of any Jedi."


Side note:  Vader is in a giant suit and is slow because of it.  Hence why his style is a very forceful one rather than agile. 

Also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Anderson_%28fencer%29
The guy who did the sword fighting as Vader WAS a professional fencer AND he did the choreography.  So... yeah.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Wars ep 7 (with spoilers)
« on: December 22, 2015, 11:45:13 AM »
We never saw luke get trained in much.  Should we assume he was only trained onscreen?

Well, yeah. There were only two Jedi in the original trilogy and both were dead by 6. Neither taught Luke to fight with a saber.
They didn't train Luke to do a flip either or pull shit with the force.  There's a lot of "off screen" training that went on.  Presumably, Yoda or ghost ben taught him how to use a light saber properly.  If not, he had no chance against Vader.  Ever.


Quote
Also, Obi-wan mentions to Anakin how he needs to work on his sabering.

"If you spent as much time practicing your saber techniques as you did your wit, you'd rival Master Yoda as a swordsman."

Ah yes, one of the many stupid fucking lines in the prequels. Lucas seems to have forgotten what they wrote for Yoda in the original trilogy.
No where does he state the force is the only training he gives.  Hell, he built a lightsaber.  Surely Yoda taught him how.

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