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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth maps?
« on: January 11, 2022, 12:09:28 PM »
I mean exactly what I wrote.

Do you have an answer or not?
I don't think I understand the question. In what way is there no agreed map of the earth?
By "map" here, I don't mean a flat piece of paper. I mean it in the more general sense that the earth has been mapped - we know the size and shapes of land masses and the distances between places.
In what way do you think any of that is in dispute? We have a whole global transport system and technologies like GPS which rely on this being the case.
I understand your need to firmly cling to the concept: Humanity has a grip on the size and shape of land masses and the distances between places.

And for most places we do; however, the "go to" argument for many RE-adherents here is this: Why the FE map has a problem with the size of Australia, conveniently ignoring, for instance, the problem with the size of Greenland AND Africa on the Mercator.

The fact of the matter is, given the many imperfections of the land (mountains, valleys, hills, and dales, etc.) the true flat earth plane could be relegated to a sphere of the appropriate size accounting for these imperfections and not indicative of its true shape.

That is how the globe came to be.
You get bullshit when you try to paint reality (i.e., flat earth) in unreal terms (i.e., spherical)

Actually, you get bullshit when you try to paint flat earth into real tearms(sic).  This is why there is no agreed upon FE map.  IF the earth were flat, creating a map of said earth would be an incredibly simple task with modern technology.  It actually would have been an incredibly simple task with less than modern technology.
When you have an agreed upon RE map, then feel free to come back and tell us how "easy," it is.

Jesus, you write as if you are a world renown cartographer or something.

You have no clue about how easy something would be. If you did, then you would have used an "easy," spell check to correct your post.

I'll give you the something (maybe you were a boy scout and took the map reading badge course, who knows), but I will not concede the world-renown cartographer.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth maps?
« on: January 11, 2022, 11:59:40 AM »
... why are you convinced about RE when there is no agreed upon map?

There is an agreed-upon map.
Patently untrue.
If there were not, international travellers would be getting lost, every day. The fact that they all get to their destinations, whether by international flight, ocean voyage, by train or by motor vehicle, is the proof the map is agreed.
Utterly ridiculous.

There is a recommended route to many destinations, but no agreed upon map, even for RE.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth maps?
« on: January 04, 2022, 03:13:51 PM »
Out of interest, why are you convinced about FE when there is no agreed upon map?
Out of interest, why are you convinced about RE when there is no agreed upon map?
Do you mean there are lots of different projections?
No.

I mean exactly what I wrote.

Do you have an answer or not?
If so then there are indeed different maps which depict the whole earth in different ways.
And that's because the earth isn't flat. So any map of the earth has to project reality - the surface of a (rough) sphere - onto a flat plane. In doing so some accuracy is lost because geometry. So different projections do this in different ways, each has its own strengths and weaknesses.

But were the earth flat there would be no problem. The earth is flat, maps are flat, the only issue is therefore scale. It should be possible to make a map which accurately represents the whole earth, sizes and shapes of land masses should be accurate as should the distances between them and between places in the land masses. No such map exists. I'll leave as an exercise for the reader to consider why that might be...
Nice way to state the simplest argument.

You get bullshit when you try to paint reality (i.e., flat earth) in unreal terms (i.e., spherical)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 04, 2022, 03:01:42 PM »
Wow, you were were thrice jabbed with the vaccine and still got the Covid!?!?
Twice.

And yes, the vaccine doesn't put a magic forcefield around you and stop you getting infected. What it does do is prepare your body so that if you do get infected the symptoms are typically milder. Which is exactly what happened. My wife and myself both got it over Christmas and it's been little more than a cold. The vaccine did it's job. Good old science, eh?
Twice jabbed then.

I am unvaccinated in regard to Covid, as are many others in my circle, and they were as unfortunate as you, having the nerve to get the Covid  too.

Surprisingly, their symptoms were also very mild.

SHOCKING!!!

It is as if NOT BEING VACCINATED results in having the EXACT SAME SYMPTOMS as BEING VACCINATED!!!

Whoda thunk!?!?

Sometimes.
Other times they die.
Really?

You have some actual numbers of omicron infections resulting in the death of a person who was unvaccinated?
I've thought about it
This seems unlikely.
Quote
and a deadly virus needs to kill people.
It doesn't need to kill everyone to be considered deadly. No-one has ever claimed Covid has a 100% kill rate.

By the way, I tested positive last Thursday. The missus tested positive on Christmas Day, with outstanding comic timing. I tested negative then but have now succumbed.
For me it's just been a bit of a cold. So maybe you're a bit of a wimp?
Wow, you were were thrice jabbed with the vaccine and still got the Covid!?!?

That's almost exactly what the "unenlightened," have been saying all along, isn't it? That everyone would eventually get the virus? Maybe even two, three, or four times in their life? Because, surprise(!!!!) that is the NATURE of respiratory infections?


They key is 'bit of a cold'.
The vaccine isn't going to prevent everyone from getting infected.  Thats impossible.  Instead, it prevents you from having the full symptoms if any at all.
Which is the point since its the people with severe symptoms that usually die.
"bit of a cold."

Sounds like the symptoms of omicron in UNVACCINATED individuals.
Maybe in some, but not all.
Actually, omicron presents with the symptoms of a cold even in unvaccinated individuals.

You do know what the symptoms of a cold are, correct?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth maps?
« on: January 04, 2022, 12:41:20 PM »
Out of interest, why are you convinced about FE when there is no agreed upon map?
Out of interest, why are you convinced about RE when there is no agreed upon map?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 04, 2022, 12:12:58 PM »
Wow, you were were thrice jabbed with the vaccine and still got the Covid!?!?
Twice.

And yes, the vaccine doesn't put a magic forcefield around you and stop you getting infected. What it does do is prepare your body so that if you do get infected the symptoms are typically milder. Which is exactly what happened. My wife and myself both got it over Christmas and it's been little more than a cold. The vaccine did it's job. Good old science, eh?
Twice jabbed then.

I am unvaccinated in regard to Covid, as are many others in my circle, and they were as unfortunate as you, having the nerve to get the Covid  too.

Surprisingly, their symptoms were also very mild.

SHOCKING!!!

It is as if NOT BEING VACCINATED results in having the EXACT SAME SYMPTOMS as BEING VACCINATED!!!

Whoda thunk!?!?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 04, 2022, 11:59:33 AM »
I've thought about it
This seems unlikely.
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and a deadly virus needs to kill people.
It doesn't need to kill everyone to be considered deadly. No-one has ever claimed Covid has a 100% kill rate.

By the way, I tested positive last Thursday. The missus tested positive on Christmas Day, with outstanding comic timing. I tested negative then but have now succumbed.
For me it's just been a bit of a cold. So maybe you're a bit of a wimp?
Wow, you were were thrice jabbed with the vaccine and still got the Covid!?!?

That's almost exactly what the "unenlightened," have been saying all along, isn't it? That everyone would eventually get the virus? Maybe even two, three, or four times in their life? Because, surprise(!!!!) that is the NATURE of respiratory infections?


They key is 'bit of a cold'.
The vaccine isn't going to prevent everyone from getting infected.  Thats impossible.  Instead, it prevents you from having the full symptoms if any at all.
Which is the point since its the people with severe symptoms that usually die.
"bit of a cold."

Sounds like the symptoms of omicron in UNVACCINATED individuals.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 04, 2022, 11:57:52 AM »
If it kills one single person who may be vulnerable, is that enough to consider it deadly?
No.
But the mortality rate of Covid - and the chances of it requiring hospitalisation - is high enough
No, it isn't.

And it never will be.

Never had a chance to be.

It is like omicron = moronic when it comes to analysis of the mortality rates and hospitalization rates as all those numbers were drastically inflated due to government funding rewarding the overreporting.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 04, 2022, 11:52:54 AM »
I've thought about it
This seems unlikely.
Quote
and a deadly virus needs to kill people.
It doesn't need to kill everyone to be considered deadly. No-one has ever claimed Covid has a 100% kill rate.

By the way, I tested positive last Thursday. The missus tested positive on Christmas Day, with outstanding comic timing. I tested negative then but have now succumbed.
For me it's just been a bit of a cold. So maybe you're a bit of a wimp?
Wow, you were were thrice jabbed with the vaccine and still got the Covid!?!?

That's almost exactly what the "unenlightened," have been saying all along, isn't it? That everyone would eventually get the virus? Maybe even two, three, or four times in their life? Because, surprise(!!!!) that is the NATURE of respiratory infections?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 03, 2022, 08:30:34 PM »
Fauci claims that omicron breakthrough infections among the vaccinated are so severe, it is best for vaccinated people to only hang out with vaccinated people (who can spread the virus regardless).

"The first time in history the ineffectiveness of a medicine is blamed on those who haven't taken it." - Dr. Robert Malone

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 11:14:43 AM »
You sound triggered. Why are you so invested in twisting this into a huge embarrassment for Biden? Why can't you just accept that the only people who think that "Let's go Brandon" is a sick burn are the conservatives who say it? Nobody else takes it seriously. Not leftists, not liberals, and not Biden.
Starting with the reporter who claimed the crowd was shouting, "Let’s Go Brandon!" rather than "Fuck Joe Biden!", the ones who take it seriously are indeed leftists and liberals.

Biden is incapable of taking anything seriously. He is demented and doesn't even know the time of day.

Jill, in between her daily dp sessions with SS agents, takes it seriously. That's why she hung her head in shame and utter embarrassment after his response. She finds the addled fuck repulsive and disgusting.

You and Tom have a very strange fixation on Jill Biden.
Especially considering he seems to have intimate knowledge of her sex life. 
You think he saw some photoshopped porn and thinks its real?  That maybe his browser history is filled with democrat wives having sex because thats what gets him off?


Also, considering Jill Biden has a doctorate and neither Tom nor Action do... The 'dumb' comments really seem misplaced.  Almost like they're projecting their own inadequicies onto other people....
Sorry, I didn't catch that photoshopped porn flick. If you know where I can get a copy, fill me in, okay?

I just figured you and Rama might be keeping Joe's legs comfortable with the daily rub downs, so she could turn to the SS agents for necessary physical comfort, kinda like Jackie did.

I never called Jill dumb. In fact, she is the only one in that family smart enough to know when the fuck face shows his senility.

Well, perhaps that isn't correct. The kids clearly know the old fuck is senile and try to take advantage of it. Just not smart enough to do it.

Jill probably has an high EQ and isn't afraid to show public shame and embarrassment in front of the whole world.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 11:09:51 AM »
You sound triggered. Why are you so invested in twisting this into a huge embarrassment for Biden? Why can't you just accept that the only people who think that "Let's go Brandon" is a sick burn are the conservatives who say it? Nobody else takes it seriously. Not leftists, not liberals, and not Biden.
Starting with the reporter who claimed the crowd was shouting, "Let’s Go Brandon!" rather than "Fuck Joe Biden!", the ones who take it seriously are indeed leftists and liberals.

Biden is incapable of taking anything seriously. He is demented and doesn't even know the time of day.

Jill, in between her daily dp sessions with SS agents, takes it seriously. That's why she hung her head in shame and utter embarrassment after his response. She finds the addled fuck repulsive and disgusting.

You and Tom have a very strange fixation on Jill Biden.
Pointing out her shame and embarrassment exhibited for all to see does not constitute strange fixation.

But nice try.

LET'S GO BRANDON!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 10:08:15 AM »
You sound triggered. Why are you so invested in twisting this into a huge embarrassment for Biden? Why can't you just accept that the only people who think that "Let's go Brandon" is a sick burn are the conservatives who say it? Nobody else takes it seriously. Not leftists, not liberals, and not Biden.
Starting with the reporter who claimed the crowd was shouting, "Let’s Go Brandon!" rather than "Fuck Joe Biden!", the ones who take it seriously are indeed leftists and liberals.

Biden is incapable of taking anything seriously. He is demented and doesn't even know the time of day.

Jill, in between her daily dp sessions with SS agents, takes it seriously. That's why she hung her head in shame and utter embarrassment after his response. She finds the addled fuck repulsive and disgusting.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 02:26:28 AM »
Conservatives are unusually triggered over this. Even the guy who made this dumb remark to Biden is trying to pull it back. I think Biden made the best possible response to make them look like asses.
Maybe you should call Joe, tell him to divorce his dumb ass wife, marry him, and when he pulls another response like this from his ass (you know, perhaps when he is participating in another press conference he isn't supposed to be having), you will be sitting right beside him, smiling gleefully at his impromptu response, instead of hanging your head in shame and embarrassment like that idiot Jill.

It's just that there seems to be a lot of people who are reacting very emotionally that Biden just sort of brushed this off.
Your assertion that Biden brushed it off is betrayed by the blonde sitting to the right of Biden in the video. She knows him better than you, I would wager (although I cannot be sure, as you might be intimate in some form or fashion with the sick bastard) and she hangs her head in shame and embarrassment at his response.
I'm not invested in any sort of goal of "owning" a particular group.  There's a lot of legitimate criticism that can be leveled at Biden but instead of doing any of that he just repeated some juvenile chant that imbeciles like to chant at NASCAR. 

I think this Jared Schmeck was expecting Biden to have a strong reaction over it and when he more or less ignored it then it just made Jared embarrassed.  And I think a lot of conservatives are feeling that embarrassment too.
The phrase, "Ignoring it," must mean something totally different in Utah than the rest of civilized society. Perhaps it is all that funky diaper wearing going on well after being potty trained, giving rise to such a unique defining of the term.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 01:43:36 AM »
Conservatives are unusually triggered over this. Even the guy who made this dumb remark to Biden is trying to pull it back. I think Biden made the best possible response to make them look like asses.
Maybe you should call Joe, tell him to divorce his embarassed and ashamed wife, marry him, and when he pulls another response like this from his ass (you know, perhaps when he is participating in another press conference he isn't supposed to be having), you will be sitting right beside him, smiling gleefully at his impromptu response, instead of hanging your head in shame and embarrassment like that Jill.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 27, 2021, 01:37:18 AM »
He ignored it
Imagine thinking that:

Repeating the line: "Let’s go Brandon!"

AND

Subsequently stating: "I agree!"

= Ignoring it.

LMMFAO!!!

I agree. Let's Go Brandon! As in 'Let's Go Brandon Brown, NASCAR driver. Congrats on your Talladega victory, I hope you win again.
So you were one of the thousands that day in attendance joining in with the crowd who were obviously shouting out, as the reporter pointed out, Let's Go Brandon?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 26, 2021, 11:11:54 PM »
He ignored it
Imagine thinking that:

Repeating the line: "Let’s go Brandon!"

AND

Subsequently stating: "I agree!"

= Ignoring it.

LMMFAO!!!

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Where's my signature?
« on: December 26, 2021, 10:35:17 PM »
All parsifal's fault I'm sure.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 25, 2021, 08:57:33 PM »
I admit Joe is suffering from Alzheimers and has no clue.

Why, because he casually shrugged off a silly insult instead of getting mad about it? Again, what should he have done instead? If he had started arguing with the guy, conservatives would be saying that he was ruining an event for children with inappropriate partisan bickering. If he had outright ignored the comment, conservatives would be saying the same thing they are now - that he was too addled to realize he was being insulted. I don't believe there's anything he could have said or done that you'd be willing to concede was a decent response.
It would have been decent to say, "Yeah. Whatever." Or, his good old, "C'mon man!?!?" That would have indicated a functioning brain.

But he doesn't have one.

His own wife, at this very moment, getting triple teamed by SS agents, hung her head, not in shame, not in pity, but in embarrassment, wondering how long she has to hang out with this sniffer of children.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 25, 2021, 02:46:59 PM »
Here is the actual video.



I admit Joe is suffering from Alzheimers and has no clue.

You guys got Trumpitis and it is the only thing you got. No salient or worthwhile ideas. Just the inability to PMS effectively. Getting old.

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