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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Elon musk
« on: April 19, 2019, 02:17:51 AM »
It begs the question, if, let's say, Virgin Galactic starts sending the the few hundred already booked passengers up above the Karman line with the 5 minutes of weightlessness and a view of the the "curve" as promised, would that make a difference in FE belief? Or would my original response still hold true?
Am I one of the few hundred of people?

I've been hearing about moon bases and robot butlers too.
Just because not every future prediction comes true, that doesn't mean it's a smoking gun of a big conspiracy about space travel or robots or whatever.
Some problems just proved harder to solve than others.
How often do you see stories about how we'll be zipping across the Atlantic in a couple of hours? Hasn't happened, has it? Does that mean transatlantic travel is a hoax?
I'm not really sure how any of this is relevant to Elon Musk lying about space travel. Please stay on topic.

I would say we are absolutely the closest ever in human history to civilian flight into space. Especially with Elon musks latest achievements with falcon heavy and the current rapid development of star ship. Within a decade I would say civilians will be launched.
And in a decade we'll only be a decade away.

Except that a number of (very rich) civilians have already traveled in space.

Here's where you can book your own space adventure:
Less than a dozen claims of success on that wikipedia page, and the other link requires they vet you and doesn't even name a price. So no, I can not book a space adventure. Only the elite can see behind the curtain. I promise in the future we'll let everyone see behind the curtain. Just not yet. But trust us on what we say is behind the curtain.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 19, 2019, 02:06:13 AM »
Mueller said, both before and in the report, that he doesn't believe the DoJ can charge a sitting president. The report explicitly says it does not exonerate Trump, nor does it say he is clear of obstruction of justice. It's just that Congress - not the DoJ - would be the ones that bring up charges of impeachment.

A Republican investigator confirmed numerous facts that have been in dispute, such as Trump trying to impede the investigation and Russia interfering in the US election on a massive and systemic scale with coordination of members of the Trump campaign. I'm not sure how you're spinning this into a good thing for Trump.

Why would you want to see a saggy ball sack and a half limp dick being jerked off by some emaciated 50 year old asian that has leather for skin?
Welcome to the United Snakes
Land of the thief, home of the slave
Grand imperial guard where the dollar is sacred and power is God

If you're a billionaire, you're basically detached from your actions. You can sexually assault people, murder people, ruin lives, destroy families. At worse, you may have to cut a check to sweep it under the rug, but it's pretty obvious the rich typically don't face the same consequences as everyone else.

Robert Kraft having a tape of him publicly being jerked off is the closest thing to justice a billionaire has ever seen.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: Elon musk
« on: April 18, 2019, 01:50:18 AM »
Surely once space x starts launching regular old civilians this entire concept will be finished and the flat earth will finally be put to rest.
I've been hearing we are very close to civilian space travel for nearly my entire life. And yet, it never materializes. Just because knockoff Tony Stark is the latest conman to promise it doesn't make me any more convinced.

Science & Alternative Science / Re: Elon Musk
« on: April 04, 2019, 05:57:32 PM »
So some predictions for the future weren't as easy to deliver.
So far, Elon Musk has delivered Paypal, which sucks, and a car that's really expensive.

Why is he a meme again? Is it just because he shitposts on twitter?

How does one get around this?
By not deliberately misunderstanding Flat Earth Theory and physics.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Satellite Dishes
« on: March 28, 2019, 02:17:35 AM »
Just wondering if between us as we have members all round the globe (haha, lol, sorry Pete) on here, we could take measurements and see which model they fit best.
This is not a well designed test. We can't prove the dishes are all pointed at the same object. Regardless of the shape of the earth, it's fairly unlikely we're using the same satellite. We also can't independently verify the information, making it hardly a rigorous and repeatable test.

This is, however, a great way to track the personal information, including physical location, of Flat Earthers.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: March 25, 2019, 05:00:00 AM »
March Madness has had a lot of great games already this year. First time watching college basketball and it's a lot of fun, way better than the NBA.

That said, the biggest sporting event of the year is about a month away. The NFL draft is almost here! Here's my (not very) hot takes on how this draft will shake down. I'll include a take for some of the team's FES roots for.

Nick Bosa (EDGE) is going first overall.
Kyler Murray (QB) isn't getting drafted in the first 20 picks.
DK Metcalf (WR) will have less than a thousand career receiving yards.
The Patriots are taking an Iowa TE. Either one, but they're replacing Gronk with a corn-fed monster.
First five players off the board, in no particular order, are Bosa, Josh Allen (EDGE), Quinnen Williams (DT), Dwayne Haskins (QB), and Jonah Williams (T)
The 49'ers are taking their favorite of the big three defensive prospects. I'd guess Quinnen Williams.
Only the Raiders are trading out of the top five.
The Vikings will go offensive lineman the first two rounds. I hope.
Seahawks trade out of the first round and draft a bunch of weird prospects, and find an all-pro that no one is talking about.
Chiefs don't pick an offensive player in the first three rounds. All defense.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« on: March 19, 2019, 01:39:30 AM »
Apex Legends is lit. Playing it on PS4. Hit me up if you want to beat up on 12 year olds together.

As far as the game, it's the best Battle Royale made so far by a pretty big margin imo. Well made, minimal bugs, relatively stable. Considering every other game in this genre is ass it's a lot of fun.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bernie 2020
« on: March 06, 2019, 05:51:11 PM »
This pledge is good for Bernie.

Let’s assume the Earth is flat.

Now, let’s indulge in a thought experiment.

What if the Earth was round?
Do I understand this correctly? You want the Flat Earth Society members to describe to you Round Earth Theory?

Flat Earth Community / Re: Earth seem from 1 million miles.
« on: February 27, 2019, 11:05:46 PM »
NASA has done much better work.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yang 2020
« on: February 27, 2019, 10:40:07 PM »
Universal Basic Income is a fantastic idea. I don't think anyone can state for sure what will happen, but it has so much enormous potential. I can't wait for someone to give it a fair test so that we at least have a case study for considering it further.

Should the entirety of the United States jump into at once? No, we can probably just use that money towards something with a more certain return on investment, like infrastructure or national healthcare or schools or some shit.

So... I see a never expiring ban on people who break rule 8. yet, what is rule 8, so I don't break it...
8. Keep alternate accounts within reason

We will be taking a very relaxed policy towards alternate accounts ("alts"), provided that people do not force us to take a stricter stance by abusing this policy. Alts are allowed, and will be permitted free reign across all fora, provided that they follow the rules for the forum they are posting in. FES has a history of alts that contribute to discussions in addition to the usual complement of spamming and trolling alts, and it would be a shame to try to restrict this.

There are two exceptions to this policy: one, an alt that is used for the purpose of furthering a main or another alt's argument without itself contributing a unique point of view on the situation ("sockpuppetting") will be immediately banned; two, an alt that is intended to impersonate a member either here or on the old FES will be immediately banned, and deleted if it is occupying the username of an old FES member, as otherwise it would bar them from registering here.

An alt breaking any rule that would ordinarily result in a warning can (at moderator discretion) be handled by immediately banning the alt account, and instead warning the main account of the person controlling it.

It's harder to find the rules than it needs to be. May I suggest stickying them at the top of every upper-fora so that they're easier to find?

In other news, politicians used their power for their own gain, and its cold in Canada.  Who cares if someone hired a hooker?
To be fair, this was less hiring a hooker and more a $60 rub and tug by a likely victim of human trafficking.

I mean, the fact that a billionaire would cheap out so much on his handjobs is a good enough story on it's own.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: On the Origin of Species
« on: February 23, 2019, 03:49:22 PM »
My family do not fraternise with nig nogs. No great great ... add as many as you like ... grandmother of mine would ever fall for a bouncy porch monkey sucking air through his teeth.   >o<

My blood is the gold standard of Aryanism.
I bet you could make a black friend if you just put yourself out there.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 28, 2019, 11:34:29 PM »
Well, it appears I ran away from Rushy like the coward I am.

It's the only solution that stops foot traffic aside from something like a minefield or a trench. One of those things would cause an international crisis and the other is just plain silly. We could always take the Israeli route, since they found out shooting on sight does wonders for deterring border jumpers. You also need to think about the future. What happens if climate change really does cause Central America to collapse into chaos? We're going to need a lot more than just a wall, but saying the wall won't help at all is nonsense. It's a practical solution and has been throughout human history. Walls aren't 100% effective, but they're not 0% effective.
I'm sure we're both creative enough to think of a half-dozen solutions that are at least as practical as a giant wall. Like moats, or a team of patrols with satellite observers. Walls didn't do shit to stop the Mongols, and in an age of air travel, sea travel, and ladders, it won't stop any significant amount now. At a minimum, I think we can find common ground that the cost of the wall (Numbers vary, but at least in the billions for constructions and hundreds of millions annually to maintain) and a month of a federal government shutdown probably wasn't worth what we'd get out of it if we even built it. Which is looking unlikely.

We won't even touch the hypocrisy of a man who campaigned on Mexico building the wall now asking Americans to pay for it.

This is exactly the problem. You've become convinced it's a race issue because some subset of people might actually have that belief. That is pointless generalization and honestly I thought someone like you wouldn't seriously believe it applies widely to the entire problem. It's a childish oversimplification. It's the equivalent of me saying that anyone against the wall is simply a drug addict that is scared their supplies might get interrupted, which would probably describe a lot of the people against it. Maybe everyone against the wall really is trying to import voters, or maybe they're all people who are avid sex traffickers. Does that make these a valid argument? No, because I think the issue a lot more complicated than just one subset of people with irrational beliefs.
I'd find this argument more compelling if we ever talked about border security with Canada, where it's mostly white people. Terrorists and drugs come from up north as well, including famously the 9/11 hijackers. If trafficking was the real focus, we'd worry about both borders. If immigration is the issue, we'd not be talking about the wall because most undocumented immigrants don't come from foot traffic across the border. There are racists and xenophobes that get to vote same as everyone else, and I have a feeling they've gone overwhelmingly to one guy.

Not that this is the focus on why a wall is a bad idea. It's just such a bad idea that I'd argue the majority of people supporting it are either daft, or pretending to be daft because they don't like brown people.

I doubt you even live in the US.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched
« on: January 10, 2019, 01:09:23 AM »
Letterkenny (Hulu in US, Crave in Canada, don't know about lesser nations) is the best comedy out there.

If you haven't watched it yet, pitter patter let's get at 'er.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 10, 2019, 12:21:10 AM »
Building a wall isn't a practical solution. It's a non-solution for a non-existent problem.

I'll not even touch the whole "colorblind" shtick you're trying for. If you want to pretend there's no racist or xenophobic elements embedded in this topic I have no desire to dig your head out of the ground.

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