[Tom Bishop]

There is a documentary about Convex Earth Theory that is coming out in 8 days. http://convexearth.org/

We should all take notice. Convex Earth Theory is another sister theory that came out of Samuel Birley Robotham's Earth Not a Globe studies in the mid 1800's. Rowbotham knew that there were other conclusions from his own that could stem from his experiments. Hence why the work is called "Earth Not a Globe," and not "The Earth is Flat," and why he named his original investigative society "The Zetetic Society" rather than anything Flat Earth specific. Sister organizations will often reference Rowbotham's experiments in support of their own theories.

In Earth Not a Globe the main point and moral is that the Globe Earth model is demonstrably false, moreso than a discovery of what the truth may actually be.

[Tumeni]

... and, if you go to the website for those issuing the documentary, there is NOTHING to say who they are, nor what their qualifications are .... unusual for a bunch of scientists, wouldn't you say?

[Tom Bishop]

... and, if you go to the website for those issuing the documentary, there is NOTHING to say who they are, nor what their qualifications are .... unusual for a bunch of scientists, wouldn't you say?

The second sentence of that YouTube video literally says who they are. They claim to be researchers from the Zigurats - CTZ Technological Center.

There is also more information on their site in the About Us section:

http://convexearth.org/

About Us

Dakila Research and Technology Center Zigurats

The Convex Earth research is being conducted in a partnership between the CTZ - Zigurats Technology Center and Dakila Research.

The Zigurats Technology Center is a research complex comprising a Data Processing and Analysis Center, an Astronomical Observatory and a Technological Research Laboratory. CTZ has its headquarters in the citty of Corguinho-MS and operates in the areas of Astronomy, Quantum Physics and technological innovations.

Dakila Pesquisas is a research association that works in several areas of knowledge, especially the sectors of Quantum Physics based on Laryngeal Science, Engineering and Technologies that participated in the research stages.

It was seven years of intensive research with the support of many specialized professionals such as cartographers, astronomers, engineers, geographers and other experts in other areas who together contributed to the finalization of Terra Convexa research.

In March the result of this work will be available to the entire scientific community and to all interested parties.

Contact Us

     Contact Us
    + 55 11 3459-9945
    facebook.com/TerraConvexa
    contato@terraconvexa.com.br
    terraconvexa.com.br
    youtube.com/c/terraconvexa

[Frocious]

... and, if you go to the website for those issuing the documentary, there is NOTHING to say who they are, nor what their qualifications are .... unusual for a bunch of scientists, wouldn't you say?

The second sentence of that YouTube video literally says who they are. They claim to be researchers from the Zigurats - CTZ Technological Center.

There is also more information on their site in the About Us section:

http://convexearth.org/

About Us

Dakila Research and Technology Center Zigurats

The Convex Earth research is being conducted in a partnership between the CTZ - Zigurats Technology Center and Dakila Research.

The Zigurats Technology Center is a research complex comprising a Data Processing and Analysis Center, an Astronomical Observatory and a Technological Research Laboratory. CTZ has its headquarters in the citty of Corguinho-MS and operates in the areas of Astronomy, Quantum Physics and technological innovations.

Dakila Pesquisas is a research association that works in several areas of knowledge, especially the sectors of Quantum Physics based on Laryngeal Science, Engineering and Technologies that participated in the research stages.

It was seven years of intensive research with the support of many specialized professionals such as cartographers, astronomers, engineers, geographers and other experts in other areas who together contributed to the finalization of Terra Convexa research.

In March the result of this work will be available to the entire scientific community and to all interested parties.

Contact Us

     Contact Us
    + 55 11 3459-9945
    facebook.com/TerraConvexa
    contato@terraconvexa.com.br
    terraconvexa.com.br
    youtube.com/c/terraconvexa

Interesting that there is absolutely no information online regarding this research organization outside of their own website. I wonder what observatory they are using?

[Tom Bishop]

A link with some more information about this documentary:

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/scientists-at-dakila-pesquisas-release-documentary-proving-that-the-earth-is-not-round-300598977.html

SAO PAULO, Feb. 19, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- Inquiries concerning the shape of the Earth have been a recurring theme in human history. Based on a series of natural phenomena that contradict accepted academic teaching on the matter, Brazilian scientists at Dakila Pesquisas decided to investigate these inconsistencies. In seven years of studies, scientific experiments were conducted at different points in the world, with the involvement of government institutions and professional researchers from a variety of fields. The results will be presented in the feature-length Convex Earth: The Documentary. The preview, by invitation, will take place on March 26, at 7:30 pm, at the Shopping Eldorado in São Paulo (SP). Three days later, the documentary will be released at convexearth.org, in Portuguese, English and Spanish.

According to Urandir Fernandes de Oliveira, founder of Dakila Pesquisas, the thesis that the Earth is round has been refuted by seven experiments: a geodesic experiment, which consists of measuring two buildings at a considerable distance; using sea level as a reference; a laser experiment to ascertain the flatness of water surfaces; leveling of water surfaces; optical distortions relating to processes of reflection; an experiment with boats on the horizon line; and experiments involving gravity and heavenly bodies.

In order to carry out the geodesic experiment, the base and the top of two buildings were measured, one in Torres, Rio Grande do Sul, and the other in Natal, Rio Grande do Norte. Engineers at the National Institute of Land Settlement and Agrarian Reform (INCRA - Instituto Nacional de Colonização e Reforma Agrária) took part in these activities. A long-range laser was used to measure the flatness of the waters at the Três Marias Dam in Minas Gerais; at the Lagoa dos Patos, in Rio Grande do Sul; at Lake Titicaca in Peru; and on the seas around the island of Ilhabela in the state of São Paulo, and at the Straits of Gibraltar the sea passage separating Europe from Africa. In this way, the theory of gravity has been challenged by two essential natural measures: the plumb line and the level.

All the experiments had the participation of astronomers, cartographers, geologists, topographers and civil engineers, among other professional researchers. Cutting edge equipment was used. After the release of the documentary, Dakila Pesquisas will make available all of the methodology and technology used so that those interested can verify the results.

"In addition to addressing the shape of the Earth, the documentary will reveal the discovery of a new continent sealed off by a great wall of ice. New knowledge will also be demonstrated concerning the Sun, the Moon and the constellations," Urandir Fernandes de Oliveira disclosed.

Following the documentary, the book Convex Earth will be released, including all the scientific findings and a new map of the world.

Founded in 1997, in Corguinho, Mato Grosso do Sul, Dakila Pesquisas is comprised of researchers and scientists from diverse fields of knowledge, mainly the exact and natural sciences.

Information: Camila Cortez (+55 61 4141-7045) camila@supremaintegrada.com.br

SOURCE www.terraconvexa.com.br / www.dakila.com.br

[Frocious]

A link with some more information about this documentary:

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/scientists-at-dakila-pesquisas-release-documentary-proving-that-the-earth-is-not-round-300598977.html

SAO PAULO, Feb. 19, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- Inquiries concerning the shape of the Earth have been a recurring theme in human history. Based on a series of natural phenomena that contradict accepted academic teaching on the matter, Brazilian scientists at Dakila Pesquisas decided to investigate these inconsistencies. In seven years of studies, scientific experiments were conducted at different points in the world, with the involvement of government institutions and professional researchers from a variety of fields. The results will be presented in the feature-length Convex Earth: The Documentary. The preview, by invitation, will take place on March 26, at 7:30 pm, at the Shopping Eldorado in São Paulo (SP). Three days later, the documentary will be released at convexearth.org, in Portuguese, English and Spanish.

According to Urandir Fernandes de Oliveira, founder of Dakila Pesquisas, the thesis that the Earth is round has been refuted by seven experiments: a geodesic experiment, which consists of measuring two buildings at a considerable distance; using sea level as a reference; a laser experiment to ascertain the flatness of water surfaces; leveling of water surfaces; optical distortions relating to processes of reflection; an experiment with boats on the horizon line; and experiments involving gravity and heavenly bodies.

In order to carry out the geodesic experiment, the base and the top of two buildings were measured, one in Torres, Rio Grande do Sul, and the other in Natal, Rio Grande do Norte. Engineers at the National Institute of Land Settlement and Agrarian Reform (INCRA - Instituto Nacional de Colonização e Reforma Agrária) took part in these activities. A long-range laser was used to measure the flatness of the waters at the Três Marias Dam in Minas Gerais; at the Lagoa dos Patos, in Rio Grande do Sul; at Lake Titicaca in Peru; and on the seas around the island of Ilhabela in the state of São Paulo, and at the Straits of Gibraltar the sea passage separating Europe from Africa. In this way, the theory of gravity has been challenged by two essential natural measures: the plumb line and the level.

All the experiments had the participation of astronomers, cartographers, geologists, topographers and civil engineers, among other professional researchers. Cutting edge equipment was used. After the release of the documentary, Dakila Pesquisas will make available all of the methodology and technology used so that those interested can verify the results.

"In addition to addressing the shape of the Earth, the documentary will reveal the discovery of a new continent sealed off by a great wall of ice. New knowledge will also be demonstrated concerning the Sun, the Moon and the constellations," Urandir Fernandes de Oliveira disclosed.

Following the documentary, the book Convex Earth will be released, including all the scientific findings and a new map of the world.

Founded in 1997, in Corguinho, Mato Grosso do Sul, Dakila Pesquisas is comprised of researchers and scientists from diverse fields of knowledge, mainly the exact and natural sciences.

Information: Camila Cortez (+55 61 4141-7045) camila@supremaintegrada.com.br

SOURCE www.terraconvexa.com.br / www.dakila.com.br

Looking forward to seeing their methodologies as well as having them peer reviewed. Why did you have to post this so soon? Now we have to wait...

[Tom Bishop]

On second look, I now think that this is likely a Flat Earth Documentary, rather than one of the "the earth is slightly convex/concave" theories. The title is "Convex Earth" but that could just mean that they are challenging the concept of a Convex Earth.

We will have to see what they conclude and what their theory actually is.

[Scroogie]

Well, this ought to be entertaining, if nothing else. I now wait with bated breath.

EDIT: And in response to Tom's post, typed while I was typing, I agree. I does look like another flat earth presentation.

The bit about the newly discovered continent ought to be especially entertaining...

In fact, I believe I'll go out on a limb here and predict that the B.S. meter is about to be pegged.

[StinkyOne]

Thousands of years of science overturned after 7 years of hardcore research! They must be real smart and stuff. I wonder if they actually bothered to actually, you know, go visit that new continent?

I'm calling fake on their picture of that toilet shaped Earth. You could tell it was CGI.

Humans are getting dumber, I can feel it.

[StinkyOne]

Their other video is fantastic. He tries to claim that the Earth can't be tilted because you can't tilt a sphere... And this is what is wrong with the world, very basic scientific facts are so poorly taught that a grown man doesn't understand what the tilt of the Earth actually means.

Tom, hope you aren't putting any faith in these guys. lulz...

[Edgar Alan Hoe]

There is a documentary about Convex Earth Theory that is coming out in 8 days. http://convexearth.org/

We should all take notice. Convex Earth Theory is another sister theory that came out of Samuel Birley Robotham's Earth Not a Globe studies in the mid 1800's. Rowbotham knew that there were other conclusions from his own that could stem from his experiments. Hence why the work is called "Earth Not a Globe," and not "The Earth is Flat," and why he named his original investigative society "The Zetetic Society" rather than anything Flat Earth specific. Sister organizations will often reference Rowbotham's experiments in support of their own theories.

In Earth Not a Globe the main point and moral is that the Globe Earth model is demonstrably false, moreso than a discovery of what the truth may actually be.

Hold on, aren't these the guys that claim to have an alien teleportation device?

http://www.felipecastelobranco.com.br/videos/real-teleportation-tecnology-at-dakila-research-brazil/

Oh my, is this really the point FE has reached?

 

[Edgar Alan Hoe]

I'm looking forward to them using their alien teleportation device to zap themselves over to the edge of the earth and prove once and for all that the world is flat.

Hang on though... Can an alien teleportation device exist in a flat earth universe?

I don't know, this is all getting very confusing.

[Tumeni]

The second sentence of that YouTube video literally says who they are. They claim to be researchers from the Zigurats - CTZ Technological Center.

There is also more information on their site in the About Us section:

No names. Who are they?
No qualifications. Where did they study? What qualifications did they gain? What work have they done in the past?

Yes, we know WHERE they are, and what their establishment is called, but that's about it.....

[Tumeni]

Thousands of years of science overturned after 7 years of hardcore research! They must be real smart and stuff.

To set that in context, I'm reminded of a a BBC documentary I saw last year, which unfortunately seems not to be available online, so I'll need to fill in the detail for you - it features a group of British astronomers, astrophysicists, and the like, following their road trip as they visit the places where they worked after leaving university 50 years ago.

Britain's Star Men: Heroes of Astronomy
 
From the BBC website;

"Four British astronomers celebrate 50 years of work and friendship by going on a road trip to revisit some of the world's greatest observatories. In California, a world leader in observational astronomy at a time when America's space programme was at its height, the astronomers spent their formative years developing friendships that would last a lifetime, and making scientific discoveries that would change the course of history.

Together they represent the most productive period astronomy has ever had. Their journey through the southwestern United States allows them to see once again the places and landscape they explored as young men. Now in their 70s, they share their reflections on a life spent looking at the universe.

Star Men celebrates the history of stargazing: the inventions and discoveries that have enabled us to learn so much about the universe, but more importantly to understand how much more we have yet to discover."


At the time the documentary was made;

One was/is Emeritus Professor of Observational Astronomy at Cambridge
Another -  Emeritus Professor of Astrophysics, also at Cambridge
Another -  Emeritus Professor of Astronomy, University of Arizona
Last - Ira S. Bowen Professor of Astrophysics, California Institute of Technology   

Between them, they have over 200 years of experience in their fields

At one point, they're on the balcony of an observatory in the USA, and one relates the story of how, one day, he was out there looking at the weather, judging how it would be for the evening's observations, and a group of tourists below yelled up to him "How did you get up there?".

His reply? 


                           "I worked bloody hard for 15 years"

[StinkyOne]

Tom, now that it has been shown that these folks can't figure out a spinning sphere and claim to have an alien transport device, do you still think they have anything factual to offer?

[Tom Bishop]

Tom, now that it has been shown that these folks can't figure out a spinning sphere and claim to have an alien transport device, do you still think they have anything factual to offer?

I don't find a problem with his argument that we should be able to experience the earth spinning.  The famous astronomers Tycho Brahe and Giovanni Riccioli also believed that we should be able to experience and detect the spinning earth.

Tycho performed numerous experiments designed to detect the rotation of the earth,  which seemed to suggest that the earth was not rotating.

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1012/1012.3642.pdf

VIII. Tycho also argues that if the cannon experiment were performed at the
poles of the Earth, where the ground speed produced by the diurnal motion is
diminished, then the result of the experiment would be the same regardless of
toward which part of the horizon the cannon was fired. However, if the experiment
were performed near the equator, where the ground speed is greatest, the result
would be different when the ball is hurled East or West, than when hurled North or
South.

The form of the argument is thus: If Earth is moved with diurnal motion, a ball fired
from a cannon in a consistent manner would pass through a different trajectory when hurled
near the poles or toward the poles, than when hurled along the parallels nearer to the Equator,
or when hurled into the South or North. But this is contrary to experience. Therefore, Earth is
not moved by diurnal motion.

If Tycho is to be believed, experiments have shown this to be correct. Moreover,
if a ball is fired along a Meridian toward the pole (rather than toward the East or
West), diurnal motion will cause the ball to be carried off [i.e. the trajectory of the
ball is deflected], all things being equal: for on parallels nearer the poles, the ground
moves more slowly, whereas on parallels nearer the equator, the ground moves more
rapidly.7

The Copernican response to this argument is to deny it, or to concede it but claim
that the differences in trajectory fall below our ability to measure. But in fact the
argument is strong, and this response is not.

Riccioli concludes in the pdf with:

None of the above examples of what should happen if the Earth moves are in
accord with what we see. Therefore, the Earth does not move with diurnal, much less
annual, motion.

[Tom Bishop]

As per the discovery about an "alien transport device," I see no such claim. You linked me to a random 6 second video that has the words "Seek Knowledge" around a picture of Albert Einstein.

The title of the video is "Real teleportation Tecnology at Dakila Research – Brazil". There is no reference to aliens. I don't know who made the video or why, and its 6 second length has nothing to do with teleportation, but the Dakila website claims that they research and experiment with quantum effects, so I can only assume that the title is referring to the particle teleportation effects that is known to exist under Quantum Theory, rather than your asserted alien technology.

[Tumeni]

Why do you cite experiments and conclusions from the 1600s, which by their very era and nature did not have access to the tools and techniques we have today, and which been comprehensively disproved by more recent events?

 

[Tom Bishop]

Why do you cite experiments and conclusions from the 1600s, which by their very era and nature did not have access to the tools and techniques we have today, and which been comprehensively disproved by more recent events?

Why not quote them? They were very educated and accomplished astronomers. Did they not have access to measuring methods to see that cannon ball was not significantly deflected as the math predicted? The ball should have been deflected by many yards. Its not like this is measuring atoms.

[StinkyOne]

I don't find a problem with his argument that we should be able to experience the earth spinning.  The famous astronomers Tycho Bachi and Ricioli also believed that we should be able to experience and detect the spinning earth.

In what way would you experience the Earth spinning? There is more than enough evidence that it is spinning, but what do you think you as a person would experience?