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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #120 on: March 15, 2022, 02:13:48 PM »
MUH NUANCE!!!
Go ahead and dismiss as usual.

NAZI's are NAZI's and they appreciate your support here on this forum.
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To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #121 on: March 15, 2022, 02:17:32 PM »
Moar proof that only one person liked him in the entire country.
C'mon Tom, this is your weakest strawman yet. If you're running out of material, focus on quality, not quantity.
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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #122 on: March 15, 2022, 02:20:11 PM »
That’s a rally by a political party who polled around 2% of the vote at the last election. What’s your point? You can’t seriously be extrapolating that across the rest of the population?

Muh denialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera



They presumably see his activities as positive because he fought hard for an independent ukraine? Just as the people of Ireland presumably feel about the IRA men who flirted with the Nazis and fought for their independence? You are so, so far away from a successful argument for the ukraine being dominated by some kind of nazi ideology - it’s absurd.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #123 on: March 15, 2022, 02:25:18 PM »
Moar proof that only one person liked him in the entire country.
C'mon Tom, this is your weakest strawman yet. If you're running out of material, focus on quality, not quantity.

As far as I can see you have provided only speculation that his naming of national hero was supported by a single person.

Another poll which says Western Ukraine liked Stephan Bandera.

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/43383/



In the north of Ukraine it's 39%/40%, about 50/50, remainder being undecided, which is not insignificant either.

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They presumably see his activities as positive because he fought hard for an independent ukraine? Just as the people of Ireland presumably feel about the IRA men who flirted with the Nazis and fought for their independence? You are so, so far away from a successful argument for the ukraine being dominated by some kind of nazi ideology - it’s absurd.

So in other words you concede this debate subject. It's not 2% or the work of a single person who supported Hitler's mass-mudering Nazi friend Stephen Bandera as national hero.
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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #124 on: March 15, 2022, 02:58:00 PM »
As far as I can see you have provided only speculation that his naming of national hero was supported by a single person.
Considering I never said anything like that, we should probably not pay much attention to things that only go "as far as you can see".

I told you how it happened (and you've already adjusted your argument slightly, so some education was accomplished, yay!), but it would take a whole new level of desperation to pretend that I claimed only one person supported the action. You normally do much better. Quality, not quantity.
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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #125 on: March 15, 2022, 03:02:18 PM »
it would take a whole new level of desperation to pretend that I claimed only one person supported the action.

Oh yes, my mistake. You corrected yourself to lay blame at two people instead of one, who fabricated the controversy:

Which president are you talking about?
Perhaps "presidents" would have been more apt - Viktor Yushchenko and Viktor Yanukovych each played their role in fabricating this controversy.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #126 on: March 15, 2022, 03:04:01 PM »
Oh yes, my mistake. You corrected yourself to lay blame are two people instead of one, who fabricated the controversy
Tom, Tom, Tom. We're both more intelligent than this. You are trying to conflate the actors with supporters. That line of argumentation wouldn't even work on your usual victims.
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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #127 on: March 15, 2022, 03:23:31 PM »
So pete, tell us... when did you first fall in love with NAZI's?

Was it some time around the death of Chaplin?
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #128 on: March 15, 2022, 03:55:31 PM »
Nazism in Ukraine must be so miniscule that they officially named a prolific Nazi a national hero in 2010.
Ah, yes, a Russian puppet president (who was ousted several years later after doing More Bad Things) did a Bad Thing in Ukraine. Therefore, Russia is justified in doing Yet More Bad Things.

It occurs to me that, if we want to tackle Nazism in Ukraine, we'll have to go straight to the source.

Are you saying we need to blow up the statue of Bandera?  That's how we solved in racism in America.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #129 on: March 15, 2022, 04:13:28 PM »
Are you saying we need to blow up the statue of Bandera?  That's how we solved in racism in America.
I mean, we might as well try it, what's the worst that could happen?

So pete, tell us... when did you first fall in love with NAZI's?
You're the only Nazi I truly love, A69. :-*
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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #130 on: March 15, 2022, 04:27:04 PM »
Oh yes, my mistake. You corrected yourself to lay blame at two people instead of one, who fabricated the controversy
Tom, Tom, Tom. We're both more intelligent than this. You are trying to conflate the actors with supporters. That line of argumentation wouldn't even work on your usual victims.

So when you say that two people fabricated the controversy and are apparently trying to minimize it, you really mean that many people in Ukraine supported it. Got it.
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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #131 on: March 15, 2022, 05:05:11 PM »
So when you say that two people fabricated the controversy and are apparently trying to minimize it, you really mean that many people in Ukraine supported it. Got it.
Of course not. You're not dumb, you know what has and hasn't been said. Let's respect each other's time and not waste it on nonsense like "so what you rEaLlY said is something you didn't say at all, gotcha!!!!"
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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #132 on: March 15, 2022, 06:08:18 PM »
MUH NUANCE!!!
Go ahead and dismiss as usual.

NAZI's are NAZI's and they appreciate your support here on this forum.

You can stamp your all-caps feet all you like, but if you continue to make wild assertions without any evidence, nobody is going to believe you.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #133 on: March 15, 2022, 06:09:05 PM »
Oh yes, my mistake. You corrected yourself to lay blame are two people instead of one, who fabricated the controversy
Tom, Tom, Tom. We're both more intelligent than this. You are trying to conflate the actors with supporters. That line of argumentation wouldn't even work on your usual victims.

So when you say that two people fabricated the controversy and are apparently trying to minimize it, you really mean that many people in Ukraine supported it. Got it.

I find myself in the rather unusual position of entirely agreeing with Pete. What strange times we live in.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #134 on: March 15, 2022, 06:15:29 PM »
MUH NUANCE!!!
Go ahead and dismiss as usual.

NAZI's are NAZI's and they appreciate your support here on this forum.

You can stamp your all-caps feet all you like, but if you continue to make wild assertions without any evidence, nobody is going to believe you.I don't have anything meaningful to add, as the facts are clear.
FTFY.

I cannot help it the sources you love to lean on so frequently reported on the reality of white nationalism in Ukraine as recently as 2 years ago and now want to sweep it under the rug.

You do not care and that's fine.

I do care and I want every single last one of them motherfuckers wiped out.

Don't try to tell me that is a position that needs more nuance or examined in context.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #135 on: March 15, 2022, 06:46:04 PM »
FTFY.

I cannot help it the sources you love to lean on so frequently reported on the reality of white nationalism in Ukraine as recently as 2 years ago and now want to sweep it under the rug.

You do not care and that's fine.

I do care and I want every single last one of them motherfuckers wiped out.

Don't try to tell me that is a position that needs more nuance or examined in context.

You are calling for a genocide and somehow think you are in a morally defensible position.  Your rabbit hole is deep, my dude.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #136 on: March 15, 2022, 07:09:50 PM »
MUH NUANCE!!!
Go ahead and dismiss as usual.

NAZI's are NAZI's and they appreciate your support here on this forum.

You can stamp your all-caps feet all you like, but if you continue to make wild assertions without any evidence, nobody is going to believe you.I don't have anything meaningful to add, as the facts are clear.
FTFY.

I cannot help it the sources you love to lean on so frequently reported on the reality of white nationalism in Ukraine as recently as 2 years ago and now want to sweep it under the rug.

You do not care and that's fine.

I do care and I want every single last one of them motherfuckers wiped out.

Don't try to tell me that is a position that needs more nuance or examined in context.

The bottom line: Are you saying that you are in support of Russia's invasion of Ukraine? Just trying to cut to the chase.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #137 on: March 15, 2022, 08:35:49 PM »
The bottom line: Are you saying that you are in support of Russia's invasion of Ukraine? Just trying to cut to the chase.


If the Putin supporters on this forum believe that Putin is a nice guy who is acting in the best interest of Europe to stomp out Nazis. Just say so.

If you believe Putin would never launch cyber-attacks against our infrastructure and social media or spray someone in the face with neurotoxin, just say so.

Own your communist sympathies and there will be a high place waiting for you in the new Soviet Union.

Also if the presence of Nazis in a country is reason to be invaded, those of us in the United States need to be careful. We got Nazis coming out the ass.

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2022, 10:50:37 AM »
Repugnican thinks Ukrainians should just give up and let the Russians beat them up, just so that she and her snowflake friends don't have to watch it on TV;

https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-2656973028/

""If we truly care about suffering and death on our television screens, we cannot fund more of it by sending money and weaponry to fight a war they cannot possibly win!" she said. "The only effect of more arms and more money from America will be to prolong the war!""

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Re: Putin pulling the strings of Republicans
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2022, 12:02:30 PM »
I’m surprised she hasn’t called on Israel to lend Ukraine their space laser.