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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Biden is using American taxpayer money to pay off my loans

« on: August 25, 2022, 07:48:03 PM »

You know.  I was having kinda a mediocre day.  Imagine my change in attitude when I discovered I was "obscenely wealthy."

Funny thing is, my MAGA, Trump loving, anti-vaxer, covid denier sister-in-law once told my wife we make too much money.  Guess she was right after all.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Biden is using American taxpayer money to pay off my loans

« on: August 25, 2022, 05:06:17 PM »

@Rushy

Forgetting all the mean income stuff for a moment.

What must an individual be able to afford to do for you to consider them wealthy?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Biden is using American taxpayer money to pay off my loans

« on: August 25, 2022, 04:30:20 PM »

I use a much more simple approach: if you make more than the median salary in your state, you're wealthy. T

So any individual making over $33,000/yr. where I live is wealthy.  I'm guessing more than a few individuals are disconnected from Rushy reality.

Yes, that's still true. If you live in a very low cost of living (or generally just plain poor state), then making some amount more than the median means you are making more than the majority of people in the state. If we don't define wealth as "more than most people", how exactly do we define it? Is "wealthy" just the top 5%? The top 1%? Is only 10 people on the planet wealthy and the rest are broke?

Which goes to my original statement.  "Wealthy" is quite subjective.  You telling someone who makes $40K a year that they're "wealthy" surely would elicit the response that you are "utterly disconnected from reality."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Biden is using American taxpayer money to pay off my loans

« on: August 25, 2022, 03:09:15 PM »

I don’t consider someone making 124k/a wealthy anymore. Upper Middle Class maybe.

Then you are utterly disconnected from reality.

Depends on how you define wealthy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion

« on: August 10, 2022, 09:36:58 PM »

..... justify the personal irresponsibility of women.

Of course you meant, once again, to say the irresponsibility of men.  Either that or you're simply a sexist who thoroughly enjoys the patriarchy that the U.S. has always been and seems to be heading even further to being.

Men are already responsible. If a woman decides to have the baby, the man is responsible to support it by law and can't walk away. The man is sentenced to 18 years of labor to support the child. When a man complains the societal response is "Your fault, pay up!"

If the woman decides not to have the baby, she can do so without repercussion. She is not held to the same standards to be compelled to support her baby and can choose to kill it and escape responsibility.

Care to actually discuss what you said.  You were 100% blaming the woman for being "irresponsible" and getting pregnant.  It had nothing to do with legal responsibilities afterward.  Your statement was wholly to say that it is the woman's fault she's  pregnant.  This isn't the first time you've said it.  Nice try at deflecting and trying to say it was about something else.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion

« on: August 08, 2022, 07:31:41 PM »

..... justify the personal irresponsibility of women.

Of course you meant, once again, to say the irresponsibility of men.  Either that or you're simply a sexist who thoroughly enjoys the patriarchy that the U.S. has always been and seems to be heading even further to being.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked..

« on: August 01, 2022, 07:20:07 PM »

A more practical problem with divine command theory is who speaks to God and who speaks for God?  In the Mormon church, supposedly, the president of the church speaks to God.  He could just one day say that God commands that Utah be a sovereign nation and the Mormons need to ethnically cleanse Utah of all non Mormons.  Anyone Mormon who disagreed with that wouldn't have a leg to stand on.  They're not the ones who speak directly to God.

If Brother Brigham could have had his way that would have been exactly the case.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Theory that Black Holes are Land Mass

« on: July 29, 2022, 08:25:17 PM »

If universal gravitation cannot be simulated then it doesn't work.

I was simply going to lurk here, but this is such utter bullshit I can't help it.

Can we simulate and model the whirlpools of the deception pass bridge?



Of course we can't because we don't have the math to do it.  Do they exist in reality?  I've seen them myself.  Perhaps you should too, they're pretty amazing at times.

I'll just leave this here again for you to think about.

As I said we have been trough this before.   Others have had this dance with you too.  Your unwillingness to educate yourself leaves you ignorant, stupid and constantly getting this wrong.  I don't want or need to go here with you again.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 29, 2022, 04:54:30 PM »

Thankfully I can't see him getting anywhere near a second term

Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Devil's Horns hand sign... why are they all doing it?

« on: July 28, 2022, 05:13:08 PM »

@J-man.  Perhaps your next topic should expose backward masking.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Devil's Horns hand sign... why are they all doing it?

« on: July 28, 2022, 05:12:23 PM »

All this spider bite government cover up nonsense.  We finally expose the real source of Spidey's powers.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Devil's Horns hand sign... why are they all doing it?

« on: July 28, 2022, 03:27:06 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 25, 2022, 07:23:07 PM »

Imagine still not understanding Mr. MAGA did everything he could possibly do to destroy the democracy that once actually made this country great.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion

« on: July 22, 2022, 04:26:37 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What is the Gospel?

« on: July 16, 2022, 06:00:03 PM »

God throws his hands up and says, "Meh.  Free will." then turns around a walks out while closing the door behind Him.

Actually that is not what the Bible says happens to people who are evil.

WHOOSH!!!!!  And there goes the point right over your head.  It has nothing to do with punishing evil.  It has to do with God's pleasure in punishing innocence.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What is the Gospel?

« on: July 16, 2022, 05:58:32 PM »

It doesn’t. That’s humans you’re thinking of

You've lost me. Who, in your opinion, wrote the Bible?

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”

So yes, it was obviously written by humans but the Christian belief is that it was inspired by God.

The Mormon belief is that Joseph Smith was inspired by God.  Why aren't you Mormon?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What is the Gospel?

« on: July 15, 2022, 09:08:47 PM »

Imagine a world where no one had any illnesses or imperfections and didn't die?
Diseases are population control because we're basically apex preditors.  We spread EVERWHERE and without something to kill us off, our population would be far too great far too fast.  Heck, it is NOW.
Would you wanna live in a 20 billion population world?

That one's pretty easily solved.  There will be emotional ramifications to humans, though.  But hey, God's all knowing and all powerful and such.  He knows the downside of every decision He could make before He makes it and could put other things in place to alleviate any potential issues.  Being this God guy is tough.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What is the Gospel?

« on: July 15, 2022, 08:36:42 PM »

The arguement is that God could have created a universe where people had free will, evil did not exist and everyone felt completely fulfilled.  Instead he chose to create this universe.  Pretty shitty choice by God.

Free will, as a choice between good and evil acts, does not exist if evil itself does not exist.

What does Rushy do?

[sounds of a woodchipper running in the background]

God throws his hands up and says, "Meh.  Free will." then turns around a walks out while closing the door behind Him.

The problem is that God's actions as a total obviously impact the universe differently than a single human's choices in the same situation. For God, we must apply one action to the entire universe simultaneously (that is unless you think God would save someone's daughter in one case and not in another, not entirely impossible depending on the religion). If God stops all evil actions all the time, this, again, means there is no such thing as free will.

To put it another way, imagine I'm now omnipotent. My morality is now total law. I define Good and Evil. I decide that allowing Evil is, itself, Evil and therefore no one is allowed to do Evil anymore. Is this a good universe where you would like to live? A place where some omnipotent Rushy decides what you can and can't do? I don't think you would like that.

It's an interesting philosophical discussion.  I just call bullshit on folks who want to claim that their god is some loving, kind, benevolent being.  Take free will out of the discussion.  You wouldn't want to live in a world where, say, no child is ever born with spina bifida?  My neighbor was born with it and has to spend his entire life in a wheelchair.  Nice guy that God is.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What is the Gospel?

« on: July 15, 2022, 08:00:35 PM »

I'm not against free will.

If I choose to be a crack head and end up homeless living in my own shit because of it then I get what I deserve.  If I choose to screw Rushy's 5 year old daughter and God does nothing, He's an asshole not worthy of any reverence.

I've always thought of it this way.  Not sure if Rushy has children but let's say he has a 5 year old daughter.

Rushy opens his daughters bedroom door and sees her lying on the bed naked, crying.  Next to the bed is some dude with his pants around his ankles in the process of getting a hard on.  What does Rushy do?

God throws his hands up and says, "Meh.  Free will." then turns around a walks out while closing the door behind Him.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What is the Gospel?

« on: July 15, 2022, 04:37:49 PM »

Always love that one.  Yep, she chose to be raped of her own free will.

Dude, you are being deliberately obtuse.

It's not her free will I'm talking about, it's the rapists.
OK so yes, God could have stopped that.
So then God would have to stop everyone from doing anything sinful - you can't draw a line between what we might see as the petty stuff and the really bad stuff. To God it's all bad and we either have free will or we don't.

Can you see how that wouldn't be a particularly fulfilling experience as a human?

I'm not sure if the Bible really says why God gave us free will but my take is that it's the only way He could give us a choice about having a relationship with him. A relationship without choice is meaningless.

Of course the whole free will excuse is talking about the rapist.  The point is, the girl never made a choice.  She didn't choose to be raped.  She executed no free will yet the kind, loving, caring, benevolent God doesn't give a shit about what happens to her.  You can say the same thing about children born with birth defects.  God doesn't give a shit if you are born and have to live your life as a vegetable.  It's all good.  Oh, and if your miserable existence that you made no choice to have and God didn't prevent causes you to question Him and not obediently follow him then fuck you, off to hell you go.

Can you see how that wouldn't be a particularly fulfilling experience as a human?

Yes, life without being able to rape 5 year old girls without being struck down by lightning wouldn't be a particularly fulfilling experience as a human.