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Flat Earth Community / Re: REs netiquette
« on: June 16, 2019, 10:05:47 AM »
A second netiquette point would be to warn new REs of the futility of asking for non-contradictory explainations.
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I agree with that. Amusingly, this what REs think of FEs.I fail to see:
A) How this can be amusing...
II) Any FE adherents glad handedly slapping each other on the back, saying, "...attaboy!"
I would be ok with a section of the forum that Confirmed flat earthers could post and discuss in but is read-only to everyone else. I usually just sit back and read through threads anyway but if FE'ers feel they need a place they can discuss without non flat earthers giving them a hard time, I'd still like to be able to read it.
Indeed, this is why I think the ball needs to be in RE's court here. We get an excessive amount of threads from regulars who just discuss among themselves about how round they think the Earth is, and how much they agree with one another.
May be, first we need to know the color of the soil, before we try to discuss about it.
How many of the actual subscribers on this forum are FEs and REs?
I'm quite surprised that we're having this discussion.
REs should first make a step towards building a consensus themselves. FEs are scared of posting in the forum for being attacked, and REs are quite aggressive and insisting. Probably REs should create a flatearth-discussion etiquette?Sounds great. I don't know what happened to totallackey, but perhaps you're willing to participate instead.
I'm asking for 1-to-1 representation for friendly discussions only.
What if the FE community all pooled together and sent up someone "trustworthy"?
I'm sure they're sick of the repetition of threads from fly-by RE people on here, I am too. More threads started by FE people would mix things up a bit.
and I continue to hope that this temporary wave of RE shitposters will either get bored and leave or start doing something useful.
Or, you could try a middle ground approach where FE'ers have an area where they can discuss freely but RE'ers can still watch. You know, like the FE Believers board on the other site.
I have come to the conclusion that average FE don't want to debate it.
but one thing that would reduce the smoke of REs is just improve Wiki with more logical and scientific explanations.
The mistake Bikini Polaris makes is holding that idea that the FEs have any wish to participate in that type of debate.
There are certainly some FEs on here who enjoy debating for debate's sake, but I've not encountered any who are open to the idea that these discussions could ever change their opinion about the shape of the Earth.
I am pro scientific truth all the way. I don't care if that will be against 99% of the population. It would be fantastic if everyone in here would be seeking the truth, not polarized, not induced by what other people think or wrote. Except, of course, if this is not the intention of this place. .
Over on the other site they have a "Flat Earth Believers" forum where only approved FEr's or FE 'supporters' are allowed to post. Coincidentally there's a discussion right now about using that area for more FE2FE discussions/debates. Which, in theory, it already is. However, it's not really being used in that manner I guess due to a low number of participants. I'm not sure how it would play out anyway. One example to look to is maybe Dubay's http://ifers.123.st/ site. Only FEr's are allowed to post. Participation as a whole seems to be spotty at best there.
What do you propose?
Does anyone want to comment about my observation on May 13 that the transmission lines seem to curve around a round earth? Any explanations, or did was this put in the too-hard-basket?
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za31.htm#page_177
The first line in the page that the above link points to states thatQuoteIT has been demonstrated that the earth is a plane, the surface-centre of which is immediately underneath the star called "Polaris,"
How exactly has this been demonstrated out of interest? That the Earth is a plane I mean.
Why L can't see the segment AC?I'm going to assume your math is correct because I'm lazy, and I see no reason to doubt you... All of those things should absolutely be visible on a flat Earth.
Why L can't see the segment AM?
Why L can't see beyond B?
The problem with that demonstration is that it fails to account for the path that the light from the moon takes before hitting the eye of the observer. Refraction is real and it has a very real effect on what we see. Since we don't live in a vacuum and the atmosphere as well as it's composition can have a very dramatic impact on what we see.
Even in the round earth model when you see the sun "rise" it's well below the horizon. When it comes to optics and refraction what you see is not reality. It's your visual cortex's best attempt at making an image out of a cloud of electrical signals.
As basic mechanics and optics, if the Sun moves East-->West faster than the Moon below, the projected shadow would always moves the opposite direction, no matter what, West-->East, this works like a lever with the Moon as the pivot, top goes to one direction, bottom goes to another.
It's more or less the same as any interest group - the term "Flat Earther" is too broad to capture a well-defined group.
The only way a sphere can 'morph' into a flat plane is if something caused it to rotate a lot faster. We know from observing the other planets that increased rotation also creates a polar flattening effect. Jupiter shows the greatest degree of flattening between the poles and not surprisingly it is also the fastest rotating planet.