I've been reading about Flat Earth stuff for last few days getting a grasp on things.  Still lot of question I'll ask in future regarding Astral Projection, Aleister Crowley and Reincarnation.

Anyway, as I've been putting pieces of the puzzles together I've realized my father was involved with Disney, Max Fleischer Studios and Paramount.  Short story about Fleischer Studios is Paramount took it over in the 1940's.

In the late 1960's, my father was working with these twin brothers from Cuba and they invented the most advanced 3D Technology lens there is for animation.  They started a company called New Dimension Films with some close people of Fleischer Studios.   To make a long story short the lens and technology was stolen and the company disappeared.  My father died about 10 years ago but never really talked about it, just that the lens and everything was stolen and not to trust anyone in life.

I have a newspaper article talking the the stolen technology and remains a mystery.  It dates back from the early 1970's and the length of article is of Legal size paper.  It's boxed away and lost somewhere but can find it sometime, but may take a while, and will have to scan it twice and paste it together because of the length.

My life is so currently messed up, but in the meantime I do have some of the patent information here on Google -  https://www.google.com.au/patents/US3556646

The patent was filed in 1967 and looks like publication is 1971 and sometime around then and 1972 it was stolen.

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2016, 02:00:09 AM »
Considering about other stolen technology and missing scientists, my dads project came to mind.  I have a feeling based on lot of information that my dads partner technology is still being used today by NASA, paramount and disney

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2016, 06:40:04 AM »
they invented the most advanced 3D Technology lens there is for animation.

3D lens for animation? I think you are confused about how 3D animation is made.

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2016, 07:33:29 AM »
I wish I knew more but my dad specifically stated a special lens that no one else had.  This was around 1987 the last time he spoke about it, but the newspaper article does mention the lens too. 

I do remember asking why not just rebuild the lens again but forgot what he said and was vague, I was young and this was long time ago.  I tried few places looking for the article, but it's in a folder somewhere mixed with other things.  I do have some paperwork discussing how advanced and far superior it is over Disney's animation but the newspaper article is in another folder and definitely mentions the lens.   Worst comes to worst, I know someone who worked with my dad and she has same newspaper article but last time she scanned it, it was not best of quality compared if I do it, unless she can do better scan.

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2016, 07:39:35 AM »
I think that was just 1 patent listed and there are more.  The google link does mention lens bunch of time and think other patents were filed

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2016, 08:26:43 AM »
Dude. You don't use a lens for animation. That's like saying "my father built a superior paintbrush for photography. It's way better than the paintbrush that National Geographic uses for photography."

You don't need a paintbrush for photography, and you don't need a lens for animation. If you can provide the article, great. But I suspect either you or your father are super confused.

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2016, 08:33:07 AM »
I know what your saying but at the same time, no one else had this technology and in regards to this special lens it killed off the whole project and company.   

It's like the Flux Capacitor for the Back To The Future Car, it was the core component. 

Edit:  I should get the article from this lady sometime tomorrow and emailed her. 
« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 08:53:54 AM by Sirius_Gulf201 »

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2016, 09:30:27 AM »
In the meantime here are the overview documents.  They are super hi-res scans and total 14mb size for everything.

It does not mention the lens, but I honestly remember that was the core component mentioned in article and dad mentioning.

http://7dust.net/0100.jpg

http://7dust.net/0101.jpg

http://7dust.net/0102.jpg

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2016, 01:16:16 PM »

You don't need a paintbrush for photography

 ;)  This is fully 100% real and no photoshop.  The person is across the street on his porch holding the camera in 1 hand and painting the side of the steeple with other hand

« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 03:13:37 PM by Sirius_Gulf201 »

Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2016, 03:53:55 PM »
In the meantime here are the overview documents.  They are super hi-res scans and total 14mb size for everything.

It does not mention the lens, but I honestly remember that was the core component mentioned in article and dad mentioning.

http://7dust.net/0100.jpg

http://7dust.net/0101.jpg

http://7dust.net/0102.jpg

They are referring to a specialized cel animation technique. The patent you posted refers to some kind of special jig designed to allow more flexible positioning of the cels which would allow adding depth/shadows to the animation. They don't mention any kind of special lens.

If your father really was cheated out of this patent somehow, my condolences. However, I doubt anyone (especially NASA) has seriously used this technology in the past 20 years. Computer animation has made it completely obsolete.

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Re: New Information About Stolen Technology - Disney / Paramount / NASA
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2017, 11:19:37 AM »
In the meantime here are the overview documents.  They are super hi-res scans and total 14mb size for everything.

It does not mention the lens, but I honestly remember that was the core component mentioned in article and dad mentioning.

http://7dust.net/0100.jpg

http://7dust.net/0101.jpg

http://7dust.net/0102.jpg

They are referring to a specialized cel animation technique. The patent you posted refers to some kind of special jig designed to allow more flexible positioning of the cels which would allow adding depth/shadows to the animation. They don't mention any kind of special lens.

If your father really was cheated out of this patent somehow, my condolences. However, I doubt anyone (especially NASA) has seriously used this technology in the past 20 years. Computer animation has made it completely obsolete.

I do a lot of graphics work - I don't think people have used this tech in significant productions.   Disney never used more than a few levels of cel.   It sounds like your father's notes are talking about a gizmo called a "Multiplane Camera" - which does indeed have a special lens.  It came in two versions - however, Disney used both versions of this tech in films they made in 1935 and 1937 - and it was featured in the film "Pinnochio" in 1940.

So your dad clearly had no influence on that.

Next came the influence of Xerography in the 1950's (effectively allowing them to photocopy backgrounds in composition to avoid having to repaint things)...which meant that they didn't need all of the layers your Dad seems to have imagined they'd want to have.

The technology of making cartoons didn't change again until 1985 when a photographic/chemical process was added (doesn't sound like anything your dad did - and if they stole his work in the 1970's then why would they sit on it for 15 years?).

By 2002, they used computers for compositing and cel animation became a thing of the past.

It's hard to tell what happened here - but I think you're wrong to imagine that Disney stole something incredibly amazing and then made a fortune out of it.

The state of animation didn't change significantly from 1950 until 2002.

NASA has had computer animation since almost the very start.   The guy who did the animations for the Voyager mission (Jim Blinn) is a good friend of mine - he was working on that using 100% computer-based techniques a couple of years before the probe was launched...so that would have been around 1975.  Prior to Voyager, there were no significant animations used by NASA.

So I don't believe NASA stole a damned thing...they had no need of cel animation...they didn't use it.

If you ever find that Newspaper article, it would be interesting to find out what your Dad's breakthrough REALLY was and to track what happened to it.