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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Dr Van Nostrand on Today at 12:22:13 PM »

It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

You know, Sam Bankman-Fried was a billionaire. Now he's in prison.

Trump inherited a vast fortune and it was all gone before he was 50 years old. By his sixties, he had so many bankruptcies that the American financial industry wouldn't do business with him anymore. He gets his credit from Europe and currently Deutsche Bank holds the 'pink slip' to Mar A Lago. 90% of the businesses with his name on it have failed. Let's not forget Trump’s $TRUMP token, down by 80%.

This patently false idea that Trump is some super savvy businessman is one of the myths that keeps him popular with his Appalachian, sub-normal supporters and the idiots that invest in his scams.

BTW: Billionaires fail all the time.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/eight-billionaires-from-around-the-world-who-have-gone-broke/ar-AA1Edo8j

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on Today at 08:40:45 AM »

It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

His father?  Yes.
But you'd be amazed how far you can get riding on someone else's coat tails.

Indeed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-final-2016-presidential-debate/fact-check-trumps-claim-that-he-built-his-company-with-1-million-loan/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 06:15:45 AM »

It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

His father?  Yes.
But you'd be amazed how far you can get riding on someone else's coat tails.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Tom Bishop on Today at 04:13:43 AM »

It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by honk on July 01, 2025, 08:52:35 PM »

Trump has never been a good businessman. He just played one on TV. It really can't be overstated how integral The Apprentice and its false portrayal of Trump as this universally-respected titan of commerce and icon of success was to the rehabilitation of Trump's public image. In the eighties and nineties, everyone knew that Trump was a joke. And nothing changed about him - they just made a TV show saying no, Trump is actually awesome, and inexplicably, tens of millions of Americans believed them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on July 01, 2025, 06:00:49 PM »

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that whoever bought a copy of The Art Of The Deal should demand a refund?

He didn’t even write it.
Fairly likely he’s never read it.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by markjo on July 01, 2025, 05:16:36 PM »

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that whoever bought a copy of The Art Of The Deal should demand a refund?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on July 01, 2025, 02:45:18 PM »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-u-could-send-165839463.html

So...
Trump has given up on getting 90 deals. (Did he get any?)

And is just gonna write letters to Mr. Country and tell them what he decided.  No negotiation needed.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing

« Last post by markjo on June 30, 2025, 01:04:31 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on June 29, 2025, 08:19:46 AM »

Sounds like obliterate means “cause a few months delay”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79qeqg89g2o

Ha!  The most successful military strikes in history?  By what fucking measure?  Because the dropping of the two atomic bombs, which made Japan surrender, was the most successful strikes in history.

Two bombs ended a war.