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Messages - Yonah ben Amittai

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Hey, piza. I just wanted you to know that for once, I understand and even agree with the fairness of the ban. See you all next week, ok?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US election results
« on: November 14, 2014, 10:36:47 PM »
Except you believe the earth is flat. that makes you a fucktard. and you can't spell. so yes, you are a fucktard. I have to go. but have a good night being, as you always are, a fucktard.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US election results
« on: November 14, 2014, 10:28:09 PM »
And zetetic observation never got anyone anywhere, as we have proved in these fora I don't know how many times. Lets face it. You, and the other flat earthers here, are schmucks. Its fun to watch you implode though. And you make a good case for euthanasia of the retarded. Thork, you are truly the abortion that lived.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US election results
« on: November 14, 2014, 10:24:47 PM »
So, we have a Nazi on our hands. Great. Hello, Hitler. How are you today, fucktard?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US election results
« on: November 14, 2014, 10:21:14 PM »
Its definitely a part of yours. How else do you believe the earth is fucking flat?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US election results
« on: November 14, 2014, 09:53:26 PM »
THORK, I would encourage you to go and engage in coitus with your nearest female relative, thus continuing the inbred line from which which you so obviously derive your charming traits. Jackass.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 14, 2014, 07:46:42 PM »
now that I did not know. that is very helpful to know however. Thank you for that information. Wow! can you do it with other punctuation points? yes, it seems you can! ok, this could get very interesting! Thank you very much, you have been very helpful. do have a most excellent day.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 14, 2014, 06:11:53 PM »
no I can imagine that attempting to quote would be totally disastrous. as it is I have to put in the periods manually. but it is quicker than typing especially on a phone's keyboard. I hope the system gets better. it would be nice to be able to write research papers in this manner. I am using the method now. at present I'm having no difficulty with it. of course punctuation and capitalization are not perfect. I could correct it manually but it would take too long. so the periods at the end of each sentence are clear enough. it is faster even than typing on a computer. but no you can't quote directly from a person.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 14, 2014, 06:06:45 PM »
Oh, God no. I won't try to quote people when I am using my phone in that fashion! If I have to quote and I'm on my phone, I'll type it out the long and tedious way. And obviously, if I am on my computer, as I am now, then I shall type. But for simpler messages, the voice communication thing works pretty well, when you get the hang of it. Its just that you can't speak too quickly. Its rather funny to see what it does with words when you speak at a rapid pace!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 14, 2014, 05:27:50 PM »
please pardon the unusual text. I am using voice recognition to speak these words into the communication. the system is not perfect. it is therefore stream of consciousness. if you speak unclearly it doesn't always get it. I apologize. I am starting to figure it out better. please do be patient with me and it will get more clear. thank you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 14, 2014, 05:23:52 PM »
are you I'm fond of classical music but I tend to prefer the 16 hundreds. I am particularly fond of Henry Purcell. my particular favorite piece is King Arthur the semi-opera.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US election results
« on: November 14, 2014, 02:04:45 PM »
Well, there isn't any doubt of that. No Baron Rothschild here!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US election results
« on: November 14, 2014, 06:23:29 AM »
Well, welcome to Iowa. We just elected Joni Ernst as a Senator, a fucking Sarah Palinesque tea party whore with brains. Sarah Palin is a fucking idiot with the IQ of a five year old. Joni Ernst has all the same views as Palin, but is much more dangerous than Palin because she actually has brains, and if given too much lead time, will pound this State back into the fucking Stone Age.

The Rethugs basically swept every single office in the entire State. The Left got royally fucked, and no Vaseline was even offered along the way. It was quite horrid, really. All I can say is that, come two years from now, when the Rethugs have managed to fuck things up even more, as they always do, the people of this fucktarded state will have no one to blame but themselves. So, I shall just sit quietly for the next few years and read my Marx, Engels, and Lenin, and let things play out, and write, and watch the state fall apart, and then, when the time is write, strike whilst the iron is hot.

When that time comes, you'll see me on the front lines, organising, fighting the good fight, as a good Communist does.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 14, 2014, 06:10:28 AM »
Yes, I do.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 14, 2014, 12:27:53 AM »
Is anybody alive?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 10, 2014, 05:42:58 PM »
Heard a top quality Jew joke today and I thought I'd share.

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You know why Jewish men get circumcised?

Because Jewish women won't touch anything unless it's 20% off.
But then why do virtually all American men get circumcised too? Do they all want to tap some Jews?

America is controlled by Jews, c'mon.

ROTFLMFAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 10, 2014, 03:09:05 AM »
Actually, I don't care much at all. Israel was founded by a combination of secular socialists and religious Zionists. When the Declaration of Independence was written, they included the phrase "Rock of Israel" in it, which to the Zionists meant God, and to the socialists meant God knows what. In order to get the State founded, a lot of compromises had to be made. Shit happens. The Zionists gave up a lot, but so did the Socialists. It worked out in the end.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 09, 2014, 08:16:17 PM »
Why are Jews so rude?

In general, I have never noticed them to be per se. Some certainly are, but some are not. It really depends on the Jew. Those Jews who spend very little time around non-Jews simply don't know HOW to associate among them. They often appear rude when they are with Gentiles.

Jews who live among non-Jews generally know how to behave, so their conduct is generally perceived as appropriate. It can often be interesting when one stradles both worlds, the Orthodox and the Gentile. Among Jews of all types, from Orthodox to Reform, I can politely refuse to shake hands with women, and most of them comprehend it. Among Gentiles, I generally have to touch hands, at least briefly.

Using that as an example, a Jew who lives only with Jews, if he were to find himself with non-Jews, would not shake hands with a woman at all. The results would be that the non-Jewish woman, not understanding Jewish custom in this regard, would perceive the man to be personally rude, or, if this has happened with more than one Jew, then possibly all Jews as rude.

I find the experience of shaking hands with a woman quite distasteful. But in the interests of diffusing tension between Jew and non-Jew, it is worth it. But among Jews, I certainly do not.


Funny that only patriarchal societies think it appropriate that women be "purified" after menstruating. It almost is like a prescription made up by men who did not understand menstruating was natural and normal.

You will note that among men in extremely Orthodox communities, they must be purified after emission of semen the same way that women must after menstruation. The Torah has a great deal to say about that as well. So, no, Niddah has nothing to do with Patriarchalism.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 09, 2014, 05:30:22 PM »
Shaving the face as a military practice was around LONG before the militaries of WWI were thought of. The Romans were the first. In their battles with the Barbarian Germans, they found that one of the weaknesses of the Germans was that they could be grabbed by the beard and thrown, or pulled, or whatever. The Romans shaved to avoid the facial hair being used in that manner.

Certainly, the gas mask reinforced not growing a beard. But the militaries of Europe and the USA had been shaving their faces for years, or at least keeping the beard quite trim. In the Civil War, it depended on what part of the Army you were in, for example. Some parts of it were required to shave, and some were not.

It is true that many (perhaps most) employers will avoid hiring a person who is not dressed "appropriately" for an interview. "Appropriate", in the minds of many, means a suit and a clean shaven appearance.

There are usually exceptions made for religious garb, although one is still expected, insofar as one is able, to meet standard appearance guidelines. If I were going to look for work today, I would wear a suit and tie, and tuck three of my fringes into my pants, and one of them extended (the front right), in accordance with Ashkenazi Jewish law. And I would wear a Yarmulke that properly matched the appearance of my suit, and it would be of a dressy character. The mustache would be shaved, and the beard would be oiled and combed through properly.

Regarding the fringes, it is customary for Jews to have all four fringes extended. However, among the Ashkenaz, it is permitted to tuck three of them into one's pants, and to leave the front right extended. The Sephardi are required to leave all four extended. Fortunately, I am Ashkenazi.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: November 09, 2014, 03:36:15 PM »
That makes sense, but it is a bit weird of a view to hold today. It seems like the Jews need a thunderstorm to update their instruction manual.

Well, interesting point, but lets look at that. Remember that in our 4000 year history, up until the last two hundred years ago, Jews lived only with other Jews. This was for two reasons: 1, Gentile governments, both Christian and Muslim required it. 2, Jews eventually learned to prefer it.

With Emancipation (in the Christian World during the Enlightenment) and the parallel Haskalah (the Jewish Enlightenment), and freedom from the ghetto, Jews for the first time begin to live amongst other persons.

It was then that Moses Mendelsohn (grandfather of the composer Felix) translated the Torah into German, and, although he personally was Orthodox, did a lot of things that would lead to the eventual development of Reform Judaism in the next Century.

Whilst Jews lived amongst themselves, the social pressures exerted within the community kept certain things very low. For example, alcoholism among Jews was a very minor issue when Jews lived only with each other, because social pressure kept it that way. It was only when Jews started living with others that that changed. Now, if you compare Jews to non-Jews, it is only slightly less than the average.

Although the views that you perceive as "weird" today may seem a bit unusual, you will note that, among the shtetls that still exist (small towns that are still predominantly Jewish [85% or more]) the socialisation process is still very much like it was, with divorce rates very low, alcoholism also low, STDs very low, etc.

Among Jews who live with non-Jews, the rates of all these things (now mind you, I am speaking in both cases of religious Jews) tend to be only slightly below average. For Jews who are non-religious, these social indicators are equal to the general population.

When I refer to social pressure, most of the social pressure was and is Torah obligation. And if you were to recommend that the book be "updated", the first question that would be asked would be, "why?"

Remember that the idea of shaving one's face for other than being a eunuch came from the Romans. So, if non-Jews can follow an outdated Roman practice, why can't Jews follow their practice and grow beards?



Why is the Bible (and by extension, God) so sexist? As a followup question, since God is the most perfect being and he is sexist does this make sexism an admirable trait? Are you sexist enough to get into heaven?

Of course, one could argue that the Bible is not sexist at all, but that it merely suggests appropriate behaviour for men and for women. As per the previous notes above, where Jews live amongst themselves, all the social indicators seem to show that living according to Torah rule isn't a bad idea.

It could also be said (and is by liberal Jews) that social existence does indeed change and should, but that the eternal core values of the Torah do not. This argument has less to recommend it in my opinion.

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