*

Offline Rushy

  • Planar Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 8569
    • View Profile
Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2014, 02:29:29 PM »
That looks like an M240.  I used to carry one.  Sucks to carry one all day, but people do it all the time.

Goddammit jora you're supposed to be helping.

*

Offline jroa

  • *
  • Posts: 3094
  • Kentucky Gentleman
    • View Profile
Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2014, 02:53:21 PM »
You should have posted a picture of one of these.



That is man portable, but requires a three man team. 

Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2014, 04:44:10 PM »
Without a car this gun would be useless, it's too heavy. Good thing this car is here to kill people.

Uh huh. That makes the gun useless not the car. The car is not designed to kill people.

*

Offline Rushy

  • Planar Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 8569
    • View Profile
Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2014, 06:23:08 PM »
Uh huh. That makes the gun useless not the car. The car is not designed to kill people.

Using this definition, bullets are designed to kill people, not guns. The end does not discard the means.

Ghost of V

Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2014, 06:33:28 PM »
Bullets are made for use in guns. Therefore, guns are made to kill things by proxy.

Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2014, 07:42:56 PM »
Using this definition, bullets are designed to kill people, not guns. The end does not discard the means.

Bullets are designed to kill people. Guns are designed to fire bullets. The gun is made to ease the transition of bullet from magazine to brain. A gun that cannot be used to kill people is often a useless gun (tranquillizer guns, starter pistols, veterinary guns etc aside). The gun is (in the general sense) designed to kill people.

The car is not designed to kill people. It is incidental that, post design, post production, a gun can be strapped to a car.

*

Offline markjo

  • *
  • Posts: 7849
  • Zetetic Council runner-up
    • View Profile
Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2014, 08:05:47 PM »
Bullets are designed to kill people.
No.  Bullets are designed to inflict damage on a target.  That target need not be human.
Abandon hope all ye who press enter here.

Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.

Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. -- Charles Darwin

If you can't demonstrate it, then you shouldn't believe it.

*

Offline beardo

  • *
  • Posts: 5230
    • View Profile
Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2014, 06:02:29 AM »
You can beat a person to death with a gun.
The Mastery.

*

Offline Rushy

  • Planar Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 8569
    • View Profile
Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2014, 03:54:25 PM »
You can beat a person to death with a gun.

I can beat a person to death with you. Ban all assault-beardos.

Bullets are made for use in guns. Therefore, guns are made to kill things by proxy.

Bullets just happen to go well with guns. I can easily fire a bullet without a gun.

Bullets are designed to kill people.

This is utterly incorrect. Bullets are designed to be shot at thin paper targets.