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Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« Reply #300 on: June 24, 2022, 02:48:38 PM »
No more baby murder for you!

Regardless of what you think of the decision to reverse Roe v. Wade, legislatures saw this coming from miles away. If you want abortion to be a properly protected act, then you need to pass a law (state or federal) that treats it as such. Relying on a historically flimsy and controversial court case to legislate from the bench is a mistake.

If you don't like what's going on, then you should of course blame your local government and federal representatives for allowing it to happen.
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« Reply #301 on: June 24, 2022, 02:49:51 PM »
Yep.
A bunch of women just became murderers.
They already were #Rushy

Ok, let me rephrase:
They are murderers in the eye of the law.
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« Reply #302 on: June 24, 2022, 04:16:25 PM »
Regardless of what you think of the decision to reverse Roe v. Wade, legislatures saw this coming from miles away. If you want abortion to be a properly protected act, then you need to pass a law (state or federal) that treats it as such. Relying on a historically flimsy and controversial court case to legislate from the bench is a mistake.
100%
No one bothering to make it law has been a huge issue in this. We've known this was coming for quite some time and birth control is on shaky ground.

If you don't like what's going on, then you should of course blame your local government and federal representatives for allowing it to happen.
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« Reply #304 on: June 24, 2022, 04:37:01 PM »
It is about damn time.
It's so hard to have faith in humanity when they do shit like this.

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« Reply #305 on: June 24, 2022, 05:30:39 PM »
Yep here we go -


Gosh, it sounds a lot like that conservative bugbear, judicial activism! Just wait until all these cases just happen to fall before the court and just happen to end up on their docket, all so the GOP can ram their warped agenda through the system as quickly as possible. I hope everyone here is ready for the miserable new world on the horizon. You're not going to like it. Very, very few people outside of the Mike Pences of the world will like it.
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Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« Reply #306 on: June 24, 2022, 05:46:23 PM »
It’s good to see how much Americans care about their children.

Well…until they are born, go to school and get mown down in a mass shooting, or grow up and turn out gay or trans.
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« Reply #307 on: June 24, 2022, 05:49:02 PM »
It’s good to see how much Americans care about their children.

Well…until they are born, go to school and get mown down in a mass shooting, or grow up and turn out gay or trans.
Or get pregnant early, assuming they survive school.
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« Reply #308 on: June 24, 2022, 06:07:07 PM »
Practically speaking this doesn't do as much as it seems.  About 60% of abortions are done by a pill they can send in the mail.

The next struggle I'm sure will be to monitor people's mail and break into their medicine cabinets.

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« Reply #309 on: June 24, 2022, 06:14:50 PM »
Practically speaking this doesn't do as much as it seems.  About 60% of abortions are done by a pill they can send in the mail.

The next struggle I'm sure will be to monitor people's mail and break into their medicine cabinets.

Except that there are cases where women who had miscarriages come under criminal investigation, so that’s not great, as rare as those cases are. Also, Thomas literally saying that this opens the door for striking down rights connected to other groups the GOP hates is ominous.
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« Reply #310 on: June 24, 2022, 06:17:59 PM »
Practically speaking this doesn't do as much as it seems.  About 60% of abortions are done by a pill they can send in the mail.

The next struggle I'm sure will be to monitor people's mail and break into their medicine cabinets.

Except that there are cases where women who had miscarriages come under criminal investigation, so that’s not great, as rare as those cases are. Also, Thomas literally saying that this opens the door for striking down rights connected to other groups the GOP hates is ominous.

Yeah that is ominous.  I guess I shouldn't have expected them to just declare it "Mission Accomplished" and calm down.

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Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« Reply #311 on: June 24, 2022, 06:19:14 PM »
Practically speaking this doesn't do as much as it seems.  About 60% of abortions are done by a pill they can send in the mail.

The next struggle I'm sure will be to monitor people's mail and break into their medicine cabinets.
Which is great but thats illegal and any company sending such pills in those states will be held liable.  And any post office that delivers it could be held accountable as well for aiding an abortion.
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« Reply #312 on: June 24, 2022, 06:21:34 PM »
Practically speaking this doesn't do as much as it seems.  About 60% of abortions are done by a pill they can send in the mail.

The next struggle I'm sure will be to monitor people's mail and break into their medicine cabinets.

Except that there are cases where women who had miscarriages come under criminal investigation, so that’s not great, as rare as those cases are. Also, Thomas literally saying that this opens the door for striking down rights connected to other groups the GOP hates is ominous.

Yeah, it doesn't get more chilling than this:

"In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell," Thomas wrote, referring to decisions on contraception, sodomy and same-sex marriage.

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Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« Reply #313 on: June 24, 2022, 08:39:52 PM »
Mission: Success

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« Reply #314 on: June 24, 2022, 09:19:25 PM »
Mission: Success



Sexual repression always works out in the end.
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« Reply #315 on: June 24, 2022, 09:45:42 PM »
Yep.
A bunch of women just became murderers.
They already were #Rushy
Not until they're convicted.
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« Reply #316 on: June 25, 2022, 06:32:09 AM »
Mission: Success



How is never getting casually fucked again a successful mission? Have you gone full Gilead; that fucking is solely the realm of procreation?

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« Reply #317 on: June 25, 2022, 02:35:27 PM »
Mission: Success



How is never getting casually fucked again a successful mission? Have you gone full Gilead; that fucking is solely the realm of procreation?

I doubt Tom had much prospects for that sort of activity regardless of the status of RwV.

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« Reply #318 on: June 25, 2022, 03:13:15 PM »
I feel like the timing of this might have been a  gift to the Democrats for the mid-term elections? I mean, it's true, the only way to fight this is by legislating; and the Democrats have five months to get that message across. This was a MASSIVELY unpopular decision; 70% of the country feels a woman has the right to choose what they do with their own bodies. The Supreme Court has given the Democrats just enough time to get the message out that only by maintaining (and building?) on their lead in Congress can voters have a hope of protecting that right, while ensuring that the decision will still be very fresh in voters' minds.

Between licking the leader of an insurrection's boots and allowing him to control their party and just continuing to make unpopular, backwards decisions, the Republicans almost seem like they're trying to sabotage themselves going forward.
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« Reply #319 on: June 25, 2022, 03:38:25 PM »
I feel like the timing of this might have been a  gift to the Democrats for the mid-term elections? I mean, it's true, the only way to fight this is by legislating; and the Democrats have five months to get that message across. This was a MASSIVELY unpopular decision; 70% of the country feels a woman has the right to choose what they do with their own bodies. The Supreme Court has given the Democrats just enough time to get the message out that only by maintaining (and building?) on their lead in Congress can voters have a hope of protecting that right, while ensuring that the decision will still be very fresh in voters' minds.

Between licking the leader of an insurrection's boots and allowing him to control their party and just continuing to make unpopular, backwards decisions, the Republicans almost seem like they're trying to sabotage themselves going forward.
70 percent, uh?

I am sure the polls you refer to are totally legitmate. ::)
It's so hard to have faith in humanity when they do shit like this.

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