In FET the sun casts light in a circle beneath it.
However on the equinox each point on earth is in daylight for exactly 12 hours a day.
That would require the sun to on average light half of the earth at any given moment.

The wiki shows the sun casting light in a circle of half the diameter of the earth which only lights a quarter of the earth at once and lights the inner parts much longer than the outer.

What is the correct shape of the light that the sun casts?
We generally accept evidence from all  sources.

The only evidence for Round Earth celestial accuracy (assuming that timeanddate is even based on RET) is the evidence you collected with your friends last month?

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 03:54:45 PM »
The zetetic method involves looking at every possibility and evaluating it to find the truth: feel free to add to my humble list of options;

Maybe the sun moves quicker on the equinox, instantaneously swapping between the zones to ensure each gets the 12 hours we see.
Although it has to move at the constant speed that we see so we'd have to factor this in to make it work.
Also we still get sunrise and sunset so it has to move quickly between the zones to give each 12 hours but yet slow enough to produce the gradual diminishment/emergence we see.

Maybe the suns ray are more intense and it angles its rays differently so that although appearing to move at the same speed it is able to send its rays of light ahead of it. Maybe the spotlight splits into multiple spotlights so that it can send its light wherever it's needed to give us the light we see whilst still appearing to be moving at its steady pace in east to west motion. Although why would the sun do this twice a year and why don't see these extra beams of light and how would it look from the area that is getting these "advance" sun beams before the sun rises?

Maybe the earth is a globe.

Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 04:34:45 PM »
The zetetic method involves looking at every possibility and evaluating it to find the truth: feel free to add to my humble list of options;

Maybe the sun moves quicker on the equinox, instantaneously swapping between the zones to ensure each gets the 12 hours we see.
Although it has to move at the constant speed that we see so we'd have to factor this in to make it work.
Also we still get sunrise and sunset so it has to move quickly between the zones to give each 12 hours but yet slow enough to produce the gradual diminishment/emergence we see.

Maybe the suns ray are more intense and it angles its rays differently so that although appearing to move at the same speed it is able to send its rays of light ahead of it. Maybe the spotlight splits into multiple spotlights so that it can send its light wherever it's needed to give us the light we see whilst still appearing to be moving at its steady pace in east to west motion. Although why would the sun do this twice a year and why don't see these extra beams of light and how would it look from the area that is getting these "advance" sun beams before the sun rises?

Maybe the earth is a globe.

You've watched too many NASA videos.  Unfortunately, CGI is getting better and it is too late for your poor soul 

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 05:48:48 PM »

You've watched too many NASA videos.  Unfortunately, CGI is getting better and it is too late for your poor soul
If you are going to pin the CGI thing on NASA, how do you explain the videos they showed on TV in the 1960's when computers used punch cards and magnetic tape?

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 05:55:28 PM »

You've watched too many NASA videos.  Unfortunately, CGI is getting better and it is too late for your poor soul
If you are going to pin the CGI thing on NASA, how do you explain the videos they showed on TV in the 1960's when computers used punch cards and magnetic tape?

Tools like Photoshop are just digital equivalents to what has been available in an artist's studio for many years. The tools within the programs simulate what a studio has. It's a poor man's art studio.

Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 06:00:23 PM »

You've watched too many NASA videos.  Unfortunately, CGI is getting better and it is too late for your poor soul
If you are going to pin the CGI thing on NASA, how do you explain the videos they showed on TV in the 1960's when computers used punch cards and magnetic tape?

Tools like Photoshop are just digital equivalents to what has been available in an artist's studio for many years. The tools within the programs simulate what a studio has. It's a poor man's art studio.
Incorrect.

Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 06:32:15 PM »
This thread has nothing to do with images, you can stand on any point on earth and time day time and night time at twelve hours each.
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The only evidence for Round Earth celestial accuracy (assuming that timeanddate is even based on RET) is the evidence you collected with your friends last month?

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 06:38:52 PM »
This thread has nothing to do with images, you can stand on any point on earth and time day time and night time at twelve hours each.

Any records of that?

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 06:53:49 PM »

Tools like Photoshop are just digital equivalents to what has been available in an artist's studio for many years. The tools within the programs simulate what a studio has. It's a poor man's art studio.
Just when I think these arguments can't get any more ridiculous. Photoshop capabilities existed before Photoshop and places on Earth don't get equal amounts of day&night on the Equinox.

Do you feel better about your belief system to respond even when responding with utter nonsense?

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 07:28:35 PM »

Tools like Photoshop are just digital equivalents to what has been available in an artist's studio for many years. The tools within the programs simulate what a studio has. It's a poor man's art studio.
Just when I think these arguments can't get any more ridiculous. Photoshop capabilities existed before Photoshop and places on Earth don't get equal amounts of day&night on the Equinox.

Do you feel better about your belief system to respond even when responding with utter nonsense?

Are you asserting that Adobe Photoshop is the original creator of the concepts of erasers, paint brushes, slicing, blurring, masking, dodging, and field of view warping?

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 07:28:54 PM »


You've watched too many NASA videos.  Unfortunately, CGI is getting better and it is too late for your poor soul

What the heck has NASA got to do with this question?????

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 07:31:38 PM »

Are you asserting that Adobe Photoshop is the original creator of the concepts of erasers, paint brushes, slicing, blurring, masking, dodging, and field of view warping?

Have you ever watched a film from the 60's-70's with "special effects" seriously Tom they wouldn't convince a child, the advent of modern CGI sure they are realistic so yes in that respect Photoshop would have the first time these mass produced high quality fakes could have been made.

Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 07:32:01 PM »
This thread has nothing to do with images, you can stand on any point on earth and time day time and night time at twelve hours each.

Any records of that?

Okay fine, it's 12 hours and 8 mins, so the sun must cover 50.8% of the earth. But yes, of course there are records.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/new-zealand/auckland?month=9&year=2017
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/edinburgh?month=9&year=2017
We generally accept evidence from all  sources.

The only evidence for Round Earth celestial accuracy (assuming that timeanddate is even based on RET) is the evidence you collected with your friends last month?

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2017, 07:35:54 PM »
This thread has nothing to do with images, you can stand on any point on earth and time day time and night time at twelve hours each.

Any records of that?

Okay fine, it's 12 hours and 8 mins, so the sun must cover 50.8% of the earth. But yes, of course there are records.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/new-zealand/auckland?month=9&year=2017
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/edinburgh?month=9&year=2017

That's a calculator, not a list of observations.

Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2017, 07:38:09 PM »
This thread has nothing to do with images, you can stand on any point on earth and time day time and night time at twelve hours each.

Any records of that?

Okay fine, it's 12 hours and 8 mins, so the sun must cover 50.8% of the earth. But yes, of course there are records.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/new-zealand/auckland?month=9&year=2017
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/edinburgh?month=9&year=2017

That's a calculator, not a list of observations.
That information is accurate, as you found out for your location.

Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2017, 07:40:32 PM »
This thread has nothing to do with images, you can stand on any point on earth and time day time and night time at twelve hours each.

Any records of that?

Okay fine, it's 12 hours and 8 mins, so the sun must cover 50.8% of the earth. But yes, of course there are records.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/new-zealand/auckland?month=9&year=2017
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/edinburgh?month=9&year=2017

That's a calculator, not a list of observations.

But your claim is that these are incorrect?
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The only evidence for Round Earth celestial accuracy (assuming that timeanddate is even based on RET) is the evidence you collected with your friends last month?

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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2017, 07:42:47 PM »
Have you ever watched a film from the 60's-70's with "special effects" seriously Tom they wouldn't convince a child

Their alleged space ships look like they were built by a child, so they are in good company.

Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2017, 08:04:54 PM »
Part of me is wondering if you are just trolling about fake-NASA to distract from the original question.
How does this have anything to do with space travel?
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Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2017, 08:30:16 PM »
Part of me is wondering if you are just trolling about fake-NASA to distract from the original question.
How does this have anything to do with space travel?

I personally found the question to be rather uninteresting. We get the same question all the time. Here are some examples on how this topic will proceed:

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=6588.0

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=6498.msg121460#msg121460

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=6919.msg125884#msg125884

Re: How can the sun cast light in a circle when it covers half the earth?
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2017, 08:39:57 PM »
This is a different question to all three linked,
I'm not asking about the temperature, distances or direction of sun rise and set.
We generally accept evidence from all  sources.

The only evidence for Round Earth celestial accuracy (assuming that timeanddate is even based on RET) is the evidence you collected with your friends last month?