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Other Discussion Boards => Technology & Information => Topic started by: Saddam Hussein on January 22, 2015, 08:09:23 PM
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I am finally preparing to build my own PC. In this thread, I will chronicle the steps I take to complete my journey and join the glorious gaming elite. Right now, I have ordered most of the parts I need, save for a keyboard and monitor, which I am still deliberating over. One of my issues is money - I can afford the parts I'm buying, but I have to deal with the time-consuming idiosyncracies of my bank and my credit card company, as they never leave me quite sure of whether or not I have my money in the right accounts.
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inb4 everyone dumps on Saddam.
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inb4 the computer doesn't work because sadaam has done something wrong
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inb4 everyone dumps on Saddam.
I was considering it, but decided against it after all the bashing in the Saddam thread.
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inb4 everyone dumps on Saddam.
I was considering it, but decided against it after all the bashing in the Saddam thread.
And then I went to the Saddam bashing thread and saw that I was already too late.
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This thread is proceeding as anticipated. If anyone is interested, I'm following the "Great" build detailed here:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
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I was going to have a whinge that you're not using pcpartpicker or similar websites, but that's actually kinda cool.
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Yeah, that's a good start for a noob. Its hard to work out whether a better processor is worth the cash when you have no idea if your memory or graphics card is gonna ruin the performance and money would be better spent there instead.
Which one have you picked?
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This thread is proceeding as anticipated. If anyone is interested, I'm following the "Great" build detailed here:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Pleb. My system is three years old, and is still an approximate match for the "Enthusiast" build.
Also, this is a good idea. I'm looking forward to building another computer whenever my current hardware stops being good enough, which probably won't be for another few years. The next best thing is reading the experiences of others.
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Don't forget to connect the CPU power cable to the motherboard, Saddam.
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I am finally preparing to build my own PC. In this thread, I will chronicle the steps I take to complete my journey and join the glorious gaming elite. Right now, I have ordered most of the parts I need, save for a keyboard and monitor, which I am still deliberating over. One of my issues is money - I can afford the parts I'm buying, but I have to deal with the time-consuming idiosyncracies of my bank and my credit card company, as they never leave me quite sure of whether or not I have my money in the right accounts.
You should keep better track of your money. You should know how much is where, before the companies tell you what you have.
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Don't forget to connect the CPU power cable to the motherboard, Saddam.
lol, I forgot about that. I should remember it more often when Parsifal is telling me I don't know anything about computers.
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Don't forget to connect the CPU power cable to the motherboard, Saddam.
lol, I forgot about that. I should remember it more often when Parsifal is telling me I don't know anything about computers.
Is there something wrong with that statement?
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Saddam had a hard time telling me what his operating system was; I legitimately think that him building his own computer out of separate parts may be a Very Bad Idea. I would have much rather seen him use Digital Storm or IBuyPower as they charge very minor assembly fees.
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I think it's a good idea. It's hard to fuck up as long as you know how to use Google. You know how to use Google, right Saddamu-san? If he does fuck up we'll get more funny IRC logs, and he will have learned something.
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I think it's a good idea. It's hard to fuck up as long as you know how to use Google. You know how to use Google, right Saddamu-san? If he does fuck up we'll get more funny IRC logs, and he will have learned something.
The hardware is indeed hard to fuck up, but the software can be fidgety. e.g. the last hardware upgrade I did involved me updating the motherboard's BIOS due to it not recognizing the video card. I don't doubt that Saddam would eventually figure things out, I simply fear that his first PC master race experience might be hours and hours of annoyed troubleshooting with a hobby he doesn't even express interest in.
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He does express interest in it. We're posting in a thread which is all about his interest in it.
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He does express interest in it. We're posting in a thread which is all about his interest in it.
His interest in playing games he currently can't, yes, not necessarily his interest in building the computer.
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Saddam had a hard time telling me what his operating system was; I legitimately think that him building his own computer out of separate parts may be a Very Bad Idea. I would have much rather seen him use Digital Storm or IBuyPower as they charge very minor assembly fees.
At a brief glance, their prices seem to be pretty ridiculous.
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At a brief glance, their prices seem to be pretty ridiculous.
That's before you do their customization, as they try to throw lots of ridiculous unnecessary stuff on there (no, you don't need a SUPER MAX XTREME MEGA GAMING BROBOARD). After removing the garbage and totaling the part cost, IBuyPower adds about ~$50 on top of the parts, which is pretty good all things considered. I've never done the math on DigitalStorm, to be honest, but I assumed their prices would be similar.
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Just build a computer. I've built about 7. How hard can it be?
The hardest bit is ordering the right stuff. Putting it together is easier than lego. Worst case scenario, see a system you like, buy all the parts they say are in it, and put them together yourself.
Just post your parts before you buy. If there is anything incompatible or dumb, someone will let you know.
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Sorry, Thork, but I promised myself when I made this thread that I was going to ignore every word you said. It's for the best.
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Don't forget to connect the CPU power cable to the motherboard, Saddam.
lol, I forgot about that. I should remember it more often when Parsifal is telling me I don't know anything about computers.
Is there something wrong with that statement?
Parsifal forgot to do it when he was building his computer, which gave him pause for... like 2 hours, I think? Let's say I'm wrong and assume it was a couple of days. In any case, Thork seems to think that someone fucking up once is somehow comparable to his consistent incompetence.
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Don't forget to connect the CPU power cable to the motherboard, Saddam.
lol, I forgot about that. I should remember it more often when Parsifal is telling me I don't know anything about computers.
Is there something wrong with that statement?
Parsifal forgot to do it when he was building his computer, which gave him pause for... like 2 hours, I think? Let's say I'm wrong and assume it was a couple of days. In any case, Thork seems to think that someone fucking up once is somehow comparable to his consistent incompetence.
No, you are wrong, as usual. The point is I told him to plug his CPU in, despite being depicted as a 94 year old cavewoman in technical terms.
Sorry, Thork, but I promised myself when I made this thread that I was going to ignore every word you said. It's for the best.
Seems odd. Building computers is something I know a lot about. Just because I know sod all about servers and web management doesn't mean I have no expertise in any IT field at all. PizaaPlanet and Parsfial seem to think that serverside coding is the preserve of IT gods and that anyone who doesn't specialise in this must know nothing about computers.
Being as I used to be a pro-coder and have developed apps for iOS, Android and Windows Mobile that clients pay upwards of £30k a time for, plus all kinds of web based projects in javascript and jquery too, it can't be I'm computer illiterate. But they seem to have some snobbery around the whole bearded Linux and serverside dull crap that they are good at.
I'm also better than anyone I have ever met at VBA and that's before I start thinking of all the engineering programs I have coded in when I was again a paid engineer. My CV lists 19 languages I have done projects in - I'm self taught and I only have one IT qualification to my name ... and you know what that is for? Building fucking computers! >o<
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Another thread tries to metamorphose in to a Thork thread.
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In any case, I've already ordered and paid for all the parts. The total amount of money I spent was probably somewhere around nine hundred dollars.
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In any case, I've already ordered and paid for all the parts. The total amount of money I spent was probably somewhere around nine hundred dollars.
Sounds exciting. The best bit is always when you line up all the shiny boxes and then open the first one. :D
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Which case did you pick?
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I just ordered everything on the first row of the "Great" tier. In the case of the...case, it was this:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4
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I just ordered everything on the first row of the "Great" tier. In the case of the...case, it was this:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4 (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4)
Nice. Decent room to work, plenty of expansion slots.
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I honestly don't get the huge box requirements. Unless you have 6 hard drives or you need to burn several disks at once its just a ruddy big lump.
Nice. Decent room to work, plenty of expansion slots.
Decent room to work? How much 'work' do you do after you built it? As for expansion the thing I learned from experience is you build a PC once. Forget upgrading. If you got it right everything is pretty much balanced. To improve you'd need to change several things ... ergo its time to build a new PC. PCs seem to always last me about 3 years before I want to change them. At which point you normally find the processor sockets have changed or the memory is DDR2 or DD3 or DD4 etc, and the graphics cards need more power or the slot has changed for that too or that the motherboard bus speeds are two slow for what you want to do next.
I just ordered everything on the first row of the "Great" tier. In the case of the...case, it was this:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4 (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Computer/dp/B00BCXF6O4)
The i3 is the stand out choice there amongst those tiers. Those things are awesome. A really good pick. Hoping you opted for ssd. Did you get an aftermarket CPU fan? I don't see much point as you can't overclock that processor.
Good price for the spec, I think you'll be delighted. :D
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I honestly don't get the huge box requirements. Unless you have 6 hard drives or you need to burn several disks at once its just a ruddy big lump.
Nice. Decent room to work, plenty of expansion slots.
Decent room to work? How much 'work' do you do after you built it?
Ummmm.... I'm talking about when he builds it? You know, sliding the MB in, routing power and sata cables, hooking up the front panel, etc...
As for expansion the thing I learned from experience is you build a PC once. Forget upgrading. If you got it right everything is pretty much balanced. To improve you'd need to change several things ... ergo its time to build a new PC. PCs seem to always last me about 3 years before I want to change them. At which point you normally find the processor sockets have changed or the memory is DDR2 or DD3 or DD4 etc, and the graphics cards need more power or the slot has changed for that too or that the motherboard bus speeds are two slow for what you want to do next.
So when you add a new HDD, you change your whole PC?
Or never add a second graphics card?
Or more RAM?
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Decent room to work? How much 'work' do you do after you built it?
Ummmm.... I'm talking about when he builds it? You know, sliding the MB in, routing power and sata cables, hooking up the front panel, etc...
Why do you need tons of space for this? It is something you do once. He isn't going to build it with his feet.
So when you add a new HDD, you change your whole PC?
Or never add a second graphics card?
Or more RAM?
Why would I add a new HDD? I'd either build with plenty of HDD capacity to start with or get a separate external rack for my HDDs if I had some weird storage fetish and it could be hidden in a desk cupboard.
(http://www.cooldrives.com/ep.yimg.com/ca/I/cooldrives_2074_56734920.jpg)
Why would I add a second graphics card? Twice the noise, twice the power consumption, and I have to get the same one I'm trying to upgrade. I'm buying outdated crap. Its time for a new PC if you need another graphics card later cos you will want faster ram and a better processor to accompany it.
Why would I want to add more RAM? I built the PC for a purpose. Ram is dirt cheap. I'm going to put twice as much as I need in there anyway. My next realistic step will be faster ram. For that I will likely need a new mobo, ergo new PC.
Build a PC Dave and see. You don't end up upgrading them. Between f'd up upgrade paths and requirements of several components at once, you build a PC for now, and start saving for the next one unless you are on the bleeding edge and buying the latest everything as soon as it comes out because you have a money printing machine in your bedroom.
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This thread is starting to feel very familliar...
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Just let it happen.
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Just let it happen.
*He says smoothly as he touches rooster's thigh*
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Dave, we were all doing a great thing, that is we were ignoring Thork's shitposts. Please proceed to do the same and not allow Thork to turn this thread into a garbage heap.
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Dave, we were all doing a great thing, that is we were ignoring Thork's shitposts. Please proceed to do the same and not allow Thork to turn this thread into a garbage heap.
You know as little as Lord Dave does. ::)
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Just let it happen.
*He says smoothly as he touches rooster's thigh*
whhhhhy
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Dave, we were all doing a great thing, that is we were ignoring Thork's shitposts. Please proceed to do the same and not allow Thork to turn this thread into a garbage heap.
I'm sorry. I had a moment of weakness.
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I'm sorry. I had a moment of weakness.
Thank you. The forum is a little better for it.
Just let it happen.
*He says smoothly as he touches rooster's thigh*
whhhhhy
Why not?
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The case is purely personal preference as long as it does what you need. When I first started building about 15 years ago, I got whatever I could afford. I became an enthusiast after that and preferred larger cases. They provide more room to tuck and hide cables (especially if you used heat shrink), and more room for larger fans for better cooling. I was very intense into PC building around 2004. Trying to find the perfect pairing of CPU with memory that had great latency (good CAS/RAS timings). This is back when FSB was actually a thing and you had to take it into account if you were ever going to overclock successfully. These days I go for small and quiet since my only desktops are a media center box and a server I use for training.
Anyway, good for you Saddam. It is great that you are doing it. If you need any help, I'd be happy to assist. I've built more than 200 PCs in the past 10 years, so I know a thing, possibly even two.
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Why not?
Cause PP2 could someday be my brother in law. It's just awkward and I didn't realize the people of FES were into that kind of kinky shit.
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Why not?
Cause PP2 could someday be my brother in law. It's just awkward and I didn't realize the people of FES were into that kind of kinky shit.
It was Vauxy who said it. Of course he's into it.
The case is purely personal preference as long as it does what you need. When I first started building about 15 years ago, I got whatever I could afford. I became an enthusiast after that and preferred larger cases. They provide more room to tuck and hide cables (especially if you used heat shrink), and more room for larger fans for better cooling. I was very intense into PC building around 2004. Trying to find the perfect pairing of CPU with memory that had great latency (good CAS/RAS timings). This is back when FSB was actually a thing and you had to take it into account if you were ever going to overclock successfully. These days I go for small and quiet since my only desktops are a media center box and a server I use for training.
Anyway, good for you Saddam. It is great that you are doing it. If you need any help, I'd be happy to assist. I've built more than 200 PCs in the past 10 years, so I know a thing, possibly even two.
Thanks, broseph. I appreciate that.
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Why not?
Cause PP2 could someday be my brother in law. It's just awkward and I didn't realize the people of FES were into that kind of kinky shit.
I guess you missed every time we've made a joke about A&A being PP2.
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Saddam what operatory systematic did you commence to receive from the interweb.
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I guess you missed every time we've made a joke about A&A being PP2.
I didn't, I just hated it every time.
Someone send me the money to make my own computer. plx n tank u
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I guess you missed every time we've made a joke about A&A being PP2.
I didn't, I just hated it every time.
Then it's working. ;D
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The case is purely personal preference as long as it does what you need. When I first started building about 15 years ago, I got whatever I could afford. I became an enthusiast after that and preferred larger cases. They provide more room to tuck and hide cables (especially if you used heat shrink), and more room for larger fans for better cooling. I was very intense into PC building around 2004. Trying to find the perfect pairing of CPU with memory that had great latency (good CAS/RAS timings). This is back when FSB was actually a thing and you had to take it into account if you were ever going to overclock successfully. These days I go for small and quiet since my only desktops are a media center box and a server I use for training.
Anyway, good for you Saddam. It is great that you are doing it. If you need any help, I'd be happy to assist. I've built more than 200 PCs in the past 10 years, so I know a thing, possibly even two.
Yeah, those are good points. I bought a fairly large case myself, and I'm finding that I would prefer a bit more space for more fans (thanks to no AC in my house), and an easier time cleaning components. Even though 80% of my HDD and CD slots are empty, I'd still like more space.
So the bigger the better, imo
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Saddam what operatory systematic did you commence to receive from the interweb.
Shh, I was hoping he wouldn't realise he needs software until he tries to boot it for the first time.
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Saddam what operatory systematic did you commence to receive from the interweb.
Shh, I was hoping he wouldn't realise he needs software until he tries to boot it for the first time.
I will literally roll on the floor laughing if sadman forgot to order an operating system.
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I am aware that I will need software, but I wasn't planning on ordering any until I consulted with the wise people here. Which I might as well do now. Any recommendations?
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I am aware that I will need software, but I wasn't planning on ordering any until I consulted with the wise people here. Which I might as well do now. Any recommendations?
OpenBSD 5.6 (https://www.openbsdstore.com/cgi-bin/live/ecommerce.pl?site=shop_openbsdeurope_dollar&state=item&dept_id=01&sub_dept_id=01&product_id=CD56).
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I am aware that I will need software, but I wasn't planning on ordering any until I consulted with the wise people here. Which I might as well do now. Any recommendations?
It's a gaming computer, so your options are pretty much limited to Windows, Windows, and uhh, Windows. When it comes to broad spectrum gaming there really isn't another option. If you have one specific game that you want to play, then some drudging through Linux would be a time waster but money saver. You're building a computer so OSX isn't even a (legal) option.
If do make the poor choice of opting for Linux, at least do yourself a favor and install Mint or Ubuntu. Parsifal's suggestion is just sadism.
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If do make the poor choice of opting for Linux, at least do yourself a favor and install Mint or Ubuntu. Parsifal's suggestion is just sadism.
I didn't suggest installing Linux, so I don't see what my suggestion has to do with the rest of this paragraph.
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I didn't suggest installing Linux, so I don't see what my suggestion has to do with the rest of this paragraph.
I didn't suggest you suggested Linux. I suggested Linux distros and then noted that the system you suggested is sadism.
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Ubuntu's a good OS for internet and basic use. Absolutely not for a gaming computer, though.
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He's a novice who wants to game. He needs Windows.
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Windows it is, then. Another $120 to sink into this. :(
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Ubuntu's a good OS for internet and basic use. Absolutely not for a gaming computer, though.
Incorrect on both counts. A gaming computer is the one use case Ubuntu fits well, since Steam just ignores all the system libraries and ships its own, so the fact that Ubuntu is a crappy distro doesn't actually matter in that case.
Another $120 to sink into this. :(
No, that's not how you Windows. Stop being a noob.
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No, that's not how you Windows. Stop being a noob.
Saddam may have trouble running Windows the free way.
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No, that's not how you Windows. Stop being a noob.
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Windows it is, then. Another $120 to sink into this. :(
the good news is if you get Windows 8.1 (don't be tempted by Windows 7, you'll learn to live with Metro) the good news is if you get Windows 8.1 you'll get a free upgrade to windows 10 when it comes out later in the year.
Point of note ... are you going to be using this just for gaming or home entertainment as well? If you want to go down the home entertainment route and watch TV and videos you are going to want to spend a bit more.
You'll need an infra red receiver and card, and a remote. You are maybe going to want Windows 8.1 Pro. The home addition doesn't allow you to download Windows Media Center. there are other options, but the pro version is going to work well with xbox live as well in Windows 10. And you want a gaming PC ...
http://uk.businessinsider.com/microsoft-xbox-one-games-will-play-nice-with-windows-10-pcs-tablets-2015-1?r=US
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the good news is if you get Windows 8.1 (don't be tempted by Windows 7, you'll learn to live with Metro) the good news is if you get Windows 8.1 you'll get a free upgrade to windows 10 when it comes out later in the year.
Point of note ... are you going to be using this just for gaming or home entertainment as well? If you want to go down the home entertainment route and watch TV and videos you are going to want to spend a bit more.
You'll need an infra red receiver and card, and a remote. You are maybe going to want Windows 8.1 Pro. The home addition doesn't allow you to download Windows Media Center. there are other options, but the pro version is going to work well with xbox live as well in Windows 10. And you want a gaming PC ...
http://uk.businessinsider.com/microsoft-xbox-one-games-will-play-nice-with-windows-10-pcs-tablets-2015-1?r=US
Sorry, Thork, but I promised myself when I made this thread that I was going to ignore every word you said. It's for the best.
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Meh, if mention something that resonates, he can ask all the wise people on here whose opinions are the gold standard of real world advice.
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I've solved his Windows problem.
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I've solved his Windows problem.
What did you suggest? Did you get him a code?
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I've solved his Windows problem.
What did you suggest? Did you get him a code?
He has a copy of Win 8.1 Enterprise
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The operating system of choice for all of your Star Trek related needs.
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Windows it is, then. Another $120 to sink into this. :(
Windows 8.1 ...
... is just sadism.
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markjo'd. Anyway, I've got everything except for the monitor and keyboard now, and hopefully this Windows thing that Junker is helping me out with will work out.
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You'll need an infra red receiver and card, and a remote.
Or, just a wireless keyboard/mouse.
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...hopefully this Windows thing that Junker is helping me out with will work out.
>:( It will work.
It will probably be the easiest part of this build.
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Saddam, film your build and timelapse it. Then add it into to youtube. :-D
That way when you snap the motherboard in half putting in the processor, it can be enjoyed by thousands of people on the internet.
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That way when you snap the motherboard in half putting in the processor, it can be enjoyed by thousands of people on the internet.
Yes, because ZIF sockets tend to end up in broken motherboards ::)
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That way when you snap the motherboard in half putting in the processor, it can be enjoyed by thousands of people on the internet.
Yes, because ZIF sockets tend to end up in broken motherboards ::)
That's bullshit. Where's the evil metal spring gone?
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Saddam should try installing OpenBSD anyway. It would make for an entertaining IRC conversation, and he can always replace it with Windows afterwards.
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Saddam, film your build and timelapse it. Then add it into to youtube. :-D
That way when you snap the motherboard in half putting in the processor, it can be enjoyed by thousands of people on the internet.
Don't ask him to do something he's clearly incapable of.
Also, Sorry, Thork, but I promised myself when I made this thread that I was going to ignore every word you said. It's for the best.
Why are you still talking to him?
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Windows it is, then. Another $120 to sink into this. :(
the good news is if you get Windows 8.1 (don't be tempted by Windows 7, you'll learn to live with Metro) the good news is if you get Windows 8.1 you'll get a free upgrade to windows 10 when it comes out later in the year.
You get a free upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 as well, so why bother with the monstrosity that is Windows 8.1?
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Anyone who doesn't think Windows 8.1 is better than Windows 7 doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.
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Anyone who doesn't think Windows 8.1 is better than Windows 7 doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.
What a compelling argument.
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My level of computer knowledge is probably on Saddam's plebeian level. Windows 8 is awful and completely un-user friendly.
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Anyone who doesn't think Windows XP is better than Windows 7 & 8 doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.
Fixed that for you.
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My level of computer knowledge is probably on Saddam's plebeian level. Windows 8 is awful and completely un-user friendly.
Thankfully, Windows 8 and 8.1 are different.
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Let's see the beast once it's all put together. Also where's the picture of all your boxes stacked up?
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My level of computer knowledge is probably on Saddam's plebeian level. Windows 8 is awful and completely un-user friendly.
Thankfully, Windows 8 and 8.1 are different.
That's true, it's nice to have a start menu again but I would still rather go back to 7.
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Anyone who doesn't think Windows 8.1 is better than Windows 7 doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.
People are just very upset about Metro/Modern UI, which I can honestly understand. However, given that 3rd party solutions to that problem exist and work well, this is no reason to write Win8 off completely.
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Let's see the beast once it's all put together. Also where's the picture of all your boxes stacked up?
Too late for the boxes, but I'll post a picture of the computer once it's complete.
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My level of computer knowledge is probably on Saddam's plebeian level. Windows 8 is awful and completely un-user friendly.
Thankfully, Windows 8 and 8.1 are different.
That's true, it's nice to have a start menu again but I would still rather go back to 7.
I prefer 8.1 simply because of performance improvements. The stupid tile screen is easily avoided and somewhat useful when you get used to it. I tried upgrading my W7 desktop to 8.1 lately and couldn't (easily) without paying, so I dropped it there, but otherwise I would.
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Let's see the beast once it's all put together. Also where's the picture of all your boxes stacked up?
Too late for the boxes, but I'll post a picture of the computer once it's complete.
I hope you are as excited as I get when I make a new computer. Its a lot of fun. :-)
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Anyone who doesn't think Windows 8.1 is better than Windows 7 doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.
My primary experience with Windows 8 is installing print drivers on other people's computers. Why, oh why did they have to make it so gawd awfully unintuitive to get at the th*rking print drivers? >o<
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Please stop posting, markjo.
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Please stop posting, markjo.
Reported( memberating)
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Behold, the PC that I can't seem to connect to my monitor:
(http://i.imgur.com/Bfo9IlN.jpg)
As soon as I get a chance, I'm going to buy an HDMI cable and see if that works. If it doesn't, I have no idea what I'm going to do.
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I had an older computer that was fully functional, but running a very old Pentium D. It did have an SSD, though. So Secret User and I took it out to the desert earlier today and blew it away with a 12 gauge. A mix of buckshot and slugs turned it into a mangled piece of sheet metal and silicon. The remaining pieces were successfully recycled. The exit wound from a 12 gauge slug is an impressive sight.
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Behold, the PC that I can't seem to connect to my monitor:
(http://i.imgur.com/Bfo9IlN.jpg)
As soon as I get a chance, I'm going to buy an HDMI cable and see if that works. If it doesn't, I have no idea what I'm going to do.
What are you getting on your monitor, the same thing you get if you have no cable plugged in? (ie. it can't even detect that a cable exists)
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What are you getting on your monitor, the same thing you get if you have no cable plugged in? (ie. it can't even detect that a cable exists)
"can't seem to connect" is pretty vague. Not sure if he has it plugged in properly.
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He was getting a "no signal" message at one point with VGA. I'm not sure if that was before or after he turned his graphics card's power cable the right way around, though.
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What are you getting on your monitor, the same thing you get if you have no cable plugged in? (ie. it can't even detect that a cable exists)
"can't seem to connect" is pretty vague. Not sure if he has it plugged in properly.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on being able to put a uniquely shaped plug into the only slot it'll go.
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He was getting a "no signal" message at one point with VGA. I'm not sure if that was before or after he turned his graphics card's power cable the right way around, though.
He put the power cable backwards? That was possible?
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Yes, he put the two ends that should go into the graphics card into the PSU. He probably should have gotten a regular PSU instead of a modular.
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What are you getting on your monitor, the same thing you get if you have no cable plugged in? (ie. it can't even detect that a cable exists)
"can't seem to connect" is pretty vague. Not sure if he has it plugged in properly.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on being able to put a uniquely shaped plug into the only slot it'll go.
One of his plugs on the power cable for the GPU would not fit at one point, but Saddam said it did fit when he bent some of the pins out of the way. You should be more mindful on who you give the benefit of the doubt to.
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Yes, his GPU seems to have one 8-pin power socket and one 6-pin, but the plugs on his cable were seemingly both 8-pin, but one of them has two pins that can be bent aside so that it can fit in the 6-pin socket.
I don't know if he was aware of this before he decided to put the cable the wrong way, but he seemed to have been.
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He probably should have gotten a regular PSU instead of a modular.
You mean it would have been a good idea to do research before blindly buying the parts listed on Logical Increments? What a twist!
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What are you getting on your monitor, the same thing you get if you have no cable plugged in? (ie. it can't even detect that a cable exists)
"can't seem to connect" is pretty vague. Not sure if he has it plugged in properly.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on being able to put a uniquely shaped plug into the only slot it'll go.
One of his plugs on the power cable for the GPU would not fit at one point, but Saddam said it did fit when he bent some of the pins out of the way. You should be more mindful on who you give the benefit of the doubt to.
6 or 8 pin GPU power adapter (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198022&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Internal+Power+Cables-_-N82E16812198022&gclid=CjwKEAiA0uGmBRDwj7mE1v-LlCYSJADxH16O9HEGVtDOa0YaDHVU3wW6H2to9HLIUgWBby9BiibjiBoCKMTw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
I assume something like that.
Yes, he put the two ends that should go into the graphics card into the PSU. He probably should have gotten a regular PSU instead of a modular.
I see...
Well, I'll wait back to hear from Saddam on the subject.
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What are you getting on your monitor, the same thing you get if you have no cable plugged in? (ie. it can't even detect that a cable exists)
"can't seem to connect" is pretty vague. Not sure if he has it plugged in properly.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on being able to put a uniquely shaped plug into the only slot it'll go.
One of his plugs on the power cable for the GPU would not fit at one point, but Saddam said it did fit when he bent some of the pins out of the way. You should be more mindful on who you give the benefit of the doubt to.
6 or 8 pin GPU power adapter (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198022&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Internal+Power+Cables-_-N82E16812198022&gclid=CjwKEAiA0uGmBRDwj7mE1v-LlCYSJADxH16O9HEGVtDOa0YaDHVU3wW6H2to9HLIUgWBby9BiibjiBoCKMTw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
I assume something like that.
No, his GPU has two sockets for power, the cable has two plugs on one end, and one on the other end. Saddam decided that the two plugs need to be plugged into the PSU to feed power to one of the sockets on the GPU.
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What are you getting on your monitor, the same thing you get if you have no cable plugged in? (ie. it can't even detect that a cable exists)
"can't seem to connect" is pretty vague. Not sure if he has it plugged in properly.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on being able to put a uniquely shaped plug into the only slot it'll go.
One of his plugs on the power cable for the GPU would not fit at one point, but Saddam said it did fit when he bent some of the pins out of the way. You should be more mindful on who you give the benefit of the doubt to.
6 or 8 pin GPU power adapter (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198022&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Internal+Power+Cables-_-N82E16812198022&gclid=CjwKEAiA0uGmBRDwj7mE1v-LlCYSJADxH16O9HEGVtDOa0YaDHVU3wW6H2to9HLIUgWBby9BiibjiBoCKMTw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
I assume something like that.
No, his GPU has two sockets for power, the cable has two plugs on one end, and one on the other end. Saddam decided that the two plugs need to be plugged into the PSU to feed power to one of the sockets on the GPU.
Oooohhh, I see.
He's using two power cables now, yes?
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No, I think he's using the same one, now correctly plugged in. He's just not getting any signal to his monitor. He's tried with both a VGA cable and a DVI to HDMI cable.
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He also has an HDMI-to-HDMI cable, but doesn't want to use it because it isn't labelled as such, so he's going to buy another one.
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No, I think he's using the same one, now correctly plugged in. He's just not getting any signal to his monitor. He's tried with both a VGA cable and a DVI to HDMI cable.
Did he consider that the single GPU port doesn't provide enough power to the card and that he should plug two cables in so each power port on his GPU has dedicated power on the PSU?
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No, I think he's using the same one, now correctly plugged in. He's just not getting any signal to his monitor. He's tried with both a VGA cable and a DVI to HDMI cable.
Did he consider that the single GPU port doesn't provide enough power to the card and that he should plug two cables in so each power port on his GPU has dedicated power on the PSU?
No, he just assumed that if he bent enough pins around and made it fit, then it would be fine. Don't ask if he read any of the documentation or any of that crazy stuff.
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So based on what everyone has said I'm going to guess he went with the seasonic power supply.
So he plugged the GPU end of the cable into the PCI-E 8 pin and the Perhipheral port on the PSU while putting the 8 pin into his GPU.
So his GPU got WAY too much power in one port. So it could be fried.
Also, you NEED to plug in one cable per slot for your GPU. This ensures proper power to your GPU because I'm not convinced the PSU puts out enough watts in each 8 pin port for your entire card.
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So his GPU got WAY too much power in one port. So it could be fried.
Yes. It's also possible that his CPU has no thermal paste.
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If I ever build a PC, I'm just going to ask you guys to tell me what parts to buy. And then I would hope you would be more chivalrous to my attempts to build it while I act like a clueless female.
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If I ever build a PC, I'm just going to ask you guys to tell me what parts to buy. And then I would hope you would be more chivalrous to my attempts to build it while I act like a clueless female.
We don't make fun of Saddam because he's clueless. We make fun of him because he makes himself an easy target.
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clueless.
easy target.
Distinction without a difference.
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clueless.
easy target.
Distinction without a difference.
No, he makes himself an easy target by not bothering to try to learn anything for himself or ask questions, despite admitting he doesn't know anything. I lost all sympathy for him when he told Blanko he "didn't need" thermal paste.
It's one thing to be clueless and try to learn. It's quite another to be clueless and completely unconcerned about it.
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No, I think he's using the same one, now correctly plugged in. He's just not getting any signal to his monitor. He's tried with both a VGA cable and a DVI to HDMI cable.
Did he consider that the single GPU port doesn't provide enough power to the card and that he should plug two cables in so each power port on his GPU has dedicated power on the PSU?
nope.
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I seriously regret ever making this thread and ever telling FES about my plans for a computer. It simply hasn't been worth it.
Parsifal, please stop making such non-constructive comments.
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Why are you so sensitive/defensive about this? You don't know anything about making a computer and that's totally okay. There's no need to be so hostile.
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I seriously regret ever making this thread and ever telling FES about my plans for a computer. It simply hasn't been worth it.
Parsifal, go slash your wrists. The world will be a better place without you.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I want to help.
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Why are you so sensitive/defensive about this? You don't know anything about making a computer and that's totally okay. There's no need to be so hostile.
You're right, I shouldn't rant. I suppose seeing Parsifal suddenly switch gears from his constant dickery to a sanctimonious high-horse attitude in this thread angered me a bit more than usual. But he's the only one I've really had a problem with, there's no need to project it on to anyone else.
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Just to clarify though, why do/did you thing that you don't need the thermal paste?
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You're right, I shouldn't rant. I suppose seeing Parsifal suddenly switch gears from his constant dickery to a sanctimonious high-horse attitude in this thread angered me a bit more than usual. But he's the only one I've really had a problem with, there's no need to project it on to anyone else.
Parsifal has a valid point to make, he's just particularly shit at making it. It's often very annoying to tech-savvy people to see those who don't really know what they're doing ask for help and then suddenly start behaving like they know better than the person(s) they're asking for help.
The community has grown particularly sensitive to this problem, so we often tend to overreact to (perceived) instances of that issue. Mind you, I'm completely out of the loop on what's happening, so I'm not trying to judge whether or not this was an overreaction or justified condescension; I'm just trying to shed some light on the psychological aspects of these kind of interactions.
That said, if you need any help with anything specific, feel free to bring me up to speed on the situation (It seems like a lot of the conversations took place on IRC, or maybe I'm just dumb and failing to piece a coherent story from this thread) and I might be able to assist. Although that was ages ago, I've assembled a few computers and have some idea of how to troubleshoot them. Then again, you seem to have plenty of volunteers already, so maybe that's not necessary. Whatever works for you.
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Just to clarify though, why do/did you thing that you don't need the thermal paste?
The fan came attached to a base that had four pegs. I was told by the instructions to insert each of the pegs into the holes around the processor's space on the motherboard. There was no mention of thermal paste. And I read on the Internet that there are a number of fans that are made in such a way that you don't need to apply any thermal paste. That's it. I wasn't making some kind of objective claim that I personally was somehow above using thermal paste, or that no thermal paste had been used in the construction of the fan, only that it didn't look like I needed to use any.
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He's tried with both a VGA cable and a DVI to HDMI cable.
Are you saying that he used those in conjuction, as in HDMI -> DVI -> VGA?
The fan came attached to a base that had four pegs. I was told by the instructions to insert each of the pegs into the holes around the processor's space on the motherboard. There was no mention of thermal paste. And I read on the Internet that there are a number of fans that are made in such a way that you don't need to apply any thermal paste. That's it. I wasn't making some kind of objective claim that I personally was somehow above using thermal paste, or that no thermal paste had been used in the construction of the fan, only that it didn't look like I needed to use any.
It's possible that there already was thermal paste on the HSF (heat sink and fan unit). That's usually the case if the instructions do not mention needing to apply it. That should be easy to verify for your HSF.
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while I act like a clueless female.
That's what Saddam tried.
Sorry Saddam, couldn't resist! :D
I think the issue is very obvious. Saddam has spent a good deal of money on parts. He is flying a bit blind and is scared he's going to break it and won't know what broke and all those parts are a waste of money as he never finishes it. So he's taking forever and afraid something will go wrong.
I have to say at this point, if I thought it was going to be that stressful, I'd have paid the extra $50-100 and just ordered a bespoke computer online and let someone else build it. If you take labour and stress into account, it may have been a better route. But anyway ... he can't be far away now and next time he'll breeze through it.
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I'd have paid the extra $50-100 and just ordered a bespoke computer online and let someone else build it.
Make that $500 and you've got a case. There's a good reason people choose to build their own PCs.
...get it? Case. Like, chassis, lol.
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I'd have paid the extra $50-100 and just ordered a bespoke computer online and let someone else build it.
Make that $500 and you've got a case. There's a good reason people choose to build their own PCs.
...get it? Case. Like, chassis, lol.
I assume it gets easier to build your own PC every time as well. Saddam will get increasing returns on this pain of his.
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I'd have paid the extra $50-100 and just ordered a bespoke computer online and let someone else build it.
Make that $500 and you've got a case. There's a good reason people choose to build their own PCs.
...get it? Case. Like, chassis, lol.
Not these days. Builders are very competitive. Go to one of those modify your PC sites. On a $600 PC they don't make much of a margin at all.
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Depending on the site, Thork is right (for once), PC build labor costs about $25-50.
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I suppose seeing Parsifal suddenly switch gears from his constant dickery to a sanctimonious high-horse attitude in this thread angered me a bit more than usual. But he's the only one I've really had a problem with, there's no need to project it on to anyone else.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but that's not how it looks from where I'm standing. Maybe I have been a bit on the abrasive side, but I've been trying to be helpful whenever there's something I know the answer to from memory. Having only built one computer, that isn't always.
I also don't think I have a "sanctimonious high-horse attitude". Rooster posted a comment on our chivalry (or lack thereof), and I attempted to clarify. That's all.
I apologise if I've come across any other way.
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I suppose seeing Parsifal suddenly switch gears from his constant dickery to a sanctimonious high-horse attitude in this thread angered me a bit more than usual. But he's the only one I've really had a problem with, there's no need to project it on to anyone else.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but that's not how it looks from where I'm standing. Maybe I have been a bit on the abrasive side, but I've been trying to be helpful whenever there's something I know the answer to from memory. Having only built one computer, that isn't always.
I also don't think I have a "sanctimonious high-horse attitude". Rooster posted a comment on our chivalry (or lack thereof), and I attempted to clarify. That's all.
I apologise if I've come across any other way.
Okay, let's hug and make up. :-*
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Aww, how sweet.
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He's tried with both a VGA cable and a DVI to HDMI cable.
Are you saying that he used those in conjuction, as in HDMI -> DVI -> VGA?
He's got one regular VGA cable. One cable with a HDMI plug in one end, and a DVI in the other. He has tried both. No signal. According to Parsifal, he also has a regular HDMI cable, but Saddam supposedly doesn't believe it's a HDMI because it doesn't say HDMI anywhere on it (apparently it says VGA and DVI/HDMI on the other cables respectively...). From what I've figured, his monitor only supports VGA and HDMI for some reason.
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Doesn't have a DVI cable lying around?
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What good would a DVI cable do when his monitor doesn't have a DVI port? And no, he probably doesn't have one lying around since he's been a laptopfag until now.
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According to Parsifal, he also has a regular HDMI cable, but Saddam supposedly doesn't believe it's a HDMI because it doesn't say HDMI anywhere on it
I have no idea what this is in reference to. There are no other cables.
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Anyway, as Dave said, there's a good chanse you fried your GPU by giving it too much power through the one power socket when you had the cable turned the wrong way.. :-\
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I don't think I ever turned it on like that. I had originally arranged it with one plug in the power, one in the GPU, and the other in the air connected to nothing. I put the two plugs in the power only for a couple of minutes while I conferred with the wise people of IRC about what the right way to do it was. And in any case, the GPU's fan is whirring normally, which would seem to indicate that it's fine. Or maybe it doesn't. That's just an assumption on my part.
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The fans might still be getting power even if some chips and circuits have been fried.
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Saddam, have you left the computer powered on for a couple of minutes to see if maybe the BIOS just needs time to make sure everything's okay before the initial boot? Do computers still do that?
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Never heard of that.
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Saddam, have you left the computer powered on for a couple of minutes to see if maybe the BIOS just needs time to make sure everything's okay before the initial boot? Do computers still do that?
Never heard of that.
Some motherboards can do in-depth memory checks on boot, instead of the usual default quick scan. This can take considerable time especially if you have a lot of RAM. If you don't have verbose mode enabled, it can sit at the BIOS splash screen for a long time, leaving you to wonder the hell is wrong, only to boot normally at the end. However, you would get video of some kind on the screen either way, so that isn't likely the issue.
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Last computer I built years ago didn't have any indication that it was doing anything. Only after troubleshooting for a couple hours did I re-read the instruction manual to find out that it could take a minute or two before the computer did anything while the BIOS was doing its initial scan.
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What good would a DVI cable do when his monitor doesn't have a DVI port? And no, he probably doesn't have one lying around since he's been a laptopfag until now.
Wait, isn't DVI the newer port whereas VGA is the shitty old type? Why would a monitor have a VGA and HDMI but not a DVI?
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I was building a PC to play Elite: Dangerous and then, well, the game came out.
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I was building a PC to play Elite: Dangerous and then, well, the game came out.
You should have been building a PC that would be able to play other games as well. All that effort didn't have to go to waste.
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I was building a PC to play Elite: Dangerous and then, well, the game came out.
You should have been building a PC that would be able to play other games as well. All that effort didn't have to go to waste.
The PC was actually built to be a mock-cockpit, complete with windows (monitors), buttons (various keyboards wired into the motherboard), and a built in joystick sticking out of the tower. It is virtually impossible to play other games on it. There is no mouse and no USB ports for other devices. It cost $16,000 to build.
I had to use my life savings to build this thing. Elite: Dangerous has ruined my life.
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Wait, isn't DVI the newer port whereas VGA is the shitty old type? Why would a monitor have a VGA and HDMI but not a DVI?
VGA is still the lowest common denominator when it comes to displays. A display manufacturer that uses HDMI for digital video will generally also provide a VGA port for compatibility with older hardware. It doesn't even have to be all that old to be useful; I own a few systems produced in the past decade with VGA only. I wouldn't use them for any serious graphics (they're all either laptops or headless systems), but they do exist, and sometimes it's useful to plug in a monitor.
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Also, VGA is convertible to DVI-A and HDMI is convertible to DVI-D. If you provide both VGA and HDMI, you're already implicitly providing both types of DVI.
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Yeah, I guess there's always adapters. I haven't worked with many monitors, but the ones that I have had always had either DVI & VGA, or DVI & HDMI. Needless to say, they're newer ones.
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PC is complete, made some additional modifications to the casing.
(http://i.imgur.com/C6p23zW.jpg)
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Nailed it. Good job, kid.
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I've built quite a few computers for myself and relatives/friends. And so far I haven't had a single brick. If you send me the parts, I'll build it for you if you pay the shipping costs. I'll burn it in for you, and install all of your drivers and software too.
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>send parts to Andrew
>Andrew
>Andrew
>Andrew
lol no
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But Saddam! He's built quite a few computers for himself and relatives/friends!
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He also kept the book for about 2 years.
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>send parts to Andrew
>Andrew
>Andrew
>Andrew
lol no
Obviously I'm being facetious. But this is something I'd actually really do.
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I did it! It's working! It's fucking working!
I'm not entirely sure what the problem even was, now that I come to think of it. I had spent some time poring over it, but I didn't actually change anything. One minute it wasn't working, and the next minute it was. Maybe I secured some loose connections or something? Oh, well. The important thing is that I got it working.
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Congratulations, Saddam. This is a defining moment in your life. You will talk about this on the internet for days to come. You are one of the very few, one of the elite.
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Congratulations, Saddam. This is a defining moment in your life. You will talk about this on the internet for days to come. You are one of the very few, one of the elite.
inb4 saddam tells you to kill yourself
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Congratulations, Saddam. This is a defining moment in your life. You will talk about this on the internet for days to come. You are one of the very few, one of the elite.
You jeer, but most people have never built a computer, will never build one, and would have absolutely no idea how to go about building one. Online communities simply aren't a representative sample of the population. If they were, then Rush would be the biggest band in the world, Ron Paul would be the president, major religions would have no more influence or notability than any nut claiming to talk to God, and Internet Explorer would have been laughed out of existence a long time ago. PC gamers/builders/enthusiasts are a very vocal minority, but a minority nevertheless.
And that's not a bad thing! Really, a lot of you guys just seem to take your skills and expertise on the subject for granted, and downplay it as basic common knowledge that everyone ought to have. You're doing yourselves a real disservice there. You've found something that you're good at, so take pride in it. Don't write it off as if it's nothing. Treasure our different strengths and weaknesses, and we will be one step closer to world peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w3Lm_gu-ZY
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Congratulations, Saddam. This is a defining moment in your life. You will talk about this on the internet for days to come. You are one of the very few, one of the elite.
You jeer, but most people have never built a computer, will never build one, and would have absolutely no idea how to go about building one. Online communities simply aren't a representative sample of the population. If they were, then Rush would be the biggest band in the world, Ron Paul would be the president, major religions would have no more influence or notability than any nut claiming to talk to God, and Internet Explorer would have been laughed out of existence a long time ago. PC gamers/builders/enthusiasts are a very vocal minority, but a minority nevertheless.
And that's not a bad thing! Really, a lot of you guys just seem to take your skills and expertise on the subject for granted, and downplay it as basic common knowledge that everyone ought to have. You're doing yourselves a real disservice there. You've found something that you're good at, so take pride in it. Don't write it off as if it's nothing. Treasure our different strengths and weaknesses, and we will be one step closer to world peace.
tl;dr
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Congrats, Saddam.
Let's hope that was the hard part.
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Congratulations, Saddam. This is a defining moment in your life. You will talk about this on the internet for days to come. You are one of the very few, one of the elite.
You jeer, but most people have never built a computer, will never build one, and would have absolutely no idea how to go about building one. Online communities simply aren't a representative sample of the population. If they were, then Rush would be the biggest band in the world, Ron Paul would be the president, major religions would have no more influence or notability than any nut claiming to talk to God, and Internet Explorer would have been laughed out of existence a long time ago. PC gamers/builders/enthusiasts are a very vocal minority, but a minority nevertheless.
And that's not a bad thing! Really, a lot of you guys just seem to take your skills and expertise on the subject for granted, and downplay it as basic common knowledge that everyone ought to have. You're doing yourselves a real disservice there. You've found something that you're good at, so take pride in it. Don't write it off as if it's nothing. Treasure our different strengths and weaknesses, and we will be one step closer to world peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w3Lm_gu-ZY
Anyone can learn to build a PC, just like anyone can learn to drive a car. Let's face it, the average person regardless of prior experience is going to manage to build a computer faster than you.
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ITT: Saddam boasts about building a working computer only weeks after receiving the parts.
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Anyone can learn to build a PC, just like anyone can learn to drive a car. Let's face it, the average person regardless of prior experience is going to manage to build a computer faster than you.
Irrelephant.
ITT: Saddam boasts about building a working computer only weeks after receiving the parts.
Yes.
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Have you downloaded all the appropriate drivers for your PC yet, Saddamnit?
edit: You might want to consider deleting System 32. Your computer will run faster without it.
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Sadman's quest has inspired to take up my own journey. I ordered everything Friday for a new system build. Only a mid range system, since I don't actually have a need for another workstation.
By next weekend, I will show everyone how to not Sadman.
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Saddam, did you get an OS installed yet, or is that next month's project?
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Oh, nevermind, Sadman's extremely angry post disappeared.
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Oh, nevermind, Sadman's extremely angry post disappeared.
Yes, it was a bit overly mean.
Saddam, did you get an OS installed yet, or is that next month's project?
Did this sound witty and clever to you in your head? Seriously, I'm beginning to think that you are the markjo of insults.
And yes, I did.
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>literally makes the same post again
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ITT: Saddam gets offended by serious questions.
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>literally makes the same post again
No, in my first post I called him an idiot; in my next, I likened him to markjo. There is a difference!
ITT: Saddam gets offended by serious questions.
http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/warriorshtm/bigdogmetoo.htm
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No really, my post about being one of the elite was serious and you berated me. Your sarcasm detector is seriously malfunctioning.
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I have yet to figure out why sadaam is so touchy about this subject...
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I have yet to figure out why sadaam is so touchy about this subject...
My working theory is that he's making this whole thing up. He didn't build a computer. He's been sitting on his butt playing AssCreed all day, and is making things up on the internet. This whole "I'm mad about these posts" thing is just to make it look more genuine.
Has anyone seen a picture of Saddam next to his newly built PC? :-\
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Has anyone seen a picture of Saddam next to his newly built PC? :-\
I think some kind of zetetic evidence is required at this point.
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You got me.
/exposed
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Note how he did not post a picture of himself next to his newly built PC.
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I have yet to figure out why sadaam is so touchy about this subject...
Saddam has a lot pride and takes flippant remarks very personally.
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Sadman's quest has inspired to take up my own journey. I ordered everything Friday for a new system build. Only a mid range system, since I don't actually have a need for another workstation.
By next weekend, I will show everyone how to not Sadman.
You're going to show us how to read a Lego instruction booklet? I can't wait Mr. Xeon.
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Sadman's quest has inspired to take up my own journey. I ordered everything Friday for a new system build. Only a mid range system, since I don't actually have a need for another workstation.
By next weekend, I will show everyone how to not Sadman.
You're going to show us how to read a Lego instruction booklet? I can't wait Mr. Xeon.
omg so witty and clever
I actually am just going to build it, snap a couple of photos, and donate it.
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(http://i.imgur.com/O12pmPL.jpg)
The grainy tension.
Mission accomplished.
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Shopped. Can tell from the pixels, etc
Also, clean your desk. >:|
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You really need a better camera.
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Saddam has mastered the art of making a picture look like it was taken decades ago.
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He should build a new camera next.
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Shopped. Can tell from the pixels, etc
Also, clean your desk. >:|
His desk is clean as far as I can tell.
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Saddam, how do you type with boxing gloves on?
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He doesn't use them to type...
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He doesn't use them to type...
(https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/BgtufQNvKEKwxAig6xRF7A--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NDAwO3E9OTU7dz00Mzg-/http://www.lolroflmao.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/o-rly.jpg)
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No really, what the hell is going on with that desk.
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???
There's some things on it. Desks have things on them.
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Those are not boxing gloves.
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It's a stuffed snowman toy in a Yuletide outfit. We use it as a decoration around Christmas. I'm not sure why it's on my desk.
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Why did you not take a picture with the monitor on so we could all rest assured that it actually works?
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I was going to, but the glare from the monitor screwed everything up.
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Why did you not take a picture with the monitor on so we could all rest assured that it actually works?
This is a very good point. How do we know that is a working computer pictured in your picture? New pics are necessary to confirm the veracity of your claims.
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I feel very powerful. I can play Oblivion at 60 fps!
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I feel very powerful. I can play Oblivion at 60 fps!
That was... something you couldn't do before?... :-\
Anyway:
>be a saddam
>buy computer twice as powerful as PS4
>play oblivion
>wow
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His laptop couldn't run Skyrim at all, so not being able to play Oblivion at 60 fps on it doesn't surprise me. He probably played TESO with the lowest setting.
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I feel very powerful. I can play Oblivion at 60 fps!
That was... something you couldn't do before?... :-\
I actually had to tone the graphics down when I was on my laptop.
His laptop couldn't run Skyrim at all, so not being able to play Oblivion at 60 fps on it doesn't surprise me. He probably played TESO with the lowest setting.
The medium setting.
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Oblivion on PC is potentially the best game ever made.
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If all faces are replaced and every piece of dialogue re-recorded, then perhaps.
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If all faces are replaced and every piece of dialogue re-recorded, then perhaps.
Easily done with mods.
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The problem is that there aren't really any good ones. Oblivion Character Overhaul is decent, but far from great, and it doesn't fix the issue with the elves looking like pointy-eared humans (which they shouldn't). And I haven't seen a single mod with professionally re-recoded dialogues.
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The problem is that there aren't really any good ones. Oblivion Character Overhaul is decent, but far from great, and it doesn't fix the issue with the elves looking like pointy-eared humans (which they shouldn't). And I haven't seen a single mod with professionally re-recoded dialogues.
I am mostly in agreement with you. That's why I said potentially. The modding community probably doesn't have the resources to hire professional voice actors, but I don't see why someone hasn't done it themselves. I don't really have a problem with the voices in Oblivion to begin with, but there is a lot of recycled dialog that gets noticeable.
I mostly used the overhaul mod, some basic gameplay ones, misc atmosphere/weather mods, and some others when I played. I always tried to stay away from the mods that added new quests though, because the lack or voice acting in all of them kind of ruins immersion for me since everyone else in the game has spoken dialog. I like consistency I guess.
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That's why I said potentially.
You didn't say potentially.
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That's why I said potentially.
You didn't say potentially.
Oblivion on PC is potentially the best game ever made.
???
Well I typed it.
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Well Oblivion is bad.
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Well Oblivion is bad.
At least it is better than Morrowang.
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Hey, did you know that we have a separate thread for this topic?
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Hey, did you know that we have a separate thread for this topic?
No. Why do you ask?
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There's nothing better than traipsing through the forests of Skyrim in the middle of the night with all the lights turned off.