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Title: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 02, 2021, 03:17:21 PM
The qualifying rounds are well underway for most FIFA regions for next year's World Cup in Qatar. There are a few games I'm interested in next week:
Of all these teams, only Azerbaijan is already eliminated from qualifying, and the Republic of Ireland can only qualify through the playoffs.

I don't know whether I'll be able to watch all of these games online, but I'll try to if I can. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: ⚽ 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 02, 2021, 06:01:16 PM
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 02, 2021, 07:13:53 PM
  • October 09, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Andorra–England (Estadio Nacional de Andorra)
Thanks for reminding me to order an Andorran flag.

Also, learn to use the [time] tag. I edited your quote to give you an example. It will automatically convert to each user's configured timezone and format.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 02, 2021, 07:20:06 PM
  • October 09, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Andorra–England (Estadio Nacional de Andorra)
Thanks for reminding me to order an Andorran flag.

Also, learn to use the [time] tag. I edited your quote to give you an example. It will automatically convert to each user's configured time zone and format.
Your shitty [time] tag doesn't account for things like British Summer Time. So now it misinforms any UK users wanting to watch the games.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 02, 2021, 07:23:26 PM
Your shitty [time] tag doesn't account for things like British Summer Time. So now it misinforms any English users wanting to watch the game.
It accounts for whatever time offset you have configured in your user preferences. Not my fault if you haven't updated that for summer time.

(And yes, SMF should be able to handle summer time automatically, but if I had a euro for everything SMF should do but doesn't...)
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 02, 2021, 07:59:48 PM
I won't be using the flawed [time] tag. That is all.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 08, 2021, 08:37:51 PM
October 08, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Latvia–Netherlands (Riga)
Caught some of this. Latvia got told what's what in their home stadium, courtesy of the Dutch. Score was 0–1.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 09, 2021, 05:58:16 PM
  • October 09, 2021, 01:00:00 PM — Ethiopia–South Africa (Bahir Dar)
  • October 09, 2021, 04:00:00 PM — Azerbaijan–Republic of Ireland (Baku)
South Africa and RoI both did a smashing job today. Scores were 1–3 and 0–3, respectively. A most excellent day.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 09, 2021, 08:53:49 PM
Routine England win.

Andorra 0 - 5 England
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Pete Svarrior on October 09, 2021, 09:00:21 PM
Routine England win.

Andorra 0 - 5 England
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWSYOdxx8Tg
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 09, 2021, 09:13:29 PM
Routine England win.

Andorra 0 - 5 England
Indeed, the UK has disappointed on two fronts tonight.

Switzerland 2 – 0 Northern Ireland

It's a good thing Ireland gets two teams!
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 09, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Matches of interest for next week:
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 09, 2021, 09:59:21 PM
Matches of interest for next week:
  • October 11, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Netherlands–Gibraltar (Rotterdam)
  • October 12, 2021, 04:00:00 PM — South Africa–Ethiopia (Johannesburg)
  • October 12, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Bulgaria–Northern Ireland (Sofia)
Why do you have a weird obsession with Northern Ireland? Have you ever been? It's a dump.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 09, 2021, 10:04:44 PM
Why do you have a weird obsession with Northern Ireland? Have you ever been? It's a dump.
I don't have an obsession with it, it is simply part of Ireland. In the Rugby World Cup, Ireland has one team, which I would support. In the FIFA World Cup, they have two teams, so I support both.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 09, 2021, 10:06:01 PM
Why do you have a weird obsession with Northern Ireland? Have you ever been? It's a dump.
Ireland has one team, which I would support
Why?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 09, 2021, 10:10:20 PM
Why?
Because I have Irish heritage. Is it important? They're all just human beings wearing differently coloured shirts, at the end of the day.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 09, 2021, 10:17:42 PM
Why?
Because I have Irish heritage. Is it important? They're all just human beings wearing differently coloured shirts, at the end of the day.
Well you should have some reason for picking a random country. If I said "I support England and Lithuania" you'd ignore England and ask me why I supported Lithuania.

So what of this Irish heritage?

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_heritage
Cultural heritage is the legacy of tangible and intangible heritage assets of a group or society that is inherited from past generations. Not all legacies of past generations are "heritage", rather heritage is a product of selection by society.

Cultural heritage includes tangible culture (such as buildings, monuments, landscapes, books, works of art, and artifacts), intangible culture (such as folklore, traditions, language, and knowledge), and natural heritage (including culturally significant landscapes, and biodiversity).

From the list above, what have you got that is your Irish heritage?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 09, 2021, 10:24:57 PM
From the list above, what have you got that is your Irish heritage?
Is this really relevant in a thread about football? If you are truly interested in my life story, feel free to create a thread about it in CN or AR, where I can shitpost at you as much as you like.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on October 09, 2021, 10:27:37 PM
Why does the UK get to have 4 separate teams. I thought it was one nation? Or are they so desperate to have the World Cup in the aisles that they just forego their super important sovereignty in this case?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Pete Svarrior on October 09, 2021, 10:32:59 PM
Why does the UK get to have 4 separate teams. I thought it was one nation? Or are they so desperate to have the World Cup in the aisles that they just forego their super important sovereignty in this case?
This is a decent primer, though it's obviously pre-Brexit. Just ignore the bits about how the UK is in the EU for now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 09, 2021, 10:36:11 PM
Why does the UK get to have 4 separate teams. I thought it was one nation? Or are they so desperate to have the World Cup in the aisles that they just forego their super important sovereignty in this case?
Splitting the nation into 4 hardly helps us win World Cups. It means we have the England team base and any other players that might help ... Gareth Bale or Ryan Giggs for example, are not allowed to be included in a UK team.

We have 4 nations because we have separate leagues in those countries and so their respective football associations want the power and money (gate receipts, shirt sales etc) and so we can't unify the team.

Is this really relevant in a thread about football? If you are truly interested in my life story, feel free to create a thread about it in CN or AR, where I can shitpost at you as much as you like.
You profess to be a Northern Ireland fan. I ask the very reasonable question ... 'Why do you support a country you have no connection to?' and you refuse to furnish me with a proper answer. The proper answer is that you are appropriating other people's culture because your own is rather unimpressive. I'm an Englishman. That ranks very high on the list of 'do you have any culture?'. Like a fine wine ... I have provenance. You're trying to slap a champagne label onto a €2 bottle of plonk.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 09, 2021, 10:44:01 PM
You profess to be a Northern Ireland fan. I ask the very reasonable question ... 'Why do you support a country you have no connection to?' and you refuse to furnish me with a proper answer.
I gave you as much of an answer as is relevant in a thread not titled "xasop's family tree makes your look like a line of homeless people".

The proper answer is that you are appropriating other people's culture because your own is rather unimpressive. I'm an Englishman. That ranks very high on the list of 'do you have any culture?'. Like a fine wine ... I have provenance. You're trying to slap a champagne label onto a €2 bottle of plonk.
lol, get over yourself.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 11, 2021, 07:38:09 PM
October 11, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Netherlands–Gibraltar (Rotterdam)
It's half time and the Netherlands is already up 3–0. Why are the British so bad at football?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 11, 2021, 07:42:27 PM
October 11, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Netherlands–Gibraltar (Rotterdam)
It's half time and the Netherlands is already up 3–0. Why are the British so bad at football?

Yeah, alright Dutchaboo 🙄
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men?dateId=id13407
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 11, 2021, 07:43:58 PM

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men?dateId=id13407
I see nothing in here to contradict the fact that the UK is currently losing hard to the Dutch.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on October 11, 2021, 07:48:42 PM

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men?dateId=id13407
I see nothing in here to contradict the fact that the UK is currently losing hard to the Dutch.
Congrats on beating a remote outpost with a population of 33,000. I don't think England would roll over as easily for you.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 11, 2021, 07:55:22 PM
I don't think England would roll over as easily for you.
Perhaps, but they're not playing, so we'll never know. The Netherlands just scored a fourth goal, by the way.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 11, 2021, 08:39:44 PM
Netherlands 6 – 0 Gibraltar

Goed zo, jongens.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on October 11, 2021, 09:10:30 PM

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men?dateId=id13407
I see nothing in here to contradict the fact that the UK is currently losing hard to the Dutch.
Congrats on beating a remote outpost with a population of 33,000. I don't think England would roll over as easily for you.

England is pretty famous for rolling over in international play, to be fair.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on October 12, 2021, 09:45:35 AM
Netherlands 6 – 0 Gibraltar

Goed zo, jongens.
You get that you played a "country" so small that if Thork lived there he'd probably get a game, right?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 12, 2021, 07:53:29 PM
October 12, 2021, 04:00:00 PM — South Africa–Ethiopia (Johannesburg)
South Africa 1 – 0 Ethiopia

Another great day for football.

October 12, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Bulgaria–Northern Ireland (Sofia)
Northern Ireland is winning so far. Onto the 47th minute with the score at 0–1.

You get that you played a "country" so small that if Thork lived there he'd probably get a game, right?
It's cute how defensive ye British get when ye lose.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 12, 2021, 08:41:51 PM
October 12, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Bulgaria–Northern Ireland (Sofia)
Bulgaria 2 – 1 Northern Ireland

Imagine losing to a nation of anti-vaxxers. :'(

There'll be more games next month.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Pete Svarrior on October 13, 2021, 07:03:07 AM
I see nothing in here to contradict the fact that the UK is currently losing hard to the Dutch.
Considering that Gibraltar is not part of the UK, I don't think this "fact" was established in the first place.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Action80 on October 13, 2021, 05:34:06 PM
Why does the UK get to have 4 separate teams. I thought it was one nation? Or are they so desperate to have the World Cup in the aisles that they just forego their super important sovereignty in this case?
Maybe you should learn the definition of the word, "kingdom," and the definition of the word," nation," and come back then and only then.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on October 31, 2021, 11:40:48 PM
Games of interest this month:
Both Irish teams are already eliminated, but the really interesting matches should be Ghana–South Africa and Netherlands–Norway. Both of those are between the leading two teams in each group.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 11, 2021, 09:37:11 PM
November 11, 2021, 07:00:00 PM — South Africa–Zimbabwe (Johannesburg)
South Africa 1 – 0 Zimbabwe

An expected, but satisfying outcome.

November 11, 2021, 07:45:00 PM — Republic of Ireland–Portugal (Dublin)
They're onto the 92nd minute (in stoppage time) and still at 0–0. Someone fucking score already.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 11, 2021, 09:38:14 PM
0-0 after 92 minutes against Portugal is pretty good.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 11, 2021, 09:57:00 PM
Seems like they don't do extra time in these qualifiers, so:

Republic of Ireland 0 – 0 Portugal

A pretty good result for Ireland, considering their relative standing.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 12, 2021, 10:05:53 PM
England 5 - 0 Albania
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 12, 2021, 10:19:06 PM
England 5 - 0 Albania
Northern Ireland 1 – 0 Lithuania

A good day for the UK all round.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 12, 2021, 10:36:22 PM
England 5 - 0 Albania
Northern Ireland 1 – 0 Lithuania

A good day for the UK all round.
Indeed

Moldova 0 - 2 Scotland

Wales play tomorrow and I would expect them to beat Belarus for a clean sweep over European opposition.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 12, 2021, 11:00:21 PM
Wales play tomorrow and I would expect them to beat Belarus for a clean sweep over European opposition.
Northern Ireland is European, silly.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 13, 2021, 09:38:56 PM
Montenegro 2 – 2 Netherlands

Very well played by Montenegro. Hats off to them. It was 0–2 until around the 80th minute, but they really pulled out all the stops in those last few minutes to wrangle a draw.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 13, 2021, 09:56:54 PM
Montenegro 2 – 2 Netherlands
Bahahahaaha! 🤣



In other news, the Welsh didn't play as poorly as the Dutch.

Wales 5 - 1 Belarus
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 13, 2021, 10:11:09 PM
Montenegro 2 – 2 Netherlands
Bahahahaaha! 🤣
Agreed.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 13, 2021, 10:36:31 PM
Montenegro 2 – 2 Netherlands
Bahahahaaha! 🤣
Agreed.

Imagine having this attitude while supporting the Maple Leafs of international football.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 14, 2021, 10:29:33 AM
Montenegro 2 – 2 Netherlands
Bahahahaaha! 🤣
Agreed.

Imagine having this attitude while supporting the Maple Leafs of international football.
Imagine thinking that anyone outside North America or Canada gives a shit about sports in that region and thus would understand that reference.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 14, 2021, 12:17:21 PM
Montenegro 2 – 2 Netherlands
Bahahahaaha! 🤣
Agreed.

Imagine having this attitude while supporting the Maple Leafs of international football.
Imagine thinking that anyone outside North America or Canada gives a shit about sports in that region and thus would understand that reference.

Since you asked: The Toronto Maple Leafs haven’t won the Stanley Cup, the NHL’s championship, since 1967. They have only made the final once in that time. This is despite having every opportunity and means to put together fantastic teams. They have become synonymous with ineptitude and it is made worse by their blindly devoted fan base adoring them even though the franchise appears to be more concerned with making money.

It’s kind of exactly what England is like in international football.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Iceman on November 14, 2021, 12:21:07 PM
You're not wrong or anything, but, like, shut up. We've suffered enough.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 14, 2021, 12:25:35 PM
You're not wrong or anything, but, like, shut up. We've suffered enough.

No one is making you do this horrible thing to yourself.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 12:25:51 PM
They have become synonymous with ineptitude and it is made worse by their blindly devoted fan base adoring them
What are we supposed to do? Support France instead? What a silly comparison.

even though the franchise appears to be more concerned with making money.
England isn't a franchise and it doesn't make very much money when compared with clubs.

It’s kind of exactly what England is like in international football.
No. Its nothing like England. England are always one of the top teams in the world. There are 211 FIFA ranked teams right now. England are currently ranked 5th in the world. That's nothing like the Maple Leafs.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 01:02:56 PM
Big date for your diaries ...

TUESDAY 16TH NOVEMBER
Netherlands v Norway

If Norway beat the Netherlands ... the Dutch aren't going to the world cup ... again.

They have previously failed to qualify in 1958, 1962, 1966, 1970, 1982, 1986, 2002 & last time out in 2018.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 14, 2021, 01:23:02 PM
They have become synonymous with ineptitude and it is made worse by their blindly devoted fan base adoring them
What are we supposed to do? Support France instead? What a silly comparison.

I know you can’t fathom a world where your allegiances aren’t constrained by arbitrary borders, but it’s already out there.

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even though the franchise appears to be more concerned with making money.
England isn't a franchise and it doesn't make very much money when compared with clubs.

Even worse than the Leafs then.

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It’s kind of exactly what England is like in international football.
No. Its nothing like England. England are always one of the top teams in the world. There are 211 FIFA ranked teams right now. England are currently ranked 5th in the world. That's nothing like the Maple Leafs.

The future is always bright and full of potential in the deluded minds of Leafs fans as well, then they find new and creative ways to disappoint. Just like England.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 02:05:38 PM
They have become synonymous with ineptitude and it is made worse by their blindly devoted fan base adoring them
What are we supposed to do? Support France instead? What a silly comparison.

I know you can’t fathom a world where your allegiances aren’t constrained by arbitrary borders, but it’s already out there.
So you think people from Germany should just support Italy if Germany isn't playing so well, and when France aren't doing to sell, their fans support maybe Spain? How ridiculous. You are what is called a glory hunter. A plastic supporter. You don't just support a team when they are winning. The time when they need your support is when they aren't doing so well. What an awful fan you are.

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even though the franchise appears to be more concerned with making money.
England isn't a franchise and it doesn't make very much money when compared with clubs.

Even worse than the Leafs then.
I wish you'd learn to quote properly. The national team isn't there to bring in revenue. Its there to bring the nation together during tournaments and make us feel proud of our country. Which is important if you ever want those same people to defend that country from say China or the USA.

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It’s kind of exactly what England is like in international football.
No. Its nothing like England. England are always one of the top teams in the world. There are 211 FIFA ranked teams right now. England are currently ranked 5th in the world. That's nothing like the Maple Leafs.

The future is always bright and full of potential in the deluded minds of Leafs fans as well, then they find new and creative ways to disappoint. Just like England.
There are 211 countries. The world cup is every 4 years. This means you should win the world cup on average, once every 844 years. England have already won it before. Its not our turn again until the year 2810. If we win it any time again before then, we're successful. When was the last time your country won the world cup? Oh, that's right ... never.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 14, 2021, 02:41:09 PM
They have become synonymous with ineptitude and it is made worse by their blindly devoted fan base adoring them
What are we supposed to do? Support France instead? What a silly comparison.

I know you can’t fathom a world where your allegiances aren’t constrained by arbitrary borders, but it’s already out there.
So you think people from Germany should just support Italy if Germany isn't playing so well, and when France aren't doing to sell, their fans support maybe Spain? How ridiculous. You are what is called a glory hunter. A plastic supporter. You don't just support a team when they are winning. The time when they need your support is when they aren't doing so well. What an awful fan you are.

Nice strawman.

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even though the franchise appears to be more concerned with making money.
England isn't a franchise and it doesn't make very much money when compared with clubs.

Even worse than the Leafs then.
I wish you'd learn to quote properly.

I wish you’d be a kinder human, we don’t always get what we want.

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The national team isn't there to bring in revenue. Its there to bring the nation together during tournaments and make us feel proud of our country. Which is important if you ever want those same people to defend that country from say China or the USA.

Lol. Nice fascism.

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It’s kind of exactly what England is like in international football.
No. Its nothing like England. England are always one of the top teams in the world. There are 211 FIFA ranked teams right now. England are currently ranked 5th in the world. That's nothing like the Maple Leafs.

The future is always bright and full of potential in the deluded minds of Leafs fans as well, then they find new and creative ways to disappoint. Just like England.
There are 211 countries. The world cup is every 4 years. This means you should win the world cup on average, once every 844 years. England have already won it before. Its not our turn again until the year 2810. If we win it any time again before then, we're successful. When was the last time your country won the world cup? Oh, that's right ... never.

You sound like you are coping for the massive success of countries like Argentina, Brazil, Italy and Germany. A good fan would just admit your program isn’t very good.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 03:05:11 PM
Big date for your diaries ...

TUESDAY 16TH NOVEMBER
Netherlands v Norway
I already posted about that. Read the thread again.

If Norway beat the Netherlands ... the Dutch aren't going to the world cup ... again.
I see your understanding of FIFA qualifications is just as terrible as your understanding of politics.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 03:40:53 PM
If Norway beat the Netherlands ... the Dutch aren't going to the world cup ... again.
I see your understanding of FIFA qualifications is just as terrible as your understanding of politics.

You aren't European and come from a country that knows nothing about football. Its fine, I'll explain.

(https://i.ibb.co/Rz3Cn3M/group-g.jpg)

There are 6 teams in a group. And everyone plays everyone else twice. Once at home, and once away. This means everyone has to play 5 other teams twice for a total of 10 games. As you can see, group G have all played 9 games, meaning they all have one game to play.

The Netherlands have to play Norway.
Turkey have to play Montenegro.

You get 3 pts for a win. 1 pt for a draw and 0 pts for a loss.

Turkey will beat Montenegro. This is because Turkey is a solid team with some world class players and Montenegro is a tiny country that is going to lose.

This will mean Turkey will finish the group with 21 pts.
If Norway beat Netherlands, they too will have 21 pts.
The Netherlands will finish 3rd with 20 pts and will fail to qualify as only the top two teams in each group progress.

I hope that helps and that your appreciation of the beautiful game can continue to develop as you learn more about it.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 03:43:42 PM
Turkey will beat Montenegro. This is because Turkey is a solid team with some world class players and Montenegro is a tiny country that is going to lose.
Have you already forgotten that Montenegro drew with the Netherlands just yesterday?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 14, 2021, 03:43:58 PM
@thonk

 Maybe you should read the actual rules?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 03:44:18 PM
Turkey will beat Montenegro. This is because Turkey is a solid team with some world class players and Montenegro is a tiny country that is going to lose.
Have you already forgotten that Montenegro drew with the Netherlands just yesterday?
The Netherlands are shit. Turkey aren't.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 03:47:01 PM
The Netherlands are shit. Turkey aren't.
The Netherlands beat Turkey 6–1 in September. If you're just trying to rile me up, maybe say things that make you look a little less dumb?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 03:51:28 PM
The Netherlands just threw away a 2 - 0 lead over Montenegro.

For context the last 2 times England played Montenegro (2019) the score lines were
England 7 - 0 Montenegro
and
Montenegro 1 - 5 England.

Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 14, 2021, 03:51:48 PM
I always remembered Turkey being a perennial qualifier but man was I wrong.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 03:55:25 PM
The Netherlands just threw away a 2 - 0 lead over Montenegro.
Yes. That's my point. You're making an assumption about the outcome of Montenegro vs. Turkey which is probably correct, but not guaranteed. It is still possible for the Netherlands to qualify even if they lose to Norway.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 14, 2021, 03:57:12 PM
Since England won in 1966 they have never made it further than the semi finals and have an average finish of 8th place. Over the same time span, the Netherlands have been runner up three times and have an average finish of 6th place.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 07:23:05 PM
Meanwhile, a far more interesting match is about to unfold in just a couple of hours. South Africa is almost guaranteed to qualify for the World Cup, but if Ghana beats them by 2 goals or more, they get to go instead. Grab your biltong and your Windhoek Lager and settle in for a deciding moment!
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 08:03:03 PM
Meanwhile, a far more interesting match is about to unfold in just a couple of hours. South Africa is almost guaranteed to qualify for the World Cup, but if Ghana beats them by 2 goals or more, they get to go instead. Grab your biltong and your Windhoek Lager and settle in for a deciding moment!
South Africa need to go out. They are responsible for the vuvuzela. We don't want their fans at any world cup ever with those things.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 08:25:36 PM
South Africa need to go out. They are responsible for the vuvuzela. We don't want their fans at any world cup ever with those things.
I suppose if you can't beat them on the field, all you can do is complain about their fans.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 09:23:54 PM
So Wikipedia's time for the match is apparently wrong. But:

Ghana 1 – 0 South Africa

And apparently I miscalculated because Ghana is now going to the World Cup instead of South Africa. Let's hope the Netherlands does well on Tuesday, or I won't have a team to support.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 09:39:20 PM
And apparently I miscalculated because Ghana is now going to the World Cup instead of South Africa. Let's hope the Netherlands does well on Tuesday, or I won't have a team to support.
Apparently you can just pick someone else to support.

They have become synonymous with ineptitude and it is made worse by their blindly devoted fan base adoring them
What are we supposed to do? Support France instead? What a silly comparison.

I know you can’t fathom a world where your allegiances aren’t constrained by arbitrary borders, but it’s already out there.
You speak English. You should support England.

I suppose if you can't beat them on the field, all you can do is complain about their fans.
England have played South Africa 19 times. England have won 18 and drawn 1. Beating South Africa isn't a concern. We just don't want to listen to their awful vuvuzelas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCIFXqhLzo

It ruined that world cup. Every game had that buzzing noise all the way through.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 09:45:31 PM
Luxembourg 0 – 3 Republic of Ireland

Maith sibh, a chairde!

Apparently you can just pick someone else to support.
Why would I do that?

You speak English. You should support England.
This might come as shocking news to you, but England is not the only English-speaking country in the world. The English don't even speak English particularly well, unless you compare them to the Americans.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 14, 2021, 09:56:43 PM
Luxembourg 0 – 3 Republic of Ireland

Maith sibh, a chairde!
Celebrating a win over Luxembourg shows how new you are to football.

Apparently you can just pick someone else to support.
Why would I do that?
I don't know. Rama says borders don't matter. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This might come as shocking news to you, but England is not the only English-speaking country in the world. The English don't even speak English particularly well, unless you compare them to the Americans.
wut?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 14, 2021, 10:00:42 PM
Celebrating a win over Luxembourg shows how new you are to football.
What was it you were saying about a team needing your support the most when they're not doing so well?

I don't know. Rama says borders don't matter. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Do I look like Rama to you?

This might come as shocking news to you, but England is not the only English-speaking country in the world. The English don't even speak English particularly well, unless you compare them to the Americans.
wut?
Did you know that the word "saw" does not contain the letter "r"? John Lennon didn't.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 15, 2021, 11:43:29 AM
Since England won in 1966 they have never made it further than the semi finals and have an average finish of 8th place. Over the same time span, the Netherlands have been runner up three times and have an average finish of 6th place.
So...that's England 1, The Netherlands 0 in terms of World Cups then.

It's the hope that kills you with England. Because we basically invented football we think we should be the best at it but we demonstrably aren't. That said, we do have a good side right now - semi-finals of the last World Cup, final of the Euros this year. But the final this year broke me. I'm not going to sing "it's coming home" again because it never bloody is. If we can't win a final at home then I bloody give up.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 15, 2021, 02:59:56 PM
Tonight ... San Marino vs England

I predict:      San Marino 0 - 6 England
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 15, 2021, 03:57:34 PM
Tonight ... San Marino vs England

I predict:      San Marino 0 - 6 England

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44TfE5mDlBI
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 15, 2021, 04:54:52 PM
Tonight ... San Marino vs England
And more importantly, Northern Ireland vs Italy. The Italians are going to wipe the floor, but I'll be cheering for Ireland anyway.

This is an interesting one because, along with the simultaneous Switzerland vs Bulgaria match, it will decide which of Italy or Switzerland qualifies and which goes to the play-offs. They are currently tied for points, so every goal counts, even though it won't get Ireland anywhere.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 15, 2021, 08:27:37 PM
So far, Italy has had several opportunities to score, but Bailey Peacock-Farrell's game is perfect tonight. Despite Italy being a far superior team, the score is still at 0–0 thanks to the Northern Irish goalkeeper. Keep it up, chaps!

(https://i.pha.lt/northern-ireland-ulster)
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 15, 2021, 08:49:38 PM
Tonight ... San Marino vs England

I predict:      San Marino 0 - 6 England
You meant by half time, obviously.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Dr David Thork on November 15, 2021, 09:23:33 PM
Tonight ... San Marino vs England

I predict:      San Marino 0 - 6 England
You meant by half time, obviously.
Obviously. I'm not even watching the second half.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 15, 2021, 09:28:07 PM
Tonight ... San Marino vs England

I predict:      San Marino 0 - 6 England
You meant by half time, obviously.
Obviously. I'm not even watching the second half.
I couldn’t be arsed watching, so inevitable was the result. Just had a look, it’s 10-0 at the moment  :D
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 15, 2021, 09:34:35 PM
And that’s how it finished.
#itscominghome
#notreally
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 15, 2021, 09:38:02 PM
Northern Ireland 0 – 0 Italy

You're welcome, England.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 16, 2021, 04:25:51 PM
I'm going to miss the first half of today's Netherlands vs Norway game because I have an Irish lesson, so hopefully they save the best for last.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 16, 2021, 08:42:45 PM
I'm going to miss the first half of today's Netherlands vs Norway game because I have an Irish lesson, so hopefully they save the best for last.
Seems like I didn't miss much. It's still 0–0 at half time. Turkey is also tied 1–1 with Montenegro. This is nail-biting. A single goal could topple the Netherlands from their throne in their qualifying group.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 16, 2021, 08:57:19 PM
By the way, FAO Americans.
England’s battering of San Marino would be described by our press as a rout (pronounced “rowt”).
If you want to get somewhere you plan a route
(pronounced “root”)

But Americans pronounce “route” like we pronounce “rout”. Wrongly, obviously.

So my question is do Americans pronounce “rout” and “route” the same, or do you guys not use the word “rout” to describe a heavy defeat?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 16, 2021, 09:02:51 PM
If you want to get somewhere you plan a route
(pronounced “root”)
In Australia, "root" is a slang term for sexual intercourse. Planning a root is very different from planning a route.

You're welcome, former colonial overlords.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 16, 2021, 09:08:06 PM
If you want to get somewhere you plan a route
(pronounced “root”)
In Australia, "root" is a slang term for sexual intercourse. Planning a root is very different from planning a route.

You're welcome, former colonial overlords.
Yes. I notice from Home and Away and Neighbours that you also use the word “but” at the end of a sentence when you should use “though”. Weirdos.

Australia is my second favourite country which we invented though and my favourite former prison colony.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Rama Set on November 16, 2021, 09:08:33 PM
If you want to get somewhere you plan a route
(pronounced “root”)
In Australia, "root" is a slang term for sexual intercourse. Planning a root is very different from planning a route.

You're welcome, former colonial overlords.
Yes. I notice from Home and Away and Neighbours that you also use the word “but” at the end of a sentence when you should use “though”. Weirdos.

Australia is my second favourite country which we invented though and my favourite former prison colony.

Thork?
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 16, 2021, 09:14:21 PM
Yes. I notice from Home and Away and Neighbours that you also use the word “but” at the end of a sentence when you should use “though”. Weirdos.
Please don't insult me by calling me Australian. I've lived there long enough to be aware of the dialect, but I don't use such boorish localisms.

There is one word in Australian English, though, that should be more widely adopted. That word is "rort". It would be particularly helpful in the UK's current political situation.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 16, 2021, 09:22:36 PM
Turkey is now up 2–1 against Montenegro, although provided the Netherlands simply holds the score against Norway at 0–0, they still have a good enough goal difference to qualify. The next 15 minutes will decide who goes to Qatar and who stays home.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 16, 2021, 09:28:21 PM
The Netherlands just scored. Norway needs to score 2 goals in the next 10 minutes if they want a shot at Qatar.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 16, 2021, 09:37:31 PM
Netherlands 2 – 0 Norway

Héél knap, jongens. We'll see you in Qatar.

(https://i.pha.lt/flagnlanimated)
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Iceman on November 16, 2021, 10:15:02 PM
@AATW we pronounce it rout. Once you add the 'e' the pronunciation changes to route.

Glad I could clear up this confusion
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: WTF_Seriously on November 17, 2021, 04:58:44 PM
@AATW we pronounce it rout. Once you add the 'e' the pronunciation changes to route.

Glad I could clear up this confusion

Rout is definitely pronounced "rowt".  Americans will pronounce route both ways.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Iceman on November 17, 2021, 05:24:44 PM
Yeah, that's what I said.

Also who's idea was it to host a WC qualifier in northern canada in late November!? Celebrations with snowballs and diving into snowbanks is a new one for me
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: xasop on November 17, 2021, 05:25:29 PM
Also who's idea was it to host a WC qualifier in northern canada in late November!? Celebrations with snowballs and diving into snowbanks is a new one for me
Still not as terrible of an idea as hosting the World Cup itself in the middle of a desert.
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Iceman on November 17, 2021, 05:30:24 PM
This is fair. But that decision was build on bribes, not just... poor planning.

Maybe the city of edmonton has some powerful lobbyists I'm just not aware of. Entertaining though
Title: Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 19, 2021, 11:29:03 AM
Yeah, that's what I said.

Also who's idea was it to host a WC qualifier in northern canada in late November!? Celebrations with snowballs and diving into snowbanks is a new one for me
I went to see Bayern Munich play one time (my team were playing them, we got our arses handed to us).
It was winter and it was a pretty miserable day but one highlight was a massive snowball fight during half time.