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Flat Earth Community / Re: Death of Mike Hughes

« on: February 27, 2020, 09:41:21 PM »

The man was building a rocket. In his garage. That kinda spells disaster. However, he by all accounts he wasn't even a flat earther, he just slapped the sticker on the side and tried to get donations from flat earthers. He even tried to sue Mark Sargent and Patricia Steere! Mark Sargent was being sued just because of his name, which he claimed as a 'company', showing how the US legal system is bonkers for allowing someone to even file a lawsuit on those grounds. Its sad that he died, but the man knew the risks, and if he was told otherwise, do you think he would have listened?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is agreed upon?

« on: February 27, 2020, 09:32:50 PM »

It's varied. Generally everyone agrees with the ice wall, because it keeps in the oceans. What's beyond the ice wall itself is a mystery.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Is FET Dangerous?

« on: September 14, 2018, 08:39:08 PM »

In no way is believing the earth is flat dangerous. Just like it's not dangerous to believe the earth being round is dangerous. At the end of the day, humans are free to believe what they want, you can educate people to believe what is true, but it comes down to them. If they do their own research and come to their own conclusions then that doesn't mean they are dangerous. They aren't trolls. They aren't nuts. They are just going along with what they believe in. There isn't anything dangerous about that.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Horizon rising to eye level and a foolproof way to measure it.

« on: April 20, 2018, 08:08:54 AM »

The only time it's not at eye level is if there's hills mountain's on the horizon. Go up in a plane, the horizon matches your eyes. Look straight ahead, it remains at eye level. The sea? Level. Dr Rowbotham was able to explain this.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Question about the earths base

« on: April 19, 2018, 09:32:11 AM »

To be honest nobody knows how thick the earth is. It could be 20 miles, or it could be 60 miles. We don't have an answer. As for drilling through, that's a good question, though I don't think it would be possible.

If you haven't already, read earth not a globe by Dr Samuel Rowbotham who is the authority on flat earth.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Egg Earth

« on: April 17, 2018, 08:14:21 PM »

https://wiki.tfes.org/The_earth_is_an_egg

I do not dispute that the Earth is far from circular in those photos. However, looking at the midground should make it abundantly clear that a fisheye lens was used, telling from the obvious curvature of the solar panels and radiator panels.

If this was made with CGI with the preconception of a sphere, then why would the world look so non-circular? It's not like animators can't draw circles.

Well a fisheye lens was used, its so obvious that you even acknowledged it.

The iss isn't real, its an underwater set. So the 'iss' you see is there (underwater), and the earth and darkness of space is simply cgi. Simples.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Any one here "in" on the "Conspiracy"?

« on: April 17, 2018, 05:53:49 PM »

I doubt anyone here is in on it tbh. They believe the earth to be round but not to the point that they are covering it up from some high level government position.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun

« on: April 17, 2018, 05:49:02 PM »

Yet somehow he was able to calculate the true distance, despite lack of technology.

He quotes the distance as 700 miles in EnaG right?
the Wiki on this site quotes about 3,000 miles? Is the Wiki wrong?  If so why are the Zetetic council not correcting it?
The difference is over 4 times the distance stated by EnaG.

At least RE theory has the suns distance pretty much agreed, and there is consensus.

Correct. And I'm not sure how they come to 3k miles, Dr Rowbotham was pretty clear. It does seem like certain people out there cherry pick what they want from Enag and pretend the rest isn't there.

Interesting. So do you believe the moon is translucent? Because that's one of Rowbotham's crazier claims that even the FES have distanced themselves from.

There have certainly been times when stars have been observed through the moon. Dr Rowbotham says it is semi transparent but no, I don't believe it. I realise this is probably me cherry picking, but I can use my own eyes and look at it. It's not semi transparent.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun

« on: April 17, 2018, 12:48:12 PM »

Yet somehow he was able to calculate the true distance, despite lack of technology.

He quotes the distance as 700 miles in EnaG right?
the Wiki on this site quotes about 3,000 miles? Is the Wiki wrong?  If so why are the Zetetic council not correcting it?
The difference is over 4 times the distance stated by EnaG.

At least RE theory has the suns distance pretty much agreed, and there is consensus.

Correct. And I'm not sure how they come to 3k miles, Dr Rowbotham was pretty clear. It does seem like certain people out there cherry pick what they want from Enag and pretend the rest isn't there.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun

« on: April 16, 2018, 06:22:48 PM »

Well about 45 minutes is dedicated to experiments on the water using light, lasers, and telescopes. So unfortunately I can't give you an exact starting point.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Research and advice for the theory of flat Earth for a project..

« on: April 16, 2018, 04:53:01 PM »

Eric Dubay

For the record, Eric Dubay is far from an authority on the subject. He has some interesting ideas, but he's also very insistent on interweaving them with extremist takes on history and on modern times. Not to mention his tendency to try to take over other Flat Earth groups under threat of decrying them as a conspiracy doesn't win him any points.

There is no central authority on Flat Earth Theory. Multiple groups exist, with some commonalities and some disagreements. We are at far too early stages of our advancement in society to bicker about who we'd like to be in charge. It doesn't help anyone.

His ideas are very well thought out and his book was an interesting read. Could you elaborate on conspiracy though? I've heard rumours but I'm a bit in the dark as to what you are implying.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun

« on: April 16, 2018, 04:50:01 PM »

It's not one guy, and I'm not aware of them saying they can explode glass with their mind.

And the recent YouTube video by Brazilian scientists also verify the waters being flat.

That seems pretty unlikely but can you provide the link to that?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: NASA influence in Australian Air Traffic Control

« on: April 16, 2018, 12:42:06 PM »

It's NASA's way of keeping tabs on them, officially it will be to help, but in reality its so they can track where they go and what they do with regards to the ice wall.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Research and advice for the theory of flat Earth for a project..

« on: April 16, 2018, 12:36:51 PM »

That is correct. Samuel Birley Rowbotham is the authority on Flat Earth Theory.

Who alive today is?

Eric Dubay

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun

« on: April 16, 2018, 12:35:15 PM »

Yet somehow he was able to calculate the true distance, despite lack of technology.

Great! So, have his calculations been confirmed by direct measurement?

Of course, he did the measurements himself.

I think you've missed my point. Have his calculations been confirmed by direct measurement (i. e. using a radar, a laser, ...)? Also confirmed means that someone else measured it and his readings were the same as Rowbotham's.

Rowbotham performed the experiments many times over a 30 year period. His results were also vetted by a journal dedicated to that purpose called The Earth Not a Globe Review. Today we can also see water convexity experiments on Youtube, including different experiments with lasers. Check them out.

Water being convex shows the curve of the earth.

Dr Rowbotham was able to demonstrate the flatness of the waters by conducting his experiments.

And the recent YouTube video by Brazilian scientists also verify the waters being flat.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Research and advice for the theory of flat Earth for a project..

« on: April 15, 2018, 09:55:45 PM »

You want the absolute authority on flat earth, Dr Samuel Rowbotham and his book, Earth not a globe. The Bedford level experiment, true distance of the sun, the true shape of the earth, and position of the earth in the universe would be good starting points.

You could also check out 100 proofs earth is not a globe by William carpenter. Those are pretty short passages that can easily fit into what you are looking to do.

But Dr Rowbotham is definitely a must, his work is revolutionary and the knowledge you will be introduced to will be eye opening.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: EnaG Chapter X , Cause of sun appearing larger when rising and setting than at N

« on: April 15, 2018, 09:50:07 PM »

Read Dr Rowbothams work, I'm sure your capable of doing that yourself.

That's what this whole discussion is about - testing Rowbotham's work. So, if you have evidence or an argument proving he is correct go ahead and present it.

Just look at it, the facts are crystal clear and speak for themselves. They don't need to be redone, they are irrefutable proof of what he was writing about.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun

« on: April 15, 2018, 06:56:07 PM »

Yet somehow he was able to calculate the true distance, despite lack of technology.

Great! So, have his calculations been confirmed by direct measurement?

Of course, he did the measurements himself.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun

« on: April 15, 2018, 05:35:30 PM »

Yet somehow he was able to calculate the true distance, despite lack of technology.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun

« on: April 15, 2018, 03:31:02 PM »

If you're asking the speed of the Sun as described by modern, real, science, then what you ask is a fairly easy task. In short, parallax measurements are taken to determine the distance of the Sun from the Earth. From this, the orbit of Earth can be plotted. Conservation of energy and momentum gives the speed at various points in the orbit. If you want a detailed description, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_speed

As for what it is in Flat Earth, well I'd assume it's just taking the radius of the Sun's circling and dividing by 24 hours.

Parallax is clueless about even elementary physics when he says "speed and distance are not the same thing." I think most anyone can understand that if we can measure a distance and know the angles at which we measured that distance, what we have is a coordinate system that uniquely represents every point in 3D space. If we know the position of a body at every point in time, then we can obviously differentiate that to get the velocity. Taking the magnitude of the velocity gives the speed. In layman's terms: I see the car at point A at t=0. I see the car at point B at t=0.001s. Therefore its speed is dist(A, B)/0.001s.

Not clueless, just that if it was relevant Dr Rowbotham would have measured it, and to my knowledge he didn't, so it's not anything to care about.