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Re: Aeroplanes
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2016, 06:30:41 PM »
Not at all, I'm just not gonna waste anymore time dealing with your particular stupidity. It's that simple.
How cute. Well, I explained the physics to you. If you don't wish to learn, that's your prerogative. At least now it's out there in the open, so nobody will be deceived by your misleading claims.
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Re: Aeroplanes
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2016, 06:34:32 PM »
No you didn't. You explained your understanding of it, not how it actually works. This is the problem with FE in general, there's a difference in how it appears to work, and reality.

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/1193/why-does-the-atmosphere-rotate-along-with-the-earth

Have fun reading,  and stop throwing about home grown ideas.
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Re: Aeroplanes
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2016, 06:39:34 PM »
"Home grown ideas"? You're the one who thinks axial-flow fans rely on friction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_fan_design

Note that, as I explained, the air does not follow the spin of the fan's blades. This is not an FE vs RE issue, this is an "andruszkow doesn't understand fluid mechanics" issue.

It's also cute that you provided this link - the top answer explains precisely why friction is not the answer. But hey, I guess you'd have to actually read your source to know what it says ;)
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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2016, 11:45:05 AM »
"Home grown ideas"? You're the one who thinks axial-flow fans rely on friction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_fan_design

Note that, as I explained, the air does not follow the spin of the fan's blades. This is not an FE vs RE issue, this is an "andruszkow doesn't understand fluid mechanics" issue.

It's also cute that you provided this link - the top answer explains precisely why friction is not the answer. But hey, I guess you'd have to actually read your source to know what it says ;)
Apparently you didn't read it all, dummy :)
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Re: Aeroplanes
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2016, 02:59:09 AM »
Apparently you didn't read it all, dummy :)

Late to reply to this one, but your last several responses in this thread are personal insults and are against the rules. It is obvious you lost the debate with SexWarrior and unfortunately resorted to using ad-hominem attacks. You've been warned already for low-content posting. This is your last warning. Please review the rules.

Re: Aeroplanes
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2016, 07:31:00 AM »
Apparently you didn't read it all, dummy :)

Late to reply to this one, but your last several responses in this thread are personal insults and are against the rules. It is obvious you lost the debate with SexWarrior and unfortunately resorted to using ad-hominem attacks. You've been warned already for low-content posting. This is your last warning. Please review the rules.
I've never lost any argument to him. For a debate on this matter to be constructive or is only fair that you point out mistakes in people's claims, such as stopping people from continuing spreading bad science when they say friction isn't the reason the atmosphere is moving with earth's spin.

What happens to air inside a blender when you turn it on? Add a wee bit of smoke and it's obvious
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Re: Aeroplanes
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2016, 07:32:41 AM »
Also, as always something was taken out of context to divert the real issue at hand. I wasnt talking about the design of desk fans, but using fans as an example to explain what friction from solids can do to air
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Re: Aeroplanes
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2016, 12:24:13 PM »
What happens to air inside a blender when you turn it on?
That depends strongly on the blender's design, but usually it's going to be pushed downwards or pulled upwards.

The viscosity of the fluid (or other material) inside the blender could be important in many cases, but in case of air, it's not going to be much of a factor.

Perhaps you should refrain from trying to use engineering in your elaborate anecdotes? Your lack of understanding of how simple appliances are built really doesn't help your case. It's very difficult to understand what you're saying when you keep comparing it to your misconceptions of how household appliances work.
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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2016, 12:25:29 PM »
What happens to air inside a blender when you turn it on?
That depends strongly on the blender's design, but usually it's going to be pushed downwards or pulled upwards.
And rotate in the same direction as the blades I take it?
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Re: Aeroplanes
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2016, 12:30:38 PM »
And rotate in the same direction as the blades I take it?
I was editing my post after you responded - sorry.

No, in most cases it wouldn't rotate with the blades - air's viscosity is not sufficient for that. However, this will still vary greatly with blenders, and I'm sure you could find one that does cause rotation if you searched hard enough.
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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2016, 12:53:32 PM »
And rotate in the same direction as the blades I take it?
I was editing my post after you responded - sorry.

No, in most cases it wouldn't rotate with the blades - air's viscosity is not sufficient for that. However, this will still vary greatly with blenders, and I'm sure you could find one that does cause rotation if you searched hard enough.
But have you actually tried it? Because I have
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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2016, 05:34:48 PM »
But have you actually tried it? Because I have
Yes. I was lucky enough not to be a victim of Western education, meaning that I was frequently exposed to experiments in school.

I'm also an engineer, albeit not of a relevant specialisation. Regardless, I've used, disassembled and fixed enough blenders to feel quite comfortable with how they operate.
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