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Title: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Lord Dave on July 10, 2014, 02:09:45 AM
My wife was reading her Norwegian news site when she came across an article that happened today.

This is the story.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/multiple-fatalities-houston-area-shooting-24497032

So yeah, a Norwegian news paper picked up on this shooting and put it on the front page. 

Also this raises an interesting question:
Where was the good guy with a gun? 
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Ghost of V on July 10, 2014, 02:11:21 AM
Those airlifts are deadly.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Saddam Hussein on July 10, 2014, 03:14:12 AM
In before the conspiracy nuts begin babbling about hoaxes and actors and psyops.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Ghost of V on July 10, 2014, 03:15:13 AM
In before the conspiracy nuts begin babbling about hoaxes and actors and psyops.

Well, now that you mention it...

Fuck it.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: beardo on July 10, 2014, 03:33:01 AM
guns, fuck yeah
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Fortuna on July 10, 2014, 06:53:09 AM
A blanket-wide gun ban wouldn't work in America because the country is too damn big.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Ghost of V on July 10, 2014, 06:59:45 AM
Why don't we just legalize murder?
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: jroa on July 10, 2014, 10:58:01 AM
If Norway had their own guns, they would not have to steal our front pages.  Scabs. 
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: beardo on July 10, 2014, 12:43:45 PM
Where is Foxy?
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Rushy on July 10, 2014, 02:54:38 PM
I know, why don't we act like civilized people and hold the person who shot these people responsible, rather than insist that somehow inanimate objects forced this man to murder people.

"It's not my fault, the gun told me to do it" is dangerously close to being a possible court defense among this age of idiots.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: juner on July 10, 2014, 03:11:34 PM
If Norway had their own guns, they would not have to steal our front pages.  Scabs.

Bro, Norway knows how to massacre, too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Lord Dave on July 10, 2014, 06:09:44 PM
I know, why don't we act like civilized people and hold the person who shot these people responsible, rather than insist that somehow inanimate objects forced this man to murder people.

"It's not my fault, the gun told me to do it" is dangerously close to being a possible court defense among this age of idiots.
We're not mad at the gun, we're mad at how easy guns make murder.  I mean, where's the effort?  There was a day when you had to literally get your hands bloody to kill multiple people quickly.  Now its just so... Impersonal.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Rushy on July 10, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
We're not mad at the gun, we're mad at how easy guns make murder.  I mean, where's the effort?  There was a day when you had to literally get your hands bloody to kill multiple people quickly.  Now its just so... Impersonal.

Cars make it really easy to impersonally murder a lot of people, too. Hell, we've even seen how a pressure cooker can impersonally murder many people.

No argument for banning guns as a response to violence makes any sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: beardo on July 10, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
Are you sure he would have killed those people even if he weren't in possession of firearms?
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: jroa on July 10, 2014, 08:52:29 PM
Chinese people just stab as many people as they can with knives. 
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Lord Dave on July 10, 2014, 10:04:32 PM
We're not mad at the gun, we're mad at how easy guns make murder.  I mean, where's the effort?  There was a day when you had to literally get your hands bloody to kill multiple people quickly.  Now its just so... Impersonal.

Cars make it really easy to impersonally murder a lot of people, too. Hell, we've even seen how a pressure cooker can impersonally murder many people.

No argument for banning guns as a response to violence makes any sense whatsoever.
Yeah but cars aren't designed to kill.
Nor are pressure cookers.

And I think a car is very personal.  You have to really aim for someone.  You feel the thump as they strike your vehicle.  You may even feel the bump as you roll over their bodies.  Plus, cars only kill from melee range.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: fappenhosen on July 10, 2014, 10:27:30 PM
Cars make it really easy to impersonally murder a lot of people, too.

Can you take a car back to the shop and complain that it didn't kill anything?
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Rushy on July 11, 2014, 02:34:01 AM
Are you sure he would have killed those people even if he weren't in possession of firearms?

I'm not. Are you? Unless someone here has a portal to an alternate universe in their pocket this posturing is useless.

Yeah but cars aren't designed to kill.

You sure about that?

(http://www.bestdreamworks.com/hobby/items/1206//h2.jpg)

Without a car this gun would be useless, it's too heavy. Good thing this car is here to kill people.

Nor are pressure cookers.

The evidence that they murder people proves otherwise. Furthermore, even if this were true, most guns are in fact not designed to kill people. We can argue back and forth about this all day.

And I think a car is very personal.  You have to really aim for someone.  You feel the thump as they strike your vehicle.  You may even feel the bump as you roll over their bodies.  Plus, cars only kill from melee range.

You have a very odd definition of personal.

Can you take a car back to the shop and complain that it didn't kill anything?

Huh? Who does this? You either hang out with some weirdos or you yourself are one.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: markjo on July 11, 2014, 03:35:23 AM
(http://www.bestdreamworks.com/hobby/items/1206//h2.jpg)

Without a car this gun would be useless, it's too heavy.
Sure, if you're a pussy airman.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: jroa on July 11, 2014, 06:20:09 AM
That looks like an M240.  I used to carry one.  Sucks to carry one all day, but people do it all the time.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Rushy on July 11, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
That looks like an M240.  I used to carry one.  Sucks to carry one all day, but people do it all the time.

Goddammit jora you're supposed to be helping.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: jroa on July 11, 2014, 02:53:21 PM
You should have posted a picture of one of these.

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_qFUhYYkxN5gAbUM3USdxfgmV59rCsxpb8m9I1S6T8rr5AF4C0A)

That is man portable, but requires a three man team. 
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: fappenhosen on July 11, 2014, 04:44:10 PM
Without a car this gun would be useless, it's too heavy. Good thing this car is here to kill people.

Uh huh. That makes the gun useless not the car. The car is not designed to kill people.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Rushy on July 11, 2014, 06:23:08 PM
Uh huh. That makes the gun useless not the car. The car is not designed to kill people.

Using this definition, bullets are designed to kill people, not guns. The end does not discard the means.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Ghost of V on July 11, 2014, 06:33:28 PM
Bullets are made for use in guns. Therefore, guns are made to kill things by proxy.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: fappenhosen on July 11, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Using this definition, bullets are designed to kill people, not guns. The end does not discard the means.

Bullets are designed to kill people. Guns are designed to fire bullets. The gun is made to ease the transition of bullet from magazine to brain. A gun that cannot be used to kill people is often a useless gun (tranquillizer guns, starter pistols, veterinary guns etc aside). The gun is (in the general sense) designed to kill people.

The car is not designed to kill people. It is incidental that, post design, post production, a gun can be strapped to a car.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: markjo on July 11, 2014, 08:05:47 PM
Bullets are designed to kill people.
No.  Bullets are designed to inflict damage on a target.  That target need not be human.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: beardo on July 12, 2014, 06:02:29 AM
You can beat a person to death with a gun.
Title: Re: Shooting in Texas leaves 6 dead.
Post by: Rushy on July 13, 2014, 03:54:25 PM
You can beat a person to death with a gun.

I can beat a person to death with you. Ban all assault-beardos.

Bullets are made for use in guns. Therefore, guns are made to kill things by proxy.

Bullets just happen to go well with guns. I can easily fire a bullet without a gun.

Bullets are designed to kill people.

This is utterly incorrect. Bullets are designed to be shot at thin paper targets.