Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Reply #620 on: August 30, 2017, 09:07:43 PM »
That's retarded.

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Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Reply #621 on: September 02, 2017, 03:27:09 AM »
Wow... I did not write that well.
Harley Quinn's creation was in Batman: The Animated Series.  Where they also showed her Origin story, which takes place a while after the joker's origin.

My point was you'd have a movie that showed one villain's origin then move onto another villain's origin in the same movie. Which doesn't sound like a good idea.

Why would a movie about the Joker's origin include Harley's origin? We already saw pretty much all there was to her origin in SS, anyway.

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Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Reply #622 on: September 06, 2017, 12:18:00 AM »
While I'm on the subject of rambling about Batman, I'll at least credit the Burtman movies with having some fantastic set designs:





Every Batman adaptation should try to make Gotham look and feel unique. As much as people mock Schumacher's movies, his vision of Gotham as a neon-lit nightlife hub punctuated by enormous statues also had some merit to it:







In many ways, this aesthetic was a modern update of how the city was portrayed in Silver Age comics, particularly ones drawn by Dick Sprang. Giant advertising props were something of a recurring theme back then:





There's a lot more I could say about this subject by bringing up TAS, Gotham, and Bamham, but I think I've made my point by now, and I don't want to have thirty pictures in one post. Anyway, it was disappointing to see the Nolan movies portray Gotham as only a little more interesting than real-world Chicago, and I was genuinely surprised when BvS's take on Gotham was even more generic, given Snyder's love of recreating comic panels and showing off big, flashy shots. And what really kills me about this is that there was a cool, stylized Gotham...in this weird Turkish Airlines ad:



That looks awesome! Why couldn't Gotham have been like that in BvS? Hell, even Metropolis looked great in its own ad:



Why did they have to go with dull warehouses and alleys instead? We have CGI now! They can make the setting look like anything they want!
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Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Reply #623 on: September 06, 2017, 03:41:13 AM »
A city with cranes. Very cool and stylized.
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Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Reply #624 on: September 06, 2017, 04:28:47 AM »
It's more realistic, Sadaam.
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Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Reply #625 on: September 06, 2017, 05:20:48 AM »
A city with cranes. Very cool and stylized.

Don't be so cynical. It's things like the Ace Chemicals sign, the golden opera house, the gargoyle, the great shot of the skyline from what's presumably Bruce Wayne's penthouse. Obviously they're just little details, but if they had actually been representative of the movie's setting, we might have had a Gotham as unique and memorable as Burtman's. Which would have had its legacy ruined by the shitty movie it was in, admittedly. Maybe they'll revisit the idea for the solo Batman movie.

It's more realistic, Sadaam.

We already had three Batman movies that were as realistic as Batman movies could feasibly be. BAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Reply #626 on: September 06, 2017, 08:23:12 AM »
The takeaway studios really need to get is:

If we wanted realism, we wouldn't be going to a Superhero movie.

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Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Reply #627 on: September 13, 2017, 05:29:09 AM »
<Saddam> SnapapaTheRappa: The Gotham shown in the Turkish Airlines ad looked cool, admit it
<SnapapaTheRappa> Saddam: I mean, it looked like a city with some Gotham stuff CGI'd in
<Saddam> Yes
<SnapapaTheRappa> I wouldn't call it "cool and stylized"
<Saddam> It was a foundation for it
<SnapapaTheRappa> At most I'd say "cool, they put in minimal effort to make it Gotham"
<SnapapaTheRappa> Right, which is a far cry from "cool and stylized"
<Parsifal> More like Gotbacon amirite
<Saddam> CGI can design settings more effectively and efficiently than sets
<Anastas> Hmm
<SnapapaTheRappa> Okay?
<Saddam> If Anton Furst could do it with all his models and elaborate set designs in 1989, they can do it with CGI now
<Anastas> It's a spicy take
<Saddam> baaawwwwwww
<SnapapaTheRappa> I think you're missing that my key disgreement here is that that ad was a "cool and stylized" Gotham
<Saddam> It hinted at one, I should say
<Saddam> In and of itself it wasn't that
<SnapapaTheRappa> Also that Metropolis ad had sunlight and colour and it scares me seeing it with DCEU characters
<SnapapaTheRappa> I would agree it hinted at something better
<Saddam> My favorite Gotham is the one in Bamham Knight
<Parsifal> Gotpork
<Saddam> It mashes every adaptation together
<SnapapaTheRappa> Gotmilk
<SnapapaTheRappa> Saddam, I actually agree, Arkham Knight had a fucking great Gotham
<Saddam> One of these days I'll write another rambling post about other adaptations' portrayals of Gotham and include a bunch of pictures
<SnapapaTheRappa> Just too much blue or too much red depending on how much you secured
<SnapapaTheRappa> I didn't like that
<SnapapaTheRappa> Also please do, I like comic talk

I won't say too much about the Gotham of TAS, simply because that show has been written about a million times before. Indeed, the Internet is still in the middle of a surge of new articles about it because of its recent 25th anniversary. I'll just say that it's cool. Art deco, red skies, black backgrounds, airships, and so on:





The Bamham series, and especially Knight, has the best Gotham of all. The architecture splits the difference between Burton's sinister Gothic design and Schumacher's bright-lights-big-city aesthetic, ensuring that neither of them are as exaggerated as they were in the movies, while the airships are no doubt a nod to TAS:







Finally, there's Gotham itself. You can't really get a sense of what the titular city is like from a few pictures, and it's hard to describe it in words too. This article is the best explanation I could find:

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/oct/06/designing-gotham-production-designer-doug-kraner

Bear in mind that was when the show was starting out. It's gotten steadily more flamboyant over the years. I've had my issues with plenty of the things they've done, like supermarkets that cater to criminals (PA system and all!), assassins that chase their targets on motorcycles while waving machetes wildly, and...this scene:



(I actually love that scene. The guitar riff is the best part.)

However, there's no denying that these occurrences lend the city an unmistakable personality and character. Whatever insane thing the show introduces next, I'll believe it, because it's the kind of thing that happens in this Gotham.
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