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Re: Trump
« Reply #10920 on: November 27, 2023, 02:12:15 AM »
Yes, it is possible that a woman does not scream in a department store when she is raped against her will. However, it is improbable.
It's quite a lot more probable than you think.  Or don't you think that being paralyzed by fear is a thing?

The series of explanations presented are pure excuse making, which you are explicitly making to explain away and justify a lack of evidence in this case. You pretend that we should be completely on board with believing a series of improbable excuses.
Sure, they're flimsy excuses...   Until you look at the psychology and biology of what happens in the brain when someone is experiencing a highly stressful situation, like being raped.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/23/why-many-rape-victims-dont-fight-or-yell/
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Re: Trump
« Reply #10921 on: November 27, 2023, 02:27:54 AM »
There are no numbers or percentages in that link. Do you seriously believe that a 52 year old woman who you pick to rape tomorrow in a department store dressing room will have a low likelihood of screaming to stop or screaming for help?

There may be "many" women in aggregate totality who do not scream when they are raped against their will, but this is not a denial that the great majority of women who are physically attacked and raped do scream. The article is an explanation for why some do not scream, and makes no effort to deny that most do scream.

Again, you guys are arguing for possibility instead of probability, purely as excuse making for the lack of evidence in this case. Because the arguments here are based on making excuses, it substantially weakens the case. It does not strengthen your case to argue based on a series of excuses.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #10922 on: November 27, 2023, 03:39:52 AM »
Again, you guys are arguing for possibility instead of probability, purely as excuse making for the lack of evidence in this case.
Lack of evidence?  Obviously the jury thought that there was enough evidence to find Trump liable for sexual assault.  That isn't a trivial charge.  If it were a criminal trial, he would likely be doing jail time and then be required to register as a sex offender.  Is that really the kind of man you want back in the White House?
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« Reply #10923 on: November 27, 2023, 04:33:52 AM »
Sexual abuse, not sexual assault. And let's not go crazy here - even setting aside statutes of limitations, there's no way anyone would be convicted in a criminal trial based on a he-said-she-said incident from over twenty-five years ago. For a civil trial, the verdict was reasonable, but even so, I suspect the main reason Trump lost was because he was caught lying about his preferences and whether or not he had previously met Carroll in his deposition, and that soured the jury against him. If he had acted like a normal person for once in his life and simply calmly and firmly denied the allegation, I think he would have won.
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« Reply #10924 on: November 27, 2023, 08:33:21 PM »
You are mainly just claiming things like it is possible that someone doesn't scream when they are raped. This possibility does nothing to erase that red flag.

Yes, it is possible that a woman does not scream in a department store when she is raped against her will. However, it is improbable. If you were to go and rape a woman in a store bathroom tomorrow against her will how likely is it that the woman will scream for help? Very likely, obviously.

The series of explanations presented are pure excuse making, which you are explicitly making to explain away and justify a lack of evidence in this case. You pretend that we should be completely on board with believing a series of improbable excuses.
Rates of screaming is minimal.  Its not "improbable" its "typical".  You're thinking like a man.  You're tough and your fight or flight typically turns to fight.  So you'd scream.  You'd claw and bite and do anything to stop it.

But a woman?  A quiet plea.  A silent prayer it'll be over soon.  Because that man CAN and WILL hurt you.  And no one is gonna believe you.

Also, rape is rarely "man pushes woman to the floor suddenly and shoves his dick into her.".
Its usually more subtle.  A pushy makeout session that turns more agressive until you can't stop him.

A knife or a threat of violence.

An unwanted touch that doesn't stop from someone you know will be trusted more than you.  Who would believe Donald Trump, a man who can have any woman, would do this to you?  No one.  "And if you scream, I'll ruin your life." And you know those aren't empty words.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #10925 on: December 02, 2023, 08:08:30 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67598948

Are you MAGA lot sick of all the winning yet?
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« Reply #10926 on: December 02, 2023, 01:12:36 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67598948

Are you MAGA lot sick of all the winning yet?

If you want to get a look at how the Maganoids are being played, check out the Fox coverage of the same story side-by-side.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-denies-trumps-claim-presidential-immunity-rules-against-request-drop-case

You have to push past an anti-Biden video to a small story which of course, includes the phrase,"Radical Democrats, under the direction of Crooked Joe Biden."
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« Reply #10928 on: December 04, 2023, 02:12:35 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67598948

Are you MAGA lot sick of all the winning yet?

Ironic comment from you since Trump is now winning the polls.
Too bad that winning polls doesn't necessarily translate into winning elections.  Or criminal trials.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #10930 on: December 06, 2023, 08:13:56 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/06/1217562544/trump-and-insiders-craft-plans-for-unprecedented-power

"Look, I'd only be a Dictator on Day 1, ok?" - Trump to Fox News

This SHOULD be a political death sentence.  But its not.  Its MOTIVATING.  That's right folks, America WANTS a dictatorship.  It wants one party to rule over all.  To crush the other.  To push them out of government for all time.

And the freedom loving conservatives will cheer as they stomp on freedom for all.
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« Reply #10931 on: December 09, 2023, 01:26:17 PM »
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18



Old news I haven't heard yet.

This is the video from jan 6.  Which isn't making conservatives happy because, apparently, blurring faces is a sure sign of conspiracy by the deep state.
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« Reply #10932 on: December 09, 2023, 01:41:45 PM »
Literally the first uploaded video proves it wasn't a peaceful protest where they were let in.
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« Reply #10933 on: December 09, 2023, 01:55:22 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/06/1217562544/trump-and-insiders-craft-plans-for-unprecedented-power

"Look, I'd only be a Dictator on Day 1, ok?" - Trump to Fox News


The hilarious/really sad part is that Hannity was honestly trying to help Trump out by giving him the opportunity to tell the world that he wasn't a dictator. Hannity should have have known that Trump can fuck up anything and make it worse.

lol  Steve Bannon gets it.
https://thehill.com/homenews/4347408-bannon-calls-hannity-an-idiot-for-asking-trump-if-he-would-be-dictator/

Of course he wants to be a dictator! That's the whole fucking plan! Don't ask him about it on TV you fucking idiot!
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Re: Trump
« Reply #10934 on: December 13, 2023, 12:20:05 PM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-selling-pieces-mugshot-suit-read-the-fine-print-2023-12

Two immediate thoughts:
-Trump's a grifting piece of crap.
-Are there really idoits out there that will buy this?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #10935 on: December 13, 2023, 01:23:22 PM »
a lotta yall still dont get it.

trump holders can use multiple slurp juices on a single trump.

so if you have 1 mugshot trump and 3 slurp juices you can create 3 new trumps.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #10936 on: December 14, 2023, 12:19:05 AM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-selling-pieces-mugshot-suit-read-the-fine-print-2023-12

From the article:
"In the event President Trump is unable to attend the Bonus Gala Dinner," or the dinner cannot happen for any other reason, "then we may reschedule the Bonus Gala Dinner or individuals who qualified for the Bonus Gala Dinner will be awarded a limited edition Trump NFT in lieu thereof, as determined by us in our sole discretion," according to the terms.

Yeah, you may have to wait until Trump gets out of jail before he can make it for your dinner.
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« Reply #10937 on: December 14, 2023, 04:57:37 AM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-selling-pieces-mugshot-suit-read-the-fine-print-2023-12

From the article:
"In the event President Trump is unable to attend the Bonus Gala Dinner," or the dinner cannot happen for any other reason, "then we may reschedule the Bonus Gala Dinner or individuals who qualified for the Bonus Gala Dinner will be awarded a limited edition Trump NFT in lieu thereof, as determined by us in our sole discretion," according to the terms.

Yeah, you may have to wait until Trump gets out of jail before he can make it for your dinner.

Pfft.  And dine with the peasants?
No no, you get the limited edition NTF, which is only limited because no one wanted to buy it.
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« Reply #10938 on: December 14, 2023, 08:30:00 PM »
Pfft.  And dine with the peasants?
No no, you get the limited edition NTF, which is only limited because no one wanted to buy it.
Well, he does make you buy enough NFTs to assure him that you are at least an upper middle class peasant.
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« Reply #10939 on: December 14, 2023, 09:39:53 PM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-selling-pieces-mugshot-suit-read-the-fine-print-2023-12

Two immediate thoughts:
-Trump's a grifting piece of crap.
-Are there really idoits out there that will buy this?

To the second thought: we're talking about MAGA here, so I'm gonna assume the answer is yes. That despite the original round of NFTs dropping significantly in value. Let's not forget that they are all morons.
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